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Message started by trevormacro on 06.03.13 at 13:00:50

Title: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 06.03.13 at 13:00:50
Hello everybody,

Here is the new Aircooler project for a Voodoo5 6000 Rev3700A.

About the frontcooler,

I can use thermal grease on RAM and GPU frontside.
Thickness: 12mm Aluminium.
Material: eloxieren (anodize).
nb. it will be cheaper and the quality is better. heat transfer does not influenced because the layer is very fine. A paintlayer is thicker.

About the backcooler,

I can use thermalpad on RAM and GPU Backside. Its the same heightflush.
The mini heatsinks placed on rear of VSA100 don't touch smd parts (1mm distance). Just help to dissipate heat from back.

nb. I must find a company to create gold color for the complete cooler.

About the fans,

8 NB-BlackSilentFan 40mm
Link:
http://fortunatrade.de/!ebay_images2011/DSC_8132.jpg
http://www.blacknoise.com/en/products/it/12/Noiseblocker-NB_BlackSilentFan_40mm
4 in frontside and 4 in backside.
To put the fans on vsa powersupply I need this cable: http://www.mikrocontroller.net/attachment/70785/3_pol_y-kabel.jpg

Here are the samples:

Frontside:



Backside:





An idea for the gold color:




Any reactions?


Best Regards,

Trevormacro

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by ultima on 06.03.13 at 13:58:25
didn't you already have a custom air cooled 6000?? what is the reason behind this?? see what cools better??

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 06.03.13 at 15:37:59

ultima wrote on 06.03.13 at 13:58:25:
didn't you already have a custom air cooled 6000?? what is the reason behind this?? see what cools better??


I just want to have one other aircooled system and sure compare them in the futur.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by ultima on 07.03.13 at 09:59:00
I guess that is where we differ in opinion.

If I had a V5 6000, I would leave it as is, the 4 fans setup it originally has cools just fine and looks nice too.

with all those new heatsinks you add, you just make it look like a newer card, not my cup of tea. :)

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 28.03.13 at 13:21:39
An update!

Front and rear cooler:





Video:

http://youtu.be/PDtndPP_e5U

You like it?

Regards,
Trevor

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by ultima on 28.03.13 at 14:20:31
to be honest...no.

there is nothing special about the cooler, it won't cool that much better then the default heatsinks if you ask me.

don't go thinking I don't like anything you do, but this is screwing up a card with an option that doesn't make it better in any way, visual or mechanical.

If the visible side would've looked like the underside, that dark greyish, then I would've liked it a lot more, but that plain silvery look doesn't do the card justice.

but ofcourse that is just my 0.02$

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 28.03.13 at 19:24:32

ultima wrote on 28.03.13 at 14:20:31:
to be honest...no.

there is nothing special about the cooler, it won't cool that much better then the default heatsinks if you ask me.

don't go thinking I don't like anything you do, but this is screwing up a card with an option that doesn't make it better in any way, visual or mechanical.

If the visible side would've looked like the underside, that dark greyish, then I would've liked it a lot more, but that plain silvery look doesn't do the card justice.

but ofcourse that is just my 0.02$


With originals 3dfx heatsinks in my room (@25°) I have a low max frequency passed with 3dmark2001se. After, the benchmark freeze.
We will see what is the new max frequency with these news coolers on the same card.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by ultima on 28.03.13 at 19:50:46
but why do you want to overclock all those 6000's?? what the use? you only risk damaging the cards this way.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 28.03.13 at 21:15:34

ultima wrote on 28.03.13 at 19:50:46:
but why do you want to overclock all those 6000's?? what the use? you only risk damaging the cards this way.


If you o/c one 3dfx card you don't risk to damage it because there is a freeze and after you restart your pc and no problem (frequency by default @166MHz for the V5k6)
It's very rare to damage a card with an o/c.


Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by ultima on 29.03.13 at 07:38:22
but still, why overclock all those 6000's? they all have the same chips, a slightly different cooler won't make that much difference.

I say it serves no purpose, except throwing money away. but that's just me

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 29.03.13 at 13:43:09

ultima wrote on 29.03.13 at 07:38:22:
but still, why overclock all those 6000's? they all have the same chips, a slightly different cooler won't make that much difference.

I say it serves no purpose, except throwing money away. but that's just me


o/c them sometimes to make some benchmarks. It's a pleasure.
Remember my world record @200 MHz in 3dmark2001se (GoldSE).
And my second max frequency @206 MHz (watercooled)
nb. new coolers increase the price of the card.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by ultima on 29.03.13 at 14:56:54
the coolers may increase the price you ask for the card, but in my opinion, they decrease the value of it.


If you'd use 2 cards for overclocking purposes, that would seem logical, even different revs, but more then 2 is not needed if you ask me.

I know overclocking is fun, I do it as well, altho more with old cpu's like the K6-2 / K6-2, Athlon(XP), XP-M etc etc.

I don't know how other people feel about it, but if I were to buy a 6000 from you, I would pay more for one that is in it's original state then one that has one of those coolers on it.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 29.03.13 at 15:37:53

ultima wrote on 29.03.13 at 14:56:54:
the coolers may increase the price you ask for the card, but in my opinion, they decrease the value of it.


If you'd use 2 cards for overclocking purposes, that would seem logical, even different revs, but more then 2 is not needed if you ask me.

