Help Please. I have a Voodoo 3 2000 AGP, when I plug it to my KT3 Ultra2 mainboard, the onboard speaker will beep 4 times.

Usually when this sounds beeps mean then there's a probleam with the display (not insert properly or damage) and won't boot up. But in my case, my system will boot and continue running like normal after the 4 beeps sound. The sound really annoying me since it will beep everytime I start or restart the PC  >:( .

When the mobo fresh taken out from the box with
default BIOS setting, there's no probleam. But it show my Athlon 1700 XP to a 1100 CPU. Since then i have change the FSB to 133 and reboot, then this probleam occurs. ???

Help Please :'(

Info.
AMD Athlon 1700+ XP
KT3 Ultra2 (MS-6380E)
256MB DDR PC2100 Kingston
40GB Maxtor
Voodoo 3 2000 16MB AGP
Win98 SE
350W PSU

I just leave it "AUTO".  :-/

I heard someone says this board do not support AGP 3.3v and since that voodoo run at 3.3v AGP. But this mainboard support 1,2,4x...

Is't about the 133 FSB?  Hmm...

Yeah you are true...the only probleam is the beep.

I try to run EA Fifa Worldcup without playing but just leave it on the demo for 24hrs and run smoothly without error.

But the beep is really annoying. This really make me sick.

OK...Let me explain from the beginning.

1---First I take out the mobo from the box.
2---I plug everything in.(Processor, RAM, etc)
3--Turn on the computer. Everything looks fine, except my Athlon 1700+ XP to beshown as 1100.
4---Go to Bios and set the FSB to 133. & Reboot
5---The 4 beeps sound occur, then the system run like normal.

This 4 beep sound normally tell you that you got probleam with the VGA  and won't boot up.

but mine will continue running like normal. ???

I just change the FSB to 133 only. That's it, no other cinfiguration etc...

Firstly I turn on the PC, it act like normal & without the 4 beeps sound. The beeps sound occur after I change the BIOS setting (100~133 FSB) and reboot.

When I try to change it back to 100 FSB, it still have th eep sound.  :-[

I have 10 sets of these system. WHAT TO DO!!!

I try to ask the technician from the place I bought, and he says supporse to be working fine, but he says this is the first time he heard such a probleam like this.

..sorry for my english,

Hmm...

Difficult Problem.

Strangely, I've read in numberous places already, that there are some increasing Problems with getting older GFX Cards to run on 133MHz FSB...

Yet, the Problems appear rather random, some Users report even very old cards to run flawless, while some cannot get Cards like Voodoo2 or Matrox G400 to initialize on high FSB...

In general, I'd really make sure the Motherboard does support 3.3V AGP. If it does not, running the Voodoo3 in that Motherboard will significantly overstress its Voltage Regulators, and ultimately can destroy the Motherboard (!)

(Quite a number of 1.5V AGP only Motherboards got killed by their Users that way already ::) )

If it does support 3.3V AGP, I'd set everything in the Bios to max. compatibility, and then try 133MHz FSB.

It might also have to do with Latency timings (if available, play with 32, 64, or even slightly higher values), but that's a far shot...

I think this mobo (KT3 Ultra2 (MS-6380E) does not support AGP 3.3v :-/

When I go through the BIOS setting,

---Frequency/Voltage Control section,
---AGP Voltage (V)

& I found out that available voltage setting  are 1.6/1.7/1.8 & AUTO.  

The AUTO means it support 3.3v AGP? ???


If not I in trouble now :-[. I have 3 sets of Voodoo 3 3000 & 22 sets of Voodoo 3 2000 AGP card. What I supposed to do with it? Besides I have to thrown huge of cash to get a new AGP card on 25 system. Grrrrr.... :(

I'll try to check the D-Bracket & Is't if I ?
Because I try to run EA Fifa Worldcup for 24 hrs and it seems no problem at all. But I just worry if continue running this will destroy the mainboard.

