As anyone had any problems with Microsoft Train Simulator?

I can run it for 10 to 15 minutes then it just stops and I get the Microsoft message send this error report to Microsoft.

Microsoft Train Simulator
Application Failure train.exe 1.16.5.912 in train.exe 1.16.5.912 at offset 000b62a3
Microsoft Train Simulator
Application Failure train.exe 1.16.5.912 in unknown 0.0.0.0 at offset 01bffc95

etc

I'm using a Voodoo3 2000 PCI, Win98se. I've downloaded and installed voodoo3-10700 drivers, no difference. I've downloaded AmigaMerlin-win9x-29 and that makes no difference either.

I've downloaded and installed the updates from Microsoft but this make no difference.

I've emailed Microsoft and they say:

This error message usually indicates your video driver is incompatible with DirectX 7.0 or later, or your computer video card is using outdated drivers, or your video card does not meet the minimum memory requirements.

DirectX 7.0 is installed as standard, I'm using 8.1 now.

I did a search on Microsoft Knowledge base.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;303496

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;301185

I've done an uninstall and re-install but it still crashes.

Yes I've tried that web page. It only talks about using troubleshooter which I've used. There is no problem when the game runs, all the effects, graphics all work great. I've even cut out all the effects in the options, and it still crashes.

Unfortunately most of the Microsoft Sims I've played require Highend DirectX video cards.
The only spec shown for the game is:

Video card: 8MB/3D

Which should cover most cards.

Thanks guys.

wrote on 17.02.05 at 20:13:49:

Hum, how do you setup the 3dfx tools ? edit : what's your machine ?

Because it still crashes with Amigamerlin 2.9 installed I uninstall the tools.

I've added my comp spec to my signature.

I had another email from Microsoft. Although you have the latest drivers for your graphics card installed they are very old. I have checked the 3dfx website and noticed that your graphics card is not longer supported by the manufacturer. In the meantime from the DxDiag file you sent I noticed some problems with DirectX.
Telling me to download DirectX 8.1, which is already installed and do a safe mode install. There were no problems in the DxDiag.txt file, only there's no input device (joystick).

I tried all options in the Troubleshooter today and that made no difference.


wrote on 17.02.05 at 20:13:49:

Since you can start and run the game without problem during some time

I noticed yesterday that it crash once while starting up.

For Patience's sake, this is what the game's readme file says about video cards:

VIDEO DISPLAYS AND VIDEO DRIVERS
Install latest drivers
In many cases you'll get better video performance if you install the latest drivers from your video card manufacturer. A list of these sites is available at the Microsoft Train Simulator Web site: http://www.microsoft.com/games/trainsim/info/
Finding out what video card your computer has
You can find out the manufacturer of your video card by following these steps:
1. Click Start, point to Settings, and click Control Panel.
2. Double-click System.
3. In the System Properties window, click the Hardware tab and navigate to the section that describes your video card.
This section lists the type of video card that you have installed in your computer.
Setting color depth for maximum performance
For best performance, use the high color (16-bit) setting for your video resolution. Displaying more colors affects performance.
Optimizing your font settings
It is recommended that you set your system’s display settings to Small Fonts to maximize viewable space in Train Simulator dialog boxes. Also, users of the Windows® 95 Plus! Pack or Windows 98 who have selected Smooth edges of screen fonts in their Windows Display settings will display smoothed fonts. If you don't have the Plus! Pack, you can download the font smoother from: http://www.microsoft.com/typography/grayscal/smoother.htm
If you have less than 64MB of RAM and an 8 or 16MB video card
If you have a computer with 64MB of RAM or less, and are using video cards with 16MB or less, do not turn up the World Objects Texture Quality setting (in the Options screen) past 2, or the game may freeze up.
Supported video resolutions
The following resolutions are supported by most video cards and are available for selection (if supported):
640 x 480, 800 x 600, 1024 x 768, 1280 x 1024
All resolutions provided by the video card at 640 x 480 and above are supported, in 16- and 32-bit color depths.
Resolutions of 640 x 480 and below, or color depths other than 16- or 32-bit, are not supported.
VIDEO CARDS--SPECIFIC ISSUES
ATI
Radeon (Get technical support and information from http://www.ati.com)
 In the Introductory Train Ride, there are visible seams in the cockpit. Fixed with the latest drivers.
 Simulation crashes to the desktop, after displaying black screen with hourglass. Fixed with the latest drivers.
Rage Fury Maxx (Get technical support and information from http://www.ati.com)
 User Interface flickers. Selecting the "Disable Dual Chip Mode" option on the card's settings fixes the problem. This setting can be found under the "Advanced" settings in the Displays tab of the Windows Control Panel.
 Restoring the simulation from ALT+TAB causes Train Simulator to crash to the desktop. Fixed with latest drivers.
 Some computers won't boot in hardware unless desktop is set to 24-bit. Fixed with latest drivers.
 Some users may experience problems running in dual chip mode. Selecting the "Disable Dual Chip Mode" option on the card's settings fixes the problem. This setting can be found under the "Advanced" settings in the Displays tab of the Windows Control Panel.
Rage Xpert 128 (Get technical support and information from http://www.ati.com)
 Performance runs at 2-4 frames per second. Fixed with latest drivers.
Creative Labs (Get technical support and information from http://www.americas.creative.com)
CT6960 (Annihilator Pro)
 User Interface quality is poor, does not “redraw” properly. Fixed with latest drivers.
Diamond Fire GL1
 Not supported for Train Simulator.
Intel i740 video card
 Not supported for Train Simulator
KYRO (32MB AGP) (Get technical support and information from http://www.powervr.com)
 Simulation hangs on load screen in 1600 x 1200 x32 resolution. Fixed with latest drivers.
Matrox Millennium G200
 An error occurs and the simulation does not launch. Latest drivers from http://www.matrox.com fix this problem.
Nvidia (Get technical support and information from http://www.nvidia.com.)
GeForce 256 (Micron) OEM system
 Train Simulator launches to a black screen. Fixed with latest driver.
Savage 4
 Texture rendering fails. This is fixed with the latest driver completely or by turning OFF shadows when using the retail driver.
 Changing from one task to another causes a black screen.
TNT2 M64 4xAGP. OEM Dell Dimension 4100
 Some of the loading screen text is missing. Fixed with latest driver from Nvidia at http://www.nvidia.com)
 Rendition V1000 (3D Blaster PCI)& PCI (Rendition V1000) (http://www.rendition.com)
 Simulation is unable to run on this card. Drivers for this card do not support DirectX 7, which is required to run Train Simulator.
Voodoo
Voodoo3 (Get technical support and information from 3dfx at http://www.3dfx.com)
 Train Simulator hangs on loading screen after selecting Drive a Train. Fixed with latest drivers.
 Problem with textures rendering on buildings/objects with 3Dfx. Fixed with latest drivers.
Voodoo5
 The mouse is difficult to see when used with online Help.
SOUND CARDS—SPECIFIC ISSUES
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Live!
 May experience random lockups and crashes. Latest drivers fixes this issue.
=======================================