I know overclocking is fun, I do it as well, altho more with old cpu's like the K6-2 / K6-2, Athlon(XP), XP-M etc etc.

I don't know how other people feel about it, but if I were to buy a 6000 from you, I would pay more for one that is in it's original state then one that has one of those coolers on it.


If one day I want to sell one of my 6k 3700A,
I will sell it with originals 3dfx coolers next to the card. You can change the cooler like you want If you have thermal grease.
In year 2000 a V5 6000 3700 had a value of 600 dollars.
I have baught my first 6k 3700 with compatible motherboard a long time ago for a price of 1000 euros.
In 2013 you can buy one for 3500 euros and more...

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by Loeschzwerg on 29.03.13 at 16:43:05

trevormacro wrote on 29.03.13 at 15:37:53:
In year 2000 a V5 6000 3700 had a value of 600 dollars.
I have baught my first 6k 3700 with compatible motherboard a long time ago for a price of 1000 euros.
In 2013 you can buy one for 3500 euros and more...


The prices have only gone that high because of you :(

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 29.03.13 at 17:25:33

Loeschzwerg wrote on 29.03.13 at 16:43:05:

trevormacro wrote on 29.03.13 at 15:37:53:
In year 2000 a V5 6000 3700 had a value of 600 dollars.
I have baught my first 6k 3700 with compatible motherboard a long time ago for a price of 1000 euros.
In 2013 you can buy one for 3500 euros and more...


The prices have only gone that high because of you :(


Not only me.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by goriath on 29.03.13 at 18:15:26

trevormacro wrote on 29.03.13 at 17:25:33:

Loeschzwerg wrote on 29.03.13 at 16:43:05:

trevormacro wrote on 29.03.13 at 15:37:53:
In year 2000 a V5 6000 3700 had a value of 600 dollars.
I have baught my first 6k 3700 with compatible motherboard a long time ago for a price of 1000 euros.
In 2013 you can buy one for 3500 euros and more...


The prices have only gone that high because of you :(


Not only me.


Nope. 'cause you and no one else.

Sellers? Although sellers have their own responsibility they just sell things to those who pay more for them, but before you a v56k never reached such crazy prices.

This is the truth, simple and plain.
Kid, you are a plague, face it.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by osckhar on 29.03.13 at 18:15:48
Tired of hearing the same thing.

If you do not like mod 6k. I understand.  But no need to repeat it in every post. In each topic I always find the same answer. It is redundant.

The price of a 6k depends on supply and Demanda. It's not fair to always blame Michel. Before anyone selling a 6k since the price was not attractive. Everybody preferred to keep and not sell. At one point appeared Michel and achieved what no one had done it. Buy 6k. Michel makes an offer and the seller sells.

I think Michel made a big mistake. Buy 6k common at exorbitant prices. When he should choose which card he wants and try to buy. Here his mistake.

And now I'm sure he would not buy more common 6k how did lately. Sure he prefers  quality and not quantity.

People learn based errors.

- Oscar.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 07.04.13 at 20:34:29
@Osckhar:

Thanks for your words ;)

@All:

The card has a new dress...





Video (Second part):

http://youtu.be/a7RqO_9qL6c

8-)

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by NitroX infinity on 07.04.13 at 21:17:10
The HSF looks okay, but somehow I think 2 80mm fans on each side would displace more air and be quieter than those 8 40mm fans.

Perhaps you could even do with just 1 80mm fan on each side.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 07.04.13 at 21:28:49

NitroX infinity wrote on 07.04.13 at 21:17:10:
The HSF looks okay, but somehow I think 2 80mm fans on each side would displace more air and be quieter than those 8 40mm fans.

Perhaps you could even do with just 1 80mm fan on each side.


Godd idea but the idea is to have same size as original cooler.





Need to have some 3dfx stickers now :)

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by subhumangarbage on 08.04.13 at 20:56:36

trevormacro wrote on 28.03.13 at 21:15:34:

ultima wrote on 28.03.13 at 19:50:46:
but why do you want to overclock all those 6000's?? what the use? you only risk damaging the cards this way.


If you o/c one 3dfx card you don't risk to damage it because there is a freeze and after you restart your pc and no problem (frequency by default @166MHz for the V5k6)
It's very rare to damage a card with an o/c.


Cooler looks great, but it could have looked much better on black. heeh.

but..

Electromigration.

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by ultima on 09.04.13 at 08:26:59
I have to admit that it looks better on the card then I expected :)

And as said, but that ofcourse is taste I guess, I also think it would look cooler if the heatsink was black, nice dark look to it. :)

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 28.04.13 at 18:09:28
The card running in the silence :)



A test @192 MHz:

http://youtu.be/yr-BbYo447g

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by m14radu on 28.04.13 at 18:41:03
The cooler looks very nice and remember me of the original 3dfx cooler for v5 6000.

Are you using the modded v5 6000, with 3.5ns memory chips ?

Title: Re: 3dx Voodoo5 6000 Second Aircooler Edition
Post by trevormacro on 28.04.13 at 19:08:57

m14radu wrote on 28.04.13 at 18:41:03:
The cooler looks very nice and remember me of the original 3dfx cooler for v5 6000.

Are you using the modded v5 6000, with 3.5ns memory chips ?


Thanks,
I use a original V5 6000 with 6ns sdrams.

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