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DenisF Senior Member Offline So fluffy it hurts Posts: 409 Israel Gender:	Re: Upgrade time Reply #45 - 07.07.04 at 14:32:16 Yeh all Radeon 9x [x>2] are DirectX parts. Good choice amigo, but the 9500pro can't be modded into a 9700pro you're still better off with the 9 pipelines on that beast, though
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janskjaer Ex Member	Re: Upgrade time Reply #46 - 07.07.04 at 15:54:51 Ah, ok! But still, I suppose the Genuine 9500 Pro is better than a 9500 being softmodded to a 9500 Pro or 9700. According to this page: http://softmod.ocfaq.com/faq.php The 9500's cannot be modded to a 9700 Pro. Just a 9700 non-pro.
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DenisF Senior Member Offline So fluffy it hurts Posts: 409 Israel Gender:	Re: Upgrade time Reply #47 - 07.07.04 at 17:13:59 yup it's all a number game don't worry though, like said before, the 9700np wouldn't show any difference in performance to the 9500pro
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janskjaer Ex Member	Re: Upgrade time Reply #48 - 07.07.04 at 23:21:41 Safe! However, I have seen a few forum topics kicking about where people have claimed they have softmodded a Radeon 9500 Pro to a Radeon 9700 Pro. ??? How does that work then? I'll se if I can find the forums again.
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DenisF Senior Member Offline So fluffy it hurts Posts: 409 Israel Gender:	Re: Upgrade time Reply #49 - 07.07.04 at 23:28:03 Look on rage3d.com, these guys are the experts on everything concerning radeon card There are even some ati devs who regularly visit there, so if any - they will know.
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janskjaer Ex Member	Re: Upgrade time Reply #50 - 07.07.04 at 23:33:09 Nice one DenisF matey , I will check that out. Here are a couple of those topics regarding a Radeon 9500 Pro ->Radeon 9700 Pro softmod: http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&u=http://forum.rue-montgallet.... http://www.short-media.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123 I will regularly update these as I find them!
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paulpsomiadis

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Re: Upgrade time
Reply #51 - 08.07.04 at 01:23:30

Ookay matey, I'm BAAACK! Grin

Been away a while cos' my American Dreamcast arrived and I had to install a MOD chip... 8)

DenisF is correct in saying that the 9500Pro CAN'T be HARDWARE modded into a Radeon 9700Pro - but you can STILL perform the soft-mod to boost it up to a 9700! Cheesy

(I presume I'm correct here, but I've not tried this yet with a Radeon 9500Pro - I checked and my uncles card was also a Radeon 9500 non-pro! Only HIS card had broken pipelines - so he wasn't so lucky!) Tongue

Or just O.C. the sucka'! 8)

Oh and you might want to invest in a spiffy heatsink if the MOD works - you'll be running the card at higher clock rates and it won't do the GPU much good with a stock heatsink on it! Roll Eyes

And in case you're wondering WHY the 9500Pro can't be modded to a 9700Pro (via hardware at least), it is because the 9500 and 9700 use the same circuit board layout - whilst the 9500Pro is a different board! Wink

Also, if you'd gone and bought an ordinary non-pro 9500 it's still the 'luck of the draw' whether you get a moddable card. Most of the 9500 cards have broken pipelines - so ATI just disables the 'extra' ones (that are enabled on a 9700) and turns the card into a 9500... Roll Eyes

I just got lucky when I bought my 9500 and the extra pipelines were O.K. when enabled! Grin

Oh and @DenisF a stock 9500 CAN be modded to a 9700Pro - if you flash the card with a 9700 PRO BIOS after re-soldering the resistor on the GPU (hey I should know, I've already done it!) 8)

It also helps to have 3.3ns memory on the card when modding it to a PRO (mine does!) Grin

For your info, my card is the topmost on the page you linked here: -

http://softmod.ocfaq.com/faq.php

I presume your card looks like the second topmost, and therefore cannot be HARDWARE modded! Cry

(Actually, according to the page you linked it can't be SOFT modded either - but you can always try!)

Anyhow, I'll stop there before my fingers melt the keyboard from typing... Roll Eyes

Nuff said! Grin

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janskjaer Ex Member	Re: Upgrade time Reply #52 - 08.07.04 at 11:26:22 Nice one matey, thanks for the pointers! Yeah, i read up on which cards (with either 'I' or 'L' memory formations) mod to which cards. I may try a softmod first, and if that doesn't work or I'm not satisfied with the performance gain, I'll o/c the sucka! Hehe. Cheers mate!
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janskjaer

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Re: Upgrade time
Reply #53 - 19.07.04 at 12:28:41

I'm back! 8)

Well, after nearly a week of trying to get the Radeon 9500 Pro up and running, I think it's beginning to look stable! God, ATI cards are hard work sometimes! Wink

After numerous problems and being in contact with the seller and Rage3D forums (cheers DenisF, would still be stuck with problems if you didn't forward this forum to me), and a trying a a large amount of varying drivers, I think I may have found something that's stable.