Thanks alot guys. It's alot of help. I try a few forum but the response is poor. (Voodoofiles & MSI forum). This is the best place. ;)

& I'll keep trying maybe upgrade BIOS or something. (The MSI support is so poor, I wrote an email to them almost a weeks & no response).

There are 2 version of BIOS...Which should I use?

BIOS Type  Award® BIOS  File Size  235KB  
Version  3.0  Update date  2002-6-20  
Update Description  This is Award BIOS release  

BIOS Type  Award® BIOS  File Size  238KB  
Version  3.1  Update date  2002-9-16  
Update Description  support AMD XP2400+ & XP2600+ CPU  

???

There's two more

BIOS Type  AMI® BIOS  File Size  521KB  
Version  5.6  Update date  2002-9-10  
Update Description -Fixed WinXP EventViewer ACPI error
-Support XP2400+ & XP2600+ CPU  
Special note  This BIOS is intended for MS-6380E PCB with KT266A & KT333 chipset. K7T266 Pro2-A & K7T266 Pro2-RU dont use the same BIOS,  
Download  6380ev56.exe  


BIOS Type  AMI® BIOS  File Size  521KB  
Version  5.5  Update date  2002-7-9  
Update Description Fixed Compatibility issue with Adaptec 29160 SCSI card

Special note  This BIOS is intended for MS-6380E PCB with KT266A & KT333 chipset. K7T266 Pro2 & K7T266 Pro2-RU don't use the same BIOS,  
Download  6380ev55.exe  


??? ??? ???

Well, in this case you're risking the Board to go up in flames (almost literally, as the Voltage Regulators might blow, or 'burn out' ).

If the Bios offers 1.5,1.6,1.7V, these are indeed only meant to give a slight boost to 1.5V AGP cards (OverClockers love those options).
Auto should use default 1.5V.

There is a really remote chance, that Auto might indeed give you 3.3V (yet unlikely). The only way to confirm that would be the Hardware Monitoring of either the Bios, or Monitoring Software. But if those don't display the AGP Voltage, assume worst case, only 1.5V supported.

The Bios release should always be the latest one you can find, if you decide to flash. There's is no need to 'step-by-step' flash them, just do it once with the latest one.

It seems your Board comes in different Revisions and Releases.
You must flash the Version matching your current Bios Software (either AMI or AWARD). It should tell you at Power-On, and in the Bios itself.

The Flash Programs are usually smart enough to see if there's a mismatch, but I wouldn't rely on that.

Note also, that a Bios Update normally cannot give you 3.3V AGP if that wasn't in there in the first place. This is a Hardware limitation, and the AGP slot probably has gaps/bumps (on 1.5V and 3.3V Signaling Pins) that should physically prevent a 3.3V only AGP Card to be installed onto a 1.5V only Slot and vice versa.

Unfortunately, many of the old 3.3V Cards fit anyway into these 1.5V Slots, due to such matters being simply disregarded in the old days :(
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From the current look at things, it seems that you're really hosed ::)

You either look into PCI cards (in case it MUST be a Voodoo), or choose other 1.5V AGP cards...

Your 25 Voodoo3's probably have to end up at Ebay in order to minimize the losses I guess ::)

Since I don't know what purpose those Voodoo3's were meant to have, you'll have to see for yourself, what other PCI/AGP cards might suit your needs...

What kind of Hardware Monitoring of either the Bios, or Monitoring Software? to check the AGP?

How much should sell the Voodoo 3? 2000/3000

The AGP slot doesn't have any gaps or bumb. Just single straight line slot, with  lock at the end.

This should be present in the "Hardware Monitoring" of your Motherboard's BIOS.

It might be listed under a different name, but it's still easy to find.

Monitoring Software is usually delivered with your Motherboard's CD. Otherwise Freeware tools like MBprobe or MBM 5 (Motherboard Monitor) will do the job.

