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Message started by TM30 on 17.11.05 at 18:24:54

Title: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 17.11.05 at 18:24:54
strange RAM layout... BUT has CE Marking... notice on the backside that "EIDOS..." writing? Probably a Engineering Sample for the game developer EIDOS?





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this time no CE Marking, notice the stamps on it ?!







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looks like one of a million Orchid Board,has CE Marking, but also look at that strange "EIDOS" writings on the back and the stamps...







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no Voodoo this time, but no CE this time, and on the PCB is written "Rendition Reference Design 3" and some stamps are on the back...




Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by NitroX infinity on 17.11.05 at 19:48:50
Wasn't Eidos the company that made Tomb Raider? The first Glide game? They would have needed Voodoo cards for that :P

First card is either a 12MB V2 with 1MB chips or a 6MB V2 prototype.

Second card is a Q3D Obsidian 50-2200


Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 17.11.05 at 19:51:30
Eidos was the Publisher of  Tomb Raider... CORE was the developer I think

perhaps they also used that Rendition V1000? But its not marked with EIDOS... but i think they also supported that Rendition Cards in Tomb Raider...

and what does that "QA" stand for after the EIDOS writing?

quarter perhaps? Like headquarter?

edit: got it! it's "EIDOS Quality Assurance"
found it with google: http://www.eidosinteractive.co.uk/corporate/inside_qa.html

so 3dfx sent those cards to EIDOS... to test theier games with the newest VGA cards...

holy crap, i am damn happy :)

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and that first Voodoo2 has 8MB, at least it's written on the backside...

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by Thandor on 17.11.05 at 20:04:12
About the Voodoo II :
256x16 = 4096Kb
12 of those 4096Kb chips will result in 49152Kb total which is 6144Kb (6MB)

Congratulations with finding the fourth Voodoo II 6MB Prototype  :)
(Got one, too)

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 17.11.05 at 20:10:05
only 4 cards?

wow... who also has got one? gary of course ;) , and who ?

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by Chosen_One on 17.11.05 at 20:34:35
you have two
thandor one
gary one (as you said)

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 17.11.05 at 21:13:27
hmm Gary Has 2 TM30 has 1 and Thandor has 1 also indeed, but if TM30 has 2 then there are 5 ;) not that rare,normally a batch consist out of 10 cards so there are more I sense.

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 17.11.05 at 21:39:39
i "only" have one, but i am damn happy to own it...

...perhaps you mean my 4MB "Voodoo Graphics 2", only one own it... at least currently ;)

and 4 cards worldwide is rare, in fact there are rare cards which pop up more often....

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 17.11.05 at 22:11:35
hmm yeah that 4MB card is infact a wierd one, rather funny what happened to the other 9 or 19.... 3dfx would never make 1 card, when prototypes are made they mostly make1 or 2 batches of them and a batch consists of 10 cards. maybe that the other 9 or 19 were lost or destroyed.

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by www.yjfy.com on 18.11.05 at 02:18:55



It is Engineering Samples,because CHIPSET is 500-0006-XX and 500-0007-XX

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 18.11.05 at 09:47:26
so no prototype? or is it the same  ;)

because the chips and PCB are  from 1997, but voodoo 2 came out officially in 1998

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 18.11.05 at 13:32:47
As for that 4 Meg Obsidian card it still gives an older date than 1997 look carefully:



2896 means
week 28 year 1996!

So then again it may be a Prototype from 3Dfx before the time of Quantum3D it's self and that card has 4 MB like the Orchid has.

So the Obsidian maybe a prototype from 3Dfx instead of Quantum3D since that Quantum3D started in 1997 and week 28 year 1996 is alot older so therefore the card can't be from Quantum3D but originated from 3Dfx and mayby Quantum3D bought that card and sold it as a production card or used that as a base prototype.


Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by ALT-F13 on 18.11.05 at 18:47:50
Wow nice find TM30! congrats!

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 18.11.05 at 20:38:27
Obi,

but when its from 3dfx, why does it have a black PCB? 3dfx always used the green one...

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by Thandor on 18.11.05 at 21:11:07
Always green PCB's ?
What about this Banshee pré production sample ?  ::)
And also this Voodoo 3 PCI Prototype  :P

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 18.11.05 at 22:36:32
okay okay,

... but they never used black pcb :P

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 18.11.05 at 23:38:23
gary,
why does the first card, that voodoo 2 6MB has a CE marking??? does your card also have CE ?

i think this is uncommon for a prototype... or is it an engieering sample? cause its intended for EIDOS game testing (this is confirmed!)

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by gdonovan on 19.11.05 at 12:28:52

wrote on 18.11.05 at 22:36:32:
... but they never used black pcb :P


3dfx? Actually aside from the Obsidian boards there was a run of preproduction voodoo 3 that have black pcb.

Yes the 6MB cards I have also have CE on the back.

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 19.11.05 at 14:12:58
strange! why CE on a prototype?

perhaps because theese cards were given out, like mine, to Eidos QA ?!

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by gdonovan on 19.11.05 at 15:02:16

wrote on 19.11.05 at 14:12:58:
strange! why CE on a prototype?


They were slated for production by a major company, maybe 3dfx thought they would just try and get ahead and the gamble didn't pay off.

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by edmundoab on 03.12.05 at 19:49:35
QA my guess = quality assurance?

since now I am in the OQA department which stands for
Outgoing Quality Assurance

:P

Title: Re: Engineering Samples? [56K Warning]
Post by TM30 on 03.12.05 at 21:54:05

wrote on 17.11.05 at 19:51:30:
edit: got it! it's "EIDOS Quality Assurance"
found it with google: http://www.eidosinteractive.co.uk/corporate/inside_qa.html

so 3dfx sent those cards to EIDOS... to test theier games with the newest VGA cards...

holy crap, i am damn happy :)

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and that first Voodoo2 has 8MB, at least it's written on the backside...



;D

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