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The S3 SAVAGE 2000 & The Latest S3 Designs (Read 872 times)
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #15 - 12.10.05 at 23:22:13
 
@Obi_wan - could you let me know Wink: -

1. What brand Savage 2000 board you are using? ???
2. What BIOS version does it have? ???
3. What is the set-up of your machine? (O.S., RAM, Mainboard brand [chipset, etc...], HDD, sound, other cards)  ???

Hmm so the Diamond Viper II v1.09 drivers work...cant seem to Google them though? ???

I own an Innovision Savage 2000 64MB and EVERY driver I tried just got 'stuck' at a black screen before Win 98 boots!!! Cry

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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #16 - 13.10.05 at 12:56:13
 
I've got the Diamond Viper II Z200 AGP x4 32MB Rev.A 0200 week 02 year 2000 Jumper version.

My Viper II's bios: 1.06C

my old system setup:

Grandinko 1200:

AMD K7 Athlon Thunderbird B 1200Mhz 200Mhz FSB, 256KB L2, S462 
ABiT KT7 Raid Rev 1.1 VIA Apollo KT133 
2x Nanja 128MB PC-133 & 1x 256MB Nanja 256MB PC-133
Diamond Viper II Z200 AGP x4 32MB Rev.A 0200
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live! Surround 1024 4.1
1x Maxtor Diamond Max9+ 30GB 7200rpm 2MB cache
Intel Pro 100 Server Desktop Adapter 10/100Mbit Fast Ethernet card  + WOL capabillity


Jumper version refers to, that you you need the Jumpers to enable & disable AGP x2/x4 modes Wink

Jumpers on all 3 jumper locations  enables AGP x4 & Jumpers removed from all 3 jumper locations Disables AGP x4 setting to AGP x2 setting.

here is where i found the correct S3TL drivers:
http://www.dansdata.com/viper2.htm
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #17 - 13.10.05 at 17:47:20
 
Seems the links from Dan's site to the drivers are down! Cry
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #18 - 13.10.05 at 17:51:30
 
hmm yeah, I'll try and search my room for those drivers, I do have them on CD-Rom somewhere, I remembered that I backed them up on CD-R Smiley

When I have found them I will mail them to you imedietly
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #19 - 14.10.05 at 18:49:17
 
Thanx - I sent you a P.M. with my address... Wink

...by the way, does anyone know where I can get a S3FLASH version that supports the Savage 2000? ???

Or failing that, a similar GFX BIOS backup proggy that does the same? ???
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #20 - 14.10.05 at 19:59:35
 
hmm I dunno about that, it should exsist though.

this wierd site has lots of drivers and stuff for all S3 chipsets including the Savage 4 & Savage 2000 series
http://www.s3g.net/

oei here the latest Diamond Viper II Z200 bios Paul!!!

: Bios - Diamond Multimedia Viper II v3.1c.09
http://s3g.dyndns.org/bbs/zboard.php?id=bios&no=65

Maybe Frank.Bao or Edmundoab could help with a translation Wink

also you could ude Bablefish ofcourse


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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #21 - 14.10.05 at 20:29:09
 
Man, the Savage2000 even had hardware T&L!

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But if I remember correctly, this was "broken" and wasn't usable at all. Am I right?

Also, since it's a Savage topic, could anybody tell me if this list is right?

From the less powerful to the most powerful:

S3 Savage3D
S3 Savage4 LT
S3 Savage4 GT
S3 Savage4 Pro
S3 Savage4 Pro+
S3 Savage4 Xtreme
S3 Savage 2000

Were there any other Savage 3D GPUs? What about a Savage4 Ultra?
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #22 - 14.10.05 at 22:03:58
 
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Man, the Savage2000 even had hardware T&L!

Shocked

But if I remember correctly, this was "broken" and wasn't usable at all. Am I right?

Also, since it's a Savage topic, could anybody tell me if this list is right?

From the less powerful to the most powerful:

S3 Savage3D
S3 Savage4 LT
S3 Savage4 GT
S3 Savage4 Pro
S3 Savage4 Pro+
S3 Savage4 Xtreme
S3 Savage 2000

Were there any other Savage 3D GPUs? What about a Savage4 Ultra?

yes that's exactly right, I used to to have a S3 Savage 4 Extreme from Diamond Muultimedia Cheesy great S3TC that's for sure.

it was named :
Diamond Stealth III S540 eXtreme! AGP x4 32MB Tongue

though there was no Savage 4 Ultra chip, actually the Savage 2000 was a great improvement compared to the Savage 4 eXtreme, but technically the Savage 2000 could do a quad texture format in a single pass, the Savage4 eXtreme had to do that in two seperate passes, onwhich was alot slower.

both cards did have 128 Bit GPU's and 128 Bit mem interface.
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #23 - 15.10.05 at 01:18:53
 
@LuxKiller65 - from what I read the Savage 2000 was one of the first two TnL cards (the other was Geforce 1). Grin

The TnL was INDEED broken - but was fixed in later drivers...apparently! Roll Eyes Tongue

...now if I could only get mine to F*****G WORK! Angry

@Obi_wan - thanks for the links mate! Wink

Problem is that the Inno3D Savage 2000 that I have seems to use a non-standard Flash ROM, as S3FLASH won't read / write to it? ??? Shocked

Details are as follows Smiley: -

FLASH ROM TYPE
============
PMC Flash
M1A9K
0215
Pm39LV512R-90JC

BIOS MESSAGE
===========
Savage 2000 Bios v1.0 0201-5934
Copyright Inno3D Multimedia

I have emboldened the flash type for easy reading... Grin

...and as you can see, the BIOS corresponds to one of the Viper II release BIOS files. 8)

Although S3FLASH won't let me make a backup OR flash the new BIOS file! Angry

What flash type does your Viper II use? ???