But anyway, if you cannot boot with the Voodoo3 installed, both ways are useless, since none of them can be accessed....

What price you can sell your Voodoo3's will largely depend on the present demand, and your location...
Ebay will certainly be the best place to sell.

I'd suggest selling one Card there initially, and see what you still get for it. After that, you'll have to decide if that's good enough for you to sell the rest...
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Pretty bad, that there are no locks preventing a 3.3V Card to be plugged in ::)
But I guess most current Manufacturers just don't think someone would use some of the older 3.3V Cards in modern Motherboards...

PS.
Where from did you get so many Voodoo3's, and at what price ? (you said it was expensive, so I'm curious).

The current prices on ebay vary about from 10$ to 20$ for AGP Voodoo3's, but that as well depends on where you're at (e.g. French, German, US Ebay, which do differ alot in prices sometimes).

"But anyway, if you cannot boot with the Voodoo3 installed, both ways are useless, since none of them can be accessed.... "

My Voodoo 3 can boot on the MSI KT3 Ultra2 Mobo. But It always beep 4 times before the system act like normal.

I try to run Counterstrike and Stronghold crusader & nothing happen &  just like normal
All this Voodoo's are from my shop, which I running a Cyber Cafe. Before I upgrade, my shop is using the old Athlon 1Ghz with MSI K7T Turbo2 Mobo which based on KT133 northbridge. Actually I from Asia which I don't see Ebay here.

I bought the Voodoo card long time ago which they provided a free DVD software where you need to send them back the licence provided.

Yeah...that's what I am wondering what's the probleam.

I just finish assemble the second system with the same spec.

AMD Athlon 1700+XP
MSI KT3 Ultra2
PC2100 256MB Kingston
Voodoo 3 2000
etc...

and the same problem consist. 4 beep sound before the computer run like normal. Grrrrrrrrr...... :( no idea at all.
Now I just put this 2 system on 1 week testing period of time. If there's an error or damage on the mobo, then I can warranty it with my dealler.

But the 4 beep sound really not a normal sound on a system. Beside's really annoying each time Turn on the PC & restart the PC grrrrr...whatever. Can somebody help me please...... :-[

I didn't set anything except the FSB from 100 to 133.

I not sure this mobo support 3.3v but when i went through the BIOS setting,  

---Frequency/Voltage Control section,
---AGP Voltage (V)

& I found out that available voltage setting  are 1.6/1.7/1.8 & AUTO.  

& this mobo support 1x/2x/4x...

Well, the basic (and dangerous) Problem is, that many 1.5V Motherboards indeed run for a limited time, even under those extreme Overvoltage conditions...

It's the Voltage Regulators that often eventually fail, unfortunately then catastrophically...

Some may last shorter, some may last longer; but in the end the Motherboard (and all other components) are in great danger of being ultimately damaged and/or destroyed by prolonged operation.

I not sure which is the Bios parameter. But all I can see is a date with

7/10/2002

American Megatrends Bios

A6380VMS V.5.5 071002

on top of the screen.

While at the bottom of the screen written with huge of words & no.'s

62-0710-009999-00101111-040201-VIA_K7-IAARK204-

Phew...that was long.

Does the Asus A7V 333 support Voodoo 3? Because I sell this mobo before, quite cheap & stable. But I didn't try it on my Voodoo because it's my customer system and he want a Geforce 4 Ti4200.  :-/

I installed the MSi info View, and when I tab to the Display section; all Ican see are

Screen Resolution: 800x600
Palette: 16 Bits Color
Vendor ID: 121A Hex
Device ID: 0005 Hex
Subsystem Vendor ID: 121A Hex
Subsytem Device ID: 00.0 Hex

AGP Data Transfers Rate: 1x  2x 4x  (2x in the option box)

"About the bios, i think the parameters in the setup "

What should I looking for...? ???

