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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #120 - 29.06.04 at 12:53:33

According to this list VSA200 would mean Rampage,
although Rampage was not based on Voodoo-Tech, but thats another story...
I am pretty sure the V4-4200 is a daytona card, maybe made just for OEM with reduced amount of memory...
Interesting to hear that vykupitels card is also working with the 1.07.00 drivers, you should give them a try Flaconfly...

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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #121 - 29.06.04 at 14:42:54

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Now that we KNOW the cards are genuine, it would be a crying shame if the reason for the auction being "ended" early was that the seller TOTALLED a card just to take a picture of the GPU!!! Cry

I know I e-mailed him and made it clear I had zero interest in a card where the heatsink was pried off, was being sold as-is and might go for a good lump of money.

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FalconFly YaBB Administrator Offline 3dfx Archivist Posts: 2445 5335N 00745E Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #122 - 29.06.04 at 21:30:06 Hm, I'll try both the V1.07.00 and 1.07.00b Drivers, and might even give the Rampage Driver a shot. Let's see what works, but from the .inf Files I see only a low chance.
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vykupitel YaBB Newbies Offline Respect for Hank Posts: 22	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #123 - 30.06.04 at 08:22:53 The numbers on the chip are exactly the same like on my Daytona! the problem with the drivers is in the setting of DramInit in the drivers. Only 1.07 drivers doesn't se it to 0 which means SDR RAM and test the card. 1.07 drivers are Daytona compatible!
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FalconFly YaBB Administrator Offline 3dfx Archivist Posts: 2445 5335N 00745E Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #124 - 01.07.04 at 01:08:37 Okidok, here are Images from the Card : HiRes Images (1600x1200) Front Back Further Driver testing I'll have to do tomorrow or Friday (had no time for it today )
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Rolo01 Full Member Offline Posts: 191	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #125 - 01.07.04 at 09:57:38 @ Patience I guess he means x3dfx drivers 1.07.00b based on the core from Feb 2001. NuAngel5 drivers should be okay also, but I have not tested these with my daytona... BTW, great pictures...
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #126 - 02.07.04 at 21:05:24 Quote: So 2 Cards are selling... And this is the fourth now. Like I said, he is a buyer of wholesale lots of computers- He could have as little as 10 cards to as many as a few thousand.
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hutzeputz Junior Member Offline 3dfx never Dies Posts: 52 Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #127 - 04.07.04 at 16:39:56 I thank you osckhar for it which it me still over did not offer nevertheless have! My money reserves would have been nevertheless fast reached! I wish you much luck with your voodoo4. and I hope for everyone sufficient Cards am there!
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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #128 - 04.07.04 at 17:58:20

Ha!
Victory at last : The card works Cheesy

It took quite some troubleshooting and workarounds to get it to operate, however...

- Driver : AmigaMerlin Win9x V2.9
- Manual Installation via Device Manager only
- Inf Selected : Amigamerlin 2.9 for V4-5

Upon Reboot, the typical Error Message "Incorrect Display Settings" appears...

- Select 256 Colors as Color Depth only
- then allow for immediate Restart (not reboot)

> System fires up in 640x480, 8bit (256 Colors)
- now change Display setting according own Preference

Note :
The Error Message "Incorrect Display settings" appears at every Reboot, and the entire Procedure must be repeated, so avoid Rebooting at all costs.
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So far, I've run quick test with 3D Mark 2001SE and Aquamark V2.1, all seems to work fine once one has the Card up&running.

3dfx Tools shows all Options, including the LCD Support Tab

The 3dfx Info Tab shows VSA-100 clocked at 143MHz, however...
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I think I could test the found workaround on other Drivers as well (I reckon any VSA-100 Driver should work now), although the AmigaMerlin 2.9 is already an excellent Driver.

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Okidok, the Workaround is good for any VSA-100 Driver.

I found out 2xFSAA causes Severe errors on the Card (Windows Bluescreens or the machine even Resets spontaneously) after a short period into Rendering/Benchmarking... But for as long as it runs, the FSAA is flawless.

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paulpsomiadis God Member Offline -=3Dfx still rox!=- Posts: 2011 Newcastle U.K. Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #129 - 04.07.04 at 20:12:11 Kudos @Falcon, glad you finally got this RARE card to work! 8) Now if someone can just hack the drivers to remove the error that occurs on reboot...
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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #130 - 04.07.04 at 22:46:50

Okidok, one Benchmark I was able to complete :

Aquamark Benchmark settings : 8MB Textures

It's quite interesting to see that the Card hardly takes a hit from 32bit Rendering, which we know puts a normal Voodoo4 quickly onto its Fillrate Limit.

Unfortunately, the other Fillrate killer (2x FSAA) I can't really use on it, but I'll try other Multitexturing Benches in the next days.

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Don't be too disappointed by the fairly low numbers, Aquamark V2.1 does take its toll on 3dfx Cards with upto 182000 Polygons per Scene.

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FalconFly YaBB Administrator Offline 3dfx Archivist Posts: 2445 5335N 00745E Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #131 - 04.07.04 at 23:16:49 As of now I don't know. Since Aquamark is posing other Bottlenecks on the Card, I can't be sure for now. I'll try to get other, more Fillrate limiting Tests to run. --- edit --- Alright last Bench for today : Now that looks like what I've seen from normal Voodoo4's, so I'd say the DDR-SDRAM doesn't help the Card's Fillrate.
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Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200?
Reply #132 - 05.07.04 at 01:05:04

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I thank you osckhar for it which it me still over did not offer nevertheless have!

My money reserves would have been nevertheless fast reached!

Ahhhh, You are bewegung123... CONGRATULATIONS! Not problem, When I gone to bid again... I saw other sample!

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I wish you much luck with your voodoo4. and I hope for everyone sufficient Cards am there!

Thanks, I will need it!

@FalconFly,
Does The card runs bus 64bits or 128bits? Is very important to know it! Wink

Regards,
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FalconFly YaBB Administrator Offline 3dfx Archivist Posts: 2445 5335N 00745E Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #133 - 05.07.04 at 01:22:24 ugh Now how would I find that out ? After all, it's not a widespread Card, so I can't trust any Utilities really.
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DenisF Senior Member Offline So fluffy it hurts Posts: 409 Israel Gender:	Re: IBM Voodoo 4 4200? Reply #134 - 05.07.04 at 01:57:06 Daytonas have 64bit DDR-SDRAM, which is essentialy the same as 128bit SDRAM [performance-wise]
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