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Thandor

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Re: AAlchemy GX
Reply #105 - 26.09.05 at 20:04:15

It's difficult to see the exact difference.
The first Q3 picture with the AAlchemy was :

The second :

Those images are not of the same quality. Look at the HUD : The second picture shows lower quality digits (16Bit color ?) and the first picture shows smooth and clean digits (32bits color ?).

Probably a faulty setting I guess. It's best to use exact the same settings and picture to compare.

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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #106 - 26.09.05 at 20:54:56 Compare the two shots of the armor and wall with shotgun. One is from 8164, the other is from V5-6000 and were taken under identical conditions and settings.
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Thandor Ex Member What's the fuzz all about?	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #107 - 26.09.05 at 21:23:00 Those images are not the same. 3DMark has such a function to take a screenshot at frame xxxx. What about Quake 3? But again, the V5 6000 delivers a better HUD and more colors. I don't know which colors are better since I'm not a Quake 3 gamer (It's like the V5 6K has some sunlight and the AAlchemy plays in the middle of the night )
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paulpsomiadis God Member Offline -=3Dfx still rox!=- Posts: 2011 Newcastle U.K. Gender:	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #108 - 26.09.05 at 22:40:52 VERY NICE SHOTS!!! 8) ...more please guvnor! I'm just wondering...since there is GLiDE support...how about some emulator shots like... ...ePSXe with Lewpy's GLiDE plugin ...project 64 with GLiDE 64 plugin just thinkin' that's all!
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Re: AAlchemy GX
Reply #109 - 26.09.05 at 23:44:15

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But again, the V5 6000 delivers a better HUD and more colors. I don't know which colors are better since I'm not a Quake 3 gamer Roll Eyes

(It's like the V5 6K has some sunlight and the AAlchemy plays in the middle of the night Tongue

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As noted already I have not adjusted the gamma in the AA5 graphics properties before taking the screenshots.

3DMark does not work, it is Direct X.

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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #110 - 27.09.05 at 00:09:25 8164 gamma corrected (maybe too much, I might have washed it out a bit) V5-6000, same settings. Notice the performance difference, whew.
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voodoo5500 Full Member Offline Proud 3dfx gamer Posts: 197 Canada Gender:	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #111 - 27.09.05 at 00:51:21 Yeah, your right gdonovan the top pic (8164) is a bit washed out now while the 6000 is nigh on perfect. Keep the screens coming as both cards are really showing fantastic anti-aliasing 8)
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BFG3dfx Ex Member	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #112 - 27.09.05 at 02:16:22 Those images are not the same the 6000 image looks fantastic, really nice, but it just cant keep up with the q3d card, take a look at crispness of armour, or even top left of wall, the jagies are almost gone with 6000 just not as well as q3d, both nice cards.
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #113 - 27.09.05 at 03:14:26 Time permitting I'll try to figure a way to take a screenshot in the same location so everything is in the same spot.
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edmundoab God Member Offline Settling down back in Malaysia Posts: 651 Shah Alam, MALAYSIA Gender:	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #114 - 27.09.05 at 13:31:54 damn, I missed out so much ever since getting a new job wow... so many pics lol, I really need time to read every thread either way good job gary and again, congrats for your hardwork
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Re: AAlchemy GX
Reply #115 - 27.09.05 at 13:37:53

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Time permitting I'll try to figure a way to take a screenshot in the same location so everything is in the same spot.

If you can record a game, stand still for a long time at a certain point.

Play the recorded game on one card and take a screenshot at the point where you stand still and then play the game on the other card to take a screenshot at the same place.

Seems easy enough Wink

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Thema Senior Member Offline Hardcore Powah Posts: 485 Slovenia Gender:	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #116 - 27.09.05 at 13:38:58 Offtopic.. wow so you got employed after all, You'll get to buy some voodoos now huh.
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Re: AAlchemy GX
Reply #117 - 27.09.05 at 14:22:04

well I don't know why all of you are look'n so precise, the fact ae proven the AALchemy 8164 beats a 6K with ease, in image quallity as speed, rather funny don't you think 8x VSA-100 with 8x 64MB 5.4ns Toshiba V.S. 4x VSA-100 with 4x 32MB 6.ns Hynx / 5.4ns Toshiba Wink

the AAlchemy 8164 has overall way more rendering power than a 6K , otherwise it wouldn't make sence since the 6 K has about 62% less rendering power.

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Re: AAlchemy GX
Reply #118 - 27.09.05 at 14:41:56

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the AAlchemy 8164 has overall way more rendering power than a 6K , otherwise it wouldn't make sence since the 6 K has about 62% less rendering power.

You could state the same thing about Mercury and it would be false, it's no faster then a regular V2 SLI rig.

Where the V5-6000 shines is at 0x/2x/4x AA, the V6K's VSA-100 chips are always active where on the 8164 at the same settings some of the chips are idle.

The 8164 only has the advantage under maximum rendering settings, that is what it was designed for.

It can also be a liability since you can't use those extra chips when AA is set at 0x/4x AA.

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Obi-Wan_Kenobi Ex Member	Re: AAlchemy GX Reply #119 - 28.09.05 at 01:40:44 oh okay but I referred to the FSAA x8 setting there the 8164 does have the upper hand sorry that I haven't been to clear at my point . but yeah it's image quallity is outstanding 8)
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