So you tried this mobo A7V333 on your V5 before? If works then it's great, since the A7V333 much cheaper (alot cheaper) then the MSI KT3 Ultra2. & I can use the extra cash to get more RAM.

But I have to sure :-/ that A7V333 can support my V3 2000 AGP. If I change it with my dealer & found out the same probleam occur then I in deep trouble.

Sorry misunderstanding... :P

A7V333 is more expensive (alot) then KT3 Ultra2

I thought is the cheaper version A7S333... ;)

Oh..."advanced chipset features
integratd peripherals (init display first) "

init display first ---> AGP

but this feature's does not effect the boot up.

I try this feature turn to PCI or AGP & it still boot up
(In different machine)

Do you know the cheaper version A7S333 (SIS chipset) support V3 2000? ......3.3V AGP/2X?

I think there's two section to set the AGP setting.

Advance Chipset Features
-DRAM Timing Control
-AGP Timing Control
-PCI Delay Transaction ---> Enable (Should I put it on Disable or Enable)

Inside AGP Timing Control Section
-AGP Mode ---> Auto
-AGP Comp. Driving ---> Auto
-Manual AGP Comp, Driving ---> CB (In dark color & can't chage)
-Agp Fast Write ---> Disable
-AGP Aperture Size ---> 64MB
-AGP Master 1 W/S Write ---> Disable
-AGP Master 1 W/S Read ---> Disable
-AGP Read Synchronization ---> Disable

Frequency/Voltage Control
-Spread Spectrum ---> +_(I dunno how to type the character)0.25%
-CPU FSB Clock ---> 133 Mhz
-CPU Ratio ---> Auto
-CPU Vcore (V) ---> Auto
-DDR Voltage (V) ---> Auto
-AGP Voltage (V) ---> Auto

Thanks Man, but I got to go. It's 4.06a.m morning here. I try to reach you by tommorow.

Really thanks alot.

"every time i start my computer up, i recieve 4 beeps (1 long 3 short)"

That's the sound i try to describe...

Now the first system already running Third day without a problem (Blue Screen, Crash, etc)

"recieve the beeps while the screen displays the voodoo3 bios, then it will run thru the POST, but once it trys to load windows,"  run like normal...

Forgot to describe, I attacth a Fan on my V3 2000 (Long time ago)which I can feel much less heat on it.

How to remove the original Heat Sink attach on the V3 card?

Do you know how to make the monitor back to normal, because one of my monitor have the V-Size problem. Even with Max V-Size 100, the screen still can't reach full screen with top or bottom. Now my monitor view just like the wide screen TV.  :-[

I try to change my P.S.U to 400W and still the problem occur. Because I thought is the power problem. Have to try everything.

Hm.

The Problem that the Monitor cannot expand the Picture to full size is rare, but known :

Some Monitors report (or have those in their inf Driver Files) just slightly too high Refresh Rates for some Resolutions.

If you take a Monitor just a bit beyond its normal limit, the screen will still be displayed, yet it cannot be expanded to full size in all directions.
Reason is that the Kathode Tube Magnets are just not powerful enough to deflect the Electron Rays far enough at these high KHz parameters.

Solution :
Manually select a Refresh rate just one setting below maximum.
In all cases I know of, this instantly returned normal operations of the Monitor.

It's also not healthy for a Monitor to be run on Maximum Capacity all the time... This tends to shorten lifespan quite a bit, as it stresses components very much.

I tried before...but it ain't help at all. The default setting under the Display Properties Setting is Optimal, so I try to change to 60Hz, 70Hz, or even Adapter Default.

Before this problem, the monitor works fine, but when I plug my new system to the monitor and it become abnormal. Is't the AGP card signal output abnormal.

Can somebody tell me how to remove the original V3 heatsink?

Hmm...

Then I'm afraid I'm out of ideas...

Since I've never removed the Heatsink off any Card, I can't really help with it.

But once the Screws/Connectors that hold it in place are removed, it might be already possible to take it off.

