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m14radu

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AAlchemy 8164
04.07.08 at 21:56:45

Today was the day.

My AAalchemy 8164 was layng around from some good months, so i decided to start it !

I used my Enermax power supply.
I know that the Power supply is far from that one used into the aalchemy servers. ( regarding ampere ) .
That 75A @2.9V is required in my opinion only if the server is fully equiped with 4AA cards, for the maximum consumption.
For just one card, the required power ( ampere ) should be not so high.
Can somebody measure the really needed ampere ? ( @ 8x or 16x load , with AA on) ?
That will be a really help for me.
Even the ampere is not enought, no damage can occur.....only the sistem may hang..

ok, let's continue..

After wiring the card, it came to the " emotional" moment..
The computer start whitout problems, the yeallow card LED is on.
Entering Windows.
PCI to PCI bridge is found and installed. The card is alive Cheesy

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I use Win XP, and afaik there is no XP driver for the platform.
Only for the Win2000k.

How can i test the card ?
only by installing the Win200 ?
The control panel show only the PCI to PCI bridge, and an unknow multimedia device ....
The critical point will be when the needed driver will be installed and the entyre card will work... Wink

Fotos will follow.
Regards.
Radu.

P.S. If you put only the card into the PCI slot ( whitout to suply it ), the card and sistem will not start. Not even boot.nothing..only black screen.
I asked long time ago if the card will be damaged if he is not supplyed.
The answer is no.
Only the bridge gets hot, but there is no damage.
I test that on my own card.

Many thanks to Rolo for providing the card Wink

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exxe God Member Offline ^^ Posts: 1316 germany	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #1 - 04.07.08 at 22:07:23 you can try the 2k driver on xp, maybe it work http://www.abload.de/img/aalchemyon9.jpg
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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #2 - 04.07.08 at 22:32:53 Do you have a link ? i can't find the driver !
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gamma742 God Member Offline 3Dfx Gamer Posts: 1668 San Diego, CA USA Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #3 - 05.07.08 at 00:36:50 I could email them to you...
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Re: AAlchemy 8164
Reply #4 - 05.07.08 at 02:42:17

m14radu wrote on 04.07.08 at 21:56:45:

That 75A @2.9V is required in my opinion only if the server is fully equiped with 4AA cards, for the maximum consumption.

Not true- The AA5 systems were never sold with 4 cards, only two max. Three boards in theory but never been tried I'm told.

Power consumption is 220-225 watts at idle, 285-290 watts running a demo at 120 volts AC with a single board and two P3 1.0 ghz.

Under load the power consumption jumps a lot, I'll try to do some retesting this week.

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gamma742 God Member Offline 3Dfx Gamer Posts: 1668 San Diego, CA USA Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #5 - 05.07.08 at 03:08:44 Does your enermax have a 2.9v output?
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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #6 - 05.07.08 at 09:03:28 Thanks for help gamma742 Unfortunately the drivers cannot be installed on XP. My Enermax only output 3.3V, but with a small change i also manged to output 2.7V. It's there any other posibility to test the card under XP ??
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exxe God Member Offline ^^ Posts: 1316 germany	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #7 - 05.07.08 at 10:07:17 http://quantum3d.com/ProductUpdates_AAlchemy.aspx
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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #8 - 05.07.08 at 11:09:03 Yep, i was there, but when i press "I AGREED", i got an error message: HTTP 404 - File not found The Page Cannot Be Found
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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #9 - 05.07.08 at 13:30:06 I installed Win2000. Now, the Quantum3D AA5 PCI is show in the device manager But i'm not able to start any application. Not even the glide test. I get an error message, the file glide3xr.dll is missing. any ideas ?
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Reply #10 - 05.07.08 at 14:16:08

m14radu wrote on 05.07.08 at 13:30:06:

But i'm not able to start any application. Not even the glide test.
I get an error message, the file glide3xr.dll is missing.

Assuming the drivers are installed right (you did install all service packs right? the Q3D drivers require minimum of SP3)

1) Card is bad.

2) Card doesn't have enough power to run.

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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #11 - 05.07.08 at 15:54:16 no, it is only the nacked Win2000. no SP.
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gdonovan YaBB Administrator Offline Infernal Collector Posts: 2361	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #12 - 05.07.08 at 17:07:36 m14radu wrote on 05.07.08 at 15:54:16: no, it is only the nacked Win2000. no SP. http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=DC27B8C6-2A5A-4399-AD3D... OR http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=1001AAF1-749F-49F4-8010...
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Re: AAlchemy 8164
Reply #13 - 05.07.08 at 17:12:13