I'm using OmegaDrivers' Catalyst 3.9 drivers instead of ATI's own, as they suck and caused my system to crash or reboot all the time!

So, hopefully, fingers crossed, I have a successfull upgrade! Now just to sit back reap the benefits of the performance of a Radeon over my GF2Pro. Grin

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paulpsomiadis God Member Offline -=3Dfx still rox!=- Posts: 2011 Newcastle U.K. Gender:	Re: Upgrade time Reply #54 - 20.07.04 at 00:46:55 Glad that you fixed your problems mate! I'll break out the Budweiser now..."true...true" ATI Radeon - gonna' kick jo' A$$! 8)
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janskjaer Ex Member	Re: Upgrade time Reply #55 - 20.07.04 at 16:38:02 Too right matey I'm just gonna be chillin', playing UT2k4, bashing my Radeon 9500 PRO, havin' a Bud. Whaaaasssaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaap!
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Obi-Wan_Kenobi

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Re: Upgrade time
Reply #56 - 02.09.04 at 11:55:34

Well Ivé upgraded 1 of my 4 PC's.

Old set was:

AMD AthlonXP Barton 2600+
ASUS A7N8X2.0 Deluxe nVidia nForce2 ULTRA 400
2x 512MB PC-2700 Samsung Original onboard sound/Lan
Hercules 3D Prophet 9700 Pro 128MB DDR

Enermax 350 Watt PSU
Maxtor 120GB + 8MB Cache 7200 rpm PATA 133 HDD
Pioneer DVD 106 16x/48x DVD-Rom Player.
TEAC 540E 40x CD-Rom Player.
Sony 1.44MB 3,5"FDD !! WOW Grin

LIAN Li PC-65 USB ALuminium Case with side window.
yellow and blue Cool Neons.

New set has become:

AMD Athlon64 Clawhammer 3200+
MSI K8N Neo Platinum nVidia nForce3 250GB onboard Sound/Giga Lan
2x 512MB PC3200 Elixir/NANYA [seems to be same comapny]
Connect3D 9800 Pro 128MB DDR

I moved the Hercules 9700 Pro to my other system and the HDD, CD/DVD roms and other stuf remained in the same case.

My next system upgrade wil be this one:

old set:

AMD AthlonXP Thoroughbred-B 2700+
ASUS A7V333-R VIA Apollo KT-333
1 x 512MB PC-2700 NANJA

Leadtek Geforce4 Ti-4600 Rev A3 0241
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 PCI 64MB Rev A1 2900
samsung 1.44Mb 3,5"FDD
1x Maxtor 40GB 7200 rpm PATA 100
1x Maxtor 40GB 7200 rpm PATA 133
Creative SB Live Surround 1024
Add-Tronnic 6896A Entry level Server Case, good ol American stuff
Enermax 350 Watt PSU
Intel Pro 100/ S Desktop Adapter

new set:

AMD Athlon64 FX 53 Socket 939 version
MSI K8N Neo2 NF3 Ultra nVidia nForce3 ULTRA
4x 512MB PC-3200 Geil Cas2

and the parts like the SB live 1024 and net work card wil be replaced by the main board, because those parts are already onboard and the nForce3 Ultra gives way better sound than my old SB live 1024 Wink

and the oother parts like GeForce4 ti4600, Voodoo5 5500 PCI HDDs and so on will remain in case.

and my last system upgrade wil be this:

old set:

Dual AMD AthlonMP Thoroughbred A 2200+
ASUS A7M266-D Rev 1.02 Bios 1009
1x 1GB PC-2100 ECC Reg Twin-Moss.

Hercules 3D Prophet 9700 Pro
Creative SB Audigy2 Platinum
1x Samsung 1.44MB 3,5"FDD
1x Maxtor 40GB 7200 rpm PATA 133
1x Maxtor 60GB 7200 rpm PATA 133
3Com-3C905B-TX 10/100 MBit Fast Ethernet Adapter
Chieftec DA-01-BLD
Antec True Power 550 EPS12V

New set:

Dual AMD Opteron64 Sledgehammer 250
TYAN Thunder K8W AMD AM8000
8x 512MB PC-3200 ECC Reg. Twin-Moss

and the rest wil remain in case. the only part that wil be removed is the network card.

the Athlon 64FX will be the first thing happening this year and then the Opteron will rise 8)

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