If it is still rugged and fixed by a adhesive glue/thermal paste compount, I've heard people taking it into a sealed bag, and leave it in a freezer for some time.

Once the Card is extremely cold, the Adhesive Paste should become unflexible, and (supposedly) it can be then removed with a careful, yet tight twisting movement... The sealed bag is needed to prevent moisture to form/freeze on its critical, volunerable components.

But anyway, I wouldn't recommend it. There were experiments to replace it with an Orb cooler, and some people found out it cooled actually worse than the stock Heatsink ::)

The best thing that was usually done, was to take a really good 40x40mm 486-class Fan and screw it onto the Heatsink.
Since the Card gets quite hot, most 0815 486-Fans don't live long on it, hence it really needs to be a good one.

With Plastic strips, it should also be possible to attach a more potent 60x60mm 586-class Fan onto it.

Besides much more elaborate constructions, that should be the cheapest, and about most reliable/safe way to increase cooling by a significant margin...

Thanks Falconfly & patience .

I use plastic strips to hold my AMD K6-2 CPU fan, & I add some greese/oil to the fan for longer life span.

Now I try to install the VIA 4-1 Driver, but which the latest version does not have normal ver. or custom ver.
It will automatically install all.

I'm sure the V4.40 to V4.42 Versions have the custom install Option available.

I used the V4.43 just a few days ago, but I honestly don't remember if there was any Custom Install option or not (?)

I run a voodoo 3 3000 on a K7S5A SIS Chipset board
with a AMD XP 1600 , 133 bus Win XP it runs the voodoo
solid as a rock . The boards are cheap quick and reliable
about $110 Australian . I recommend them if you need to find replacement boards . Personally i`ve had bad experiences with VIA chipsets , They can be a bit wierd .

Hmmm... In the past, SIS not a really good one. But nowadays SIS is a product a in Value & performance . Quite cheap & stable...I tried A7S333 with Athlon XP 1800+ run quite smoothly.

I'm sorry , I make a mistake. There's a Normal & Quick installation, but there's no AGP Vxd Turbo or  normal mode.

I try it yesterday with VIA 4.43

" run a voodoo 3 3000 on a K7S5A SIS Chipset board
with a AMD XP 1600 , 133 bus Win XP it runs the voodoo
solid as a rock . The boards are cheap quick and reliable
about $110 Australian "

What brand is the K7S5A ? 133 bus? so is't means not support DDR? or just like the KT133A?

The ECS K7S5A supports both SD-RAM and DDR-SDRAM; 100MHz and 133MHz FSB.

But when going for an SiS-Board, I'd try to get hold of the successor, the K7S6A. At least here, it's about the same price, while offering some 5-10% higher performance because of the newer SiS745 Chipset ;)

patience, do you found any response from the Google forum? Do you know the online game call Ragnarok?

heres the ECS site with mobo specs

http://www.ecs.com.tw/products/k7s5a.htm

from memory i believe its sometimes better to let windows put in its own drivers for ide ,agp etc see how it works then try the 4 in one drivers . Apart from win 98 , it needs them . I remmember having alot of problems with an old rhino mvp3 via chipset , 4 in one ide driver gave me hard drive trouble , and pci network cards would just lock it up .

Does UT2003 support V3?

Check out my Review if you like :

http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=games;action=display;num=1034382568

The upcoming patch should solve some of the Problems, according to the latest announcements...

Seems like work but huge of problem. How about THPS 3(Tony Hawk Pro Skater 3)? Do u know any driver that suites it?

Is UT2003 required a high-end processor? Because I try with Athlon 1ghz, 512MB PC 133, Geforce 2 MX 64Mb and it quite lag.

One more thing about V3, I just got EA Need for speed Hot Pursuit 2. When I try to choose a car, all I can see is grey color on the car.
When i start the game, I can see everything in color but not the tire, because the entire tire fill with grey color.