What do you know about the ordinary 3Dfx V3 3K that has no tv-out?
What are the differences between the "ordinary" and the "no tvout" is it the bios? anythig else...

(I'm getting one soon, I had my brother to pick it up in another city but he'll be back in 1 week and I'm sooo curious)

i guess the bios is the same...why to edit the bios? without tv-out you cannot use the feature...

Well is it just the connector and tvout related components non soldered or what?
Visually it would be like a V3 2K with the big 3K heatsink...

Doesn't the 2K run at 143 and the 3K run at 166?

Visually the same perhaps :-/

gamma742 yea, by default. I heard somwhere that you can flash the video card v3 2k with the voodoo 3 3000, and it will increase from 143Mhz to 166Mhz.

I don't know this for sure, and I don't recomend it.

str..... dude, the voodoo 3 3000 TV-Out is more rare than the regular voodoo 3 3000 that has no tv out.

wrote on 15.09.05 at 11:36:40:

gamma742 yea, by default. I heard somwhere that you can flash the video card v3 2k with the voodoo 3 3000, and it will increase from 143Mhz to 166Mhz. I don't know this for sure, and I don't recomend it.

Wise advice as if the ram won't run at 166 mhz you may not be able to reflash the card back to 143 mhz spec.


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dude, the voodoo 3 3000 TV-Out is more rare than the regular voodoo 3 3000 that has no tv out.

I think you have it backwards- The V3-3000 AGP without TV is far more rare then a V3-3000 AGP with.

wrote on 15.09.05 at 15:00:07:

I think you have it backwards- The V3-3000 AGP without TV is far more rare then a V3-3000 AGP with.

Indeed. As far as I know the retail V3 3000 had TV-Out. An optional thing which the cheaper V3 2000 didn't have.

Let's make it clear:

"ordinary" 3dfx V3's:
V3 2K AGP has no tv-out and 143MHz
V3 3K AGP has tv-out and 166MHz

The one I'm getting (also 3dfx of course) is a:
V3 3K AGP with no tv-out and 166MHz

And in the matter of fact none of these are "rare" better said, the one I'm getting is just less common than the ordinary 3K with tv-out.
The ordinary 2K was just mentioned for comparison since it has an identical pcb and has no tv-out so by the looks it shoud be very similar to the 3K I'm getting (except for the heatsink)

wrote on 15.09.05 at 16:25:01:

The one I'm getting (also 3dfx of course) is a: V3 3K AGP with no tv-out and 166MHz

Was popular with OEM's due to lower cost since most people never used the TV out function.

Dell and Gateway were the two biggest buyers, but I have seen them in other machines as well.

Hmm... I'll phone the seller right away to ask where he got his piece.

--edit--

no answer, I'll call him later :P

Am I right, do PCI V3 cards have no holes around the GPU and AGP ones do?

wrote on 16.09.05 at 10:39:55:

Am I right, do PCI V3 cards have no holes around the GPU and AGP ones do?

The V3 PCI-cards with SD-RAM have holes around the GPU, the cards with SG-RAM don't have them.

That's it, SG-RAM PCBs don't have holes, you're right.

Positive... the guy who sold me the card stated that it was an OEM part in a system he bought.

Ok got the thing in my hands...
Actually it is a Dell Voodoo3 3000D
ordinary V3 3k with no tv-out and changed bios string

Hmm also 5,5ns ram... is that uncommon?

http://www.3dfx.cz/articles/rev.htm

That revision chart has several notable errors.

http://www.3dfxzone.it/enboard/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=717&whichpage=1

That's the topic where part of the revisions came from.
I doubt there are notable errors in there, it's based on real cards from those people.

wrote on 18.09.05 at 11:13:48:

That's the topic where part of the revisions came from.

A public web board as the main source of information?

Pardon me while I roll my eyes a bit.

Velocity 200- Sorry if it has a sticker that states "V3-1000" it's not a Velocity 200.

Voodoo 4 "4000" There is no VSA-100 "4000"

They don't have a single "week 30, 2000" Voodoo 4 prototype listed of which a few dozen are floating about.

V5-6000 - No 0700 listed, no 2600 listed, no 3900 listed

Rampage- date wrong but at least in gray indicating as such.

This is just the stuff that leaps out at me after a quick look.

I agree with what someone stated- There are some errors with the CZ site BUT more often then not they get it right so that is cool.

Sometimes it's hard to find a source to verifiy some piece of info, some folks will run with it others will not.

I tend to not since information flies around the internet at light speed and once a rumor or "stated fact" is started its difficult to undo.

I see.
But keep in mind, it was merely a reaction to st4r4m4m4 question if 5,5ns was uncommon.

Well ok I see that it is nothing uncommon...

Speaking of these listings and v3k AGP... I've got an early rev. C
1699 with Siemens 6ns ram

wrote on 18.09.05 at 15:51:29:

But keep in mind, it was merely a reaction to st4r4m4m4 question if 5,5ns was uncommon.

A 3000 with 5.5 ram is not standard but I have seen a number of 3000 so equipped (and a 2000 too)