I have used the program with a Voodoo5, but I have never seen the lockups described here.

wrote on 17.02.05 at 23:00:56:

Hum, i'm thinking or you have a problem of hardware or a problem with the install. of the game. Do you know if a demo exists ? i see nothing. If yes, i own a machine which can run under Win98SE with a K6/3+ 450.

I've done a full scandisk and the drive shows no errors. I did a search for a demo but I can't find any.

akula65 the MS web site, the one in the readme is wrong:
http://www.microsoft.com/games/trainsimulator

What trians cause the program to crash?

All the trains crash. It will crash sometimes when its loading the main screens.

Someone suggested I rebuild Windows because of some conflict somewhere. I put a bigger Hard drive in last week. I installed the standard voodoo drivers. I installed the sound card drivers. I installed DirectX 8.1. I installed Trainsim and ran it for 40 minutes without any crashes. It normally crashes in the first 10 - 15 minutes. I thought great, no crashes its working.

So I carried on installing all my other software and ran it again later that night. And guess what, it crashed within 10 minutes again.  :-[

What trian are you using when it crashes?

Is it the same trian? will it crash quicker on certian trains?

*edit* Also i just thought i would ask, Is it when the trians are going in a certain direction? How many passengers and were are the trians heading?

[quote author=Keithuk link=1108600902/0#10 date=1109432158]I put a bigger Hard drive in last week. I installed the standard voodoo drivers. I installed the sound card drivers. I installed DirectX 8.1. I installed Trainsim and ran it for 40 minutes without any crashes. It normally crashes in the first 10 - 15 minutes. I thought great, no crashes its working.

So I carried on installing all my other software and ran it again later that night. And guess what, it crashed within 10 minutes again.  :-[/quote]

It sounds like something you installed later has created a conflict.

Try unistalling all your "other software" one @ a time and test Trainsim after each uninstall.

I did a search for some Omega drivers because when I used to run Colin McRae 2 that used to crash. I can't find the original drivers because the link in down. But I found V3-4-5 Omega Drivers v1.03 W9x-ME.

http://www.guide3d.ru/omega/3dfx.shtml

I installed those and ran it for the full journey 50 minutes without a crash. I tried to do another journey and that crashed just after starting off. I selected another journey and that ran the total distance, 30 minutes.

So I still think its a matter of getting some compatible drivers.  ;)

Where from patience?

V3-4-5_W9x_102_Omega_Special.exe

I used to have this on CD but the CD got corrupted.

the driver is here as well:
http://www.video-drivers.com/drivers/36/36421.htm

login: temp
password: 512

Possibily...

I still think his problem lies with a certian trian...

This is probibily the 7:15 trian...

I would format your computer and install mandrake 10.0... Then PM me and i will send you my advanced "breadcrumb" kernel ;)

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Seems like the region around Manchester isn't what it used to be...

Maybe Paul Jones is The_Doctor?

???

Maybe, different Provider but maybe.
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wrote on 28.02.05 at 00:49:24:

Sure ?

Hmm? Im not so sure..

Have a good day ;)

(A Consideribliy more advanced day mabie
;D)

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Maybe he should find some incredibly more advanced provider, don't you think FF?

:P

Yep, by the time I run out of available slots for IP / IP Region bans, he will have long run out of
a) available Providers and
b) money.

let's hope that we don't get plagued by these silly mortals.

Well just a little update on this M$ Train Simulator.

My Voodoo3 2000 decided to pack up this week. It would only start up in Safe Mode with all lines down the screen. I have a spare monitor but that made no difference.

I went to my local computer builder for a new graphics card that could be used with Windows98se. Don't have any they are all made for Win2k/XP/Vista now. So I don't think can get any new Voodoo cards now and nVidia bought out Voodoo. So a bought an old card he took out of a machine for £5, sale or return. nVidia GeForce2 MX400.

I thought I would try the Train Simulator again to see if it works with this card. I installed TS and tried to run it but nothing happened at all. No errors just a black screen, you had to reset the comp to get it to work again.

Anyway I thought I would try Grand Prix Legends to see the difference. With my old Voodoo you could see a lot more detail on the track, braking area for corners. With this nVidia card you don't get that detail, but the game worked ok.

So is anyone else going to make a true 3DFX card does anyone know.  ;)