==EDIT==

Slightly unrelated...but this Chaintech GeForce uses the same Flash chip as my Savage 2000... Shocked

http://www.dcomputer.com/proinfo/faq/VGA%5CCHAINTECH%20G480%20DDR%2064MB-1.PDF

How unusual...or maybe not...WTF? ???
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #24 - 15.10.05 at 02:42:33
 
good question well I never have flashed mine since I was a Quake3 freak at that time Quake3 really worked like a charm with those T&L drivers, it's bios didn't need recovery at all. 8)

Anyways I still have my trust Viper II OEM in my Mom's PC and Boxed next to my RA2 Voodoo5 PC Smiley the AthlonXP 2700+ aka Sveta.

But norries on that site, it's nogt english but that site did have the most resources I could find about the Viper II Z200 and other Savage 2000 cards.

I do remember the Savage 2000 board carrying this beautifull Blue S3 SAVAGE 2000 logo:
...

that board had everything you needed for your Savage 2K really everything was there, now I can't seem to find that honorable board anmore ;(
...


oh I also came across this nice site too :
http://usuarios.lycos.es/todohardware/savage2k.htm

Also has a bios section Wink

and also all the specs you need of the S3 Savage 2000 GPU:

Feature List

High-Performance 3D Acceleration

       * Fully integrated Transform and Lighting Engine (S3TL™)
       * 8 source OpenGL compliant hardware lighting
       * Floating point triangle setup engine
       * Complete CPU load balancing capability
       * Fully OpenGL compliant, DX7 ready

Complete 3D Rendering Features

       * Sustained 2 multi-textured pixels/clock performance
       * Single-pass Quad-Texture™ engine
       * Up to 200MHz engine clock speeds
       * 700M texels/s fill rate with dual/quad textures
       * Programmable blending of multiple textures
       * Hardware bump mapping
       * S3 texture compression (S3TC™)
       * True color rendering
       * Full scene anti-aliasing
       * Anisotropic filtering
       * 8-bit stencil buffer
       * 16/24/32-bit Z-buffer
       * Specular lighting and diffuse shading
       * Enhanced alpha blending modes
       * Range-based, vertex and table fog

High Quality Video Support Including DVD/DTV

       * High quality multi-tap up/down scalar
       * Third generation motion compensation design for hardware-accelerated DVD playback
       * Subpicture blending and highlights
       * Fully compliant VIP 2.0 for all HDTV resolutions
       * Support for Microsoft DirectDraw7 HVA Interface
       * Multiple video windows for video conferencing
       * Streams Processor™ display up to 1600x1200
       * De-interlacing for display of interlaced content
       * Fully programmable hue, saturation, contrast, brightness, and gamma controls
       * Multiple HDTV configurations supported via DMA host port bus mastering
       * Digital port for lossless data connection to high quality NTSC/PAL TV encoders

High Speed Memory Bus

       * Up to 200 MHz memory speeds
       * Up to 64 MByte frame buffer
       * 128-bit memory interface supporting up to 3.2 GB/s memory bandwidth
       * 1Mx16, 2Mx32 or 4Mx16 SDRAMs
       * 512Kx32 or 1Mx32 SGRAMs with block write support

Enhanced 2D Acceleration Features

       * Highly optimized 128-bit 2D graphics engine
       * Full featured with acceleration for BitBLT, rectangle fill, line draw, polygon fill, panning/scrolling and hardware cursor
       * 8, 16, 24, and 32 bpp mode acceleration

Flat Panel Desktop Monitor Support

       * DVI compliant
       * 12/24-bit digital interface to flat panel encoders
       * Auto-expansion and centering for VGA text and graphics modes
       * Support for all resolutions up to 1280x1024

Full Software Support

       * Windows 98/95 display drivers
       * Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 2000 display drivers
       * Windows 3.x and OS/2 3.0/4.0 (Warp )
       * Linux display drivers
       * Direct3D, DirectDraw and DirectShow
       * OpenGL ICD for Windows 9x and Windows NT
       * Comprehensive SDK, utilities and ISV tools
       * ISV and bundling programs

Additional Features

       * 350 MHz RAMDAC with gamma correction enables display resolutions up to 2048x1536
       * I²C serial bus and DDC monitor communications
       * ACPI D0-D3 states and PCI power management
       * Parallel flash memory support
       * Full AGP 4x/2x, including sideband addressing and execute mode
       * PCI 2.2 bus support including bus mastering
       * 100% PC’99 compliant
       * 31x31mm PBGA with 409 balls

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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #25 - 15.10.05 at 02:57:02
 
Quote:
oh I also came across this nice site too :
http://usuarios.lycos.es/todohardware/savage2k.htm


BIOS setcion seems to be for mainboards and not GFX...oh well! Tongue

WHOA! Lots of Specs...but all I really need is the flash chip type of your card! Roll Eyes
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #26 - 15.10.05 at 05:06:12
 
how do I find that out? the Bios chip that is, there is a bios sticker on it, I wasn't planned to remove that though hehe
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #27 - 15.10.05 at 16:38:04
 
How does a naked Savage2000 GPU look?
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #28 - 15.10.05 at 18:36:46
 
the S3 Savage 2000 GPU looks like this:
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Re: The S3 SAVAGE 2000.
Reply #29 - 15.10.05 at 19:52:25
 
Oh, nice, I thought that was the "advertising" GPU and not the real one !

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