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Obi-Wan_Kenobi Ex Member	Re: Napalm & Daytona Reply #30 - 05.03.05 at 02:33:00 then my question is, why did 3dfx put those names in the biosses at the first place, they didn't just put it the for the joke, cause that's kinda hard to believe even if they did do that..... wierd stuff my friends.
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Reply #31 - 05.03.05 at 02:40:10

Please read-

http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=techtalk;action=displ...

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See I stated unmodified because I have the suspicion that some of the prototype cards floating around have the wrong bios, or the wrongly labeled bios.

IE- They were using a bios that worked and changing the ID was the least of their concerns.

You have to remember- The cards were trying to figure out the "correct" names were all prototypes. Final names to some degree is handled by the marketing types, the guys working on the boards in the labs are just trying to get them running somewhat stable and "naming" them would be a far concern for techs.

I do see the boards tagged with PCB numbers and bios files referenced by PCB number, I bet the lab guys referred to them that way too.

Example- Hank how are you making out with the 0391 Napalm board?

(That would be a V5-6000 3700 to us laymen)

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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Napalm & Daytona Reply #32 - 05.03.05 at 10:22:30 So if we look at the memory, all Daytona cards (except IBM's) have 32MB, that would make them 4500's. Would the 64bit memorybus factor into that somehow? Perhaps make them 4400's? Also, I'm pretty sure all 3dfx Daytona's have 32MB memory. How else are you gonna test 32bit rendering?
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: Napalm & Daytona Reply #33 - 05.03.05 at 13:46:00 Quote: So if we look at the memory, all Daytona cards (except IBM's) have 32MB, that would make them 4500's. I don't think so- The IBM card is called something different then a 16MB VSA-100. 3dfx would not reuse a name due to confusion factor. 32MB of ram isn't required for 32 bit rendering.
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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Napalm & Daytona Reply #34 - 05.03.05 at 14:13:33 Quote: 32MB of ram isn't required for 32 bit rendering. Mind telling me then, why the V3 can't render 32bit in 3D?
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Reply #35 - 05.03.05 at 14:40:51

It's a shortcoming of the design- just like Voodoo Graphics, Voodoo Rush, Voodoo II and Banshee can't render 3D in 32 bit either.

Voodoo 3 can't render 3D in 32 bit and can't access more then 16MB of ram. Even if it could access more then 16MB of ram it's overkill since the memory will never be used due to the limit of 16 bit 3D rendering and maximum screen resolution size.

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Reply #36 - 25.03.05 at 15:28:09

Seven (7) cards still go unconfirmed. Please help out here

Blue

= Confirmed

Purple

= Confirmed, missing/uncertain specifications

Green

= Uncertain, could or could not exist
* = see note about this card

Napalm:
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3dfx Voodoo 4 4000 VSA-100 AGP ??MHz 16MB SDR

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3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 VSA-100 PCI 166MHz 32MB SDR

3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 VSA-100 PCI 166MHz 32MB SDR DVI

3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 VSA-100 PCI 166MHz 32MB SDR DVI/TV out

3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 VSA-100 PCI 166MHz 32MB SDR DVI (Mac)

3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 VSA-100 AGP 166MHz 32MB SDR

3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 VSA-100 AGP 166MHz 32MB SDR L-Card

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Boots as; V4 4800

)
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3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 VSA-100 AGP 166MHz 32MB SDR DVI/TV out

3dfx Voodoo 4 4800 VSA-100 AGP 166MHz 64MB SDR

* Card exists but which core it has is argued about.
I believe it has a VSA-100 core since it's on a photograph with VSA-100 only cards. See here.

Daytona:
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IBM Voodoo 4-2 4200 VSA-101 PCI 143MHz 16MB DDR DVI

3dfx Voodoo 4-2 4?00 VSA-101 PCI 143MHz 32MB DDR DVI

3dfx Voodoo 4-2 4?00 VSA-101 AGP 143MHz 32MB DDR TV out

3dfx Voodoo 4-2 4?00 VSA-101 AGP 143MHz 32MB DDR DVI/TV out

* Questioning this card's existence.
There are two Napalm versions (AGP/PCI) which have DVI & TV out.
Might have confused the AGP version for this one?

Unknown:
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3dfx Voodoo 4 4?00 VSA-100 AGP ??MHz ??MB SDR DVI

3dfx Voodoo 4-2 4?00 VSA-101 PCI 143MHz ??MB DDR TV out

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3dfx Voodoo 4-2 4?00 VSA-101 AGP 143MHz ??MB DDR DVI

* Thinking out loud; are there PCI TV out and AGP DVI Daytona's?

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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: Napalm & Daytona Reply #37 - 25.03.05 at 17:09:39 Quote: - 3dfx Voodoo 4 4000 VSA-100 AGP ??MHz 16MB SDR * Working on this, no luck yet. Quote: Unknown: - 3dfx Voodoo 4 4?00 VSA-100 AGP ??MHz ??MB SDR DVI 3dfx documents mention a V4-4400 running at 143 mhz.
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