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Title: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by Loeschzwerg on 22.05.12 at 18:27:57

Hi everyone,

today a package arrived I've been waiting for quite some time. The shipment comes from Taiwan and contains 10 PCI-to-PCI bridges :)

Those are PCI6152-CC66BC bridges from PLX and are identical to the HiNT HB1-SE66. Every Voodoo 5 6000 owner should know these ;)

HiNT Copr. was taken over by PLX Technology in the year 2003. The PLX PCI6152-CC66BC is a revised version of the HB1-SE66 and 1 to 1 compatible according to the spec sheet.

A few pics:
http://www.abload.de/thumb/packung_1gddvh.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/packung_22pe8m.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/packung_35ad0d.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/packung_42piit.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/packung_585egp.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/packung_6mbe78.jpg -> The packaging
http://www.abload.de/thumb/traeger_18efcv.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/traeger_2fkif1.jpg -> The charge carrier with 10 bridges
http://www.abload.de/thumb/pci6152_1nye1j.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/pci6152_31och4.jpg http://www.abload.de/thumb/pci6152_2uzib8.jpg -> The bridge itself

So I now own a few spare bridges for Voodoo 5 6000 beginning with the rev 2600.

Regards,
Löschzwerg

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by trevormacro on 22.05.12 at 19:17:44

Loeschzwerg wrote on 22.05.12 at 18:27:57:

Hi Loeschzwerg,

What do you want to do with these chips? repair dead hint chip on rev.2600A2?

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by Loeschzwerg on 22.05.12 at 19:27:56

I bought them because a few weeks ago PLX did officially stop to take orderings, so I thought it would be good to have a few for spare ;)

"Beginning with rev 2600" I meant from rev 2600 to 3900.

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by goriath on 22.05.12 at 19:34:37

Nice catch. These could turn out handy in the next future ;)

http://img821.imageshack.us/img821/8082/dscf0175co.th.jpg

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by trevormacro on 22.05.12 at 19:34:57

Loeschzwerg wrote on 22.05.12 at 19:27:56:

I bought them because a few weeks ago PLX did officially stop to take orderings, so I thought it would be good to have a few for spare ;)

"Beginning with rev 2600" I meant from rev 2600 to 3900.

Ok, thanks ;)

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by trevormacro on 24.05.12 at 02:49:14

@Loeschzwerg:

Can you repair the V5k6 rev.3700A of GrandAdmiralThrawn?

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by Loeschzwerg on 24.05.12 at 07:24:56

If the bridge is the broken part, yes.

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by Loeschzwerg on 18.06.12 at 20:03:09

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by rottentreats on 19.06.12 at 17:12:04

Amazing work! I always love to see another goddess come back to life. 8-) Keep up the great work!

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by Loeschzwerg on 19.06.12 at 17:15:02

Thanks :)

Maybe other cards will follow soon 8-)

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by Loeschzwerg on 22.06.12 at 13:58:38

Bad news, the card remains dead after all :(

The card works for a day and then stops working. Voltage supply is ok, memory of master VSA100 is also ok.

I re-soldered the bridge several times but it always behaves the same way.

At the moment I don't get a response anymore... so I think after all that reworks something else got damaged :(

Sad for Chosen, sad for the card :-[

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by goriath on 22.06.12 at 15:01:23

[quote author=6F4C4650404B5954465144230 link=1337704077/10#10 date=1340366318]Bad news, the card remains dead after all :(

The card works for a day and then stops working. Voltage supply is ok, memory of master VSA100 is also ok.

I re-soldered the bridge several times but it always behaves the same way.

At the moment I don't get a response anymore... so I think after all that reworks something else got damaged :(

Sad for Chosen, sad for the card :-[/quote]

Oh damn...

That's really make me sad, so clooose.

But, let's make it more clear; reading better what you have written, I understand it worked for few hours, then it stopped to work, right?

...And at the time you was writing this post the card has actually stopped completely to work, right?

:(

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by Loeschzwerg on 22.06.12 at 15:21:43

Yes, I don't get any feedback from the card. "no VGA beep" and no bridge is shown with PCI view.

The problem is also that the solder pads have been though a lot now and two pads have started to lift. I have fear that, if I unsolder the bridge again, the card will get damaged even more :-/ So I can't do anything to bring the card back.

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by trevormacro on 22.06.12 at 16:08:43

Loeschzwerg wrote on 22.06.12 at 15:21:43:

3 solutions:

First --> Hint chip is bad soldered:

Do the work with a pro. company and make X-Ray after work to see if all traces on V5k6 card is very good soldered with all traces on rear hint chip.

Second --> Traces on the card can be damaged (it's not possible to sold hint chip on the card):

They need to check traces and know where each ball from chip Hint must be soldered. It's a chinese work!

Third --> the PLX bridge is not good for the card:

You need to have the exact model which is already present on the card.

Regards,
Trevor

Title: Re: PCI-to-PCI Bridge PLX PCI6152-CC66BC F
Post by goriath on 22.06.12 at 18:44:48

Nope.

He's saying the pads inside the bridge area are starting to lift. If they completely come off from the PCB, the death of the card is official.

Actually it depends. If the pads which are lifting are on the edge, they are linked to visibile traces upon the PCB surface around the bridge, in this case you can do a rework, it's not easy, but you can try (but I think that Loeschzwerg have already done the math). Otherwise if we are speaking about one of those inside the area (beneath the bridge), those are linked somewhere throught all the card's layers; in this case, there is no chinese that can do something.

EDIT: The compatibility of the PLX bridge is out of question IMHO. I read the datasheet too and the PCI6152-CC66BC fully complies to the original Hint bridge specs. These bridges were being used on late AAlchemy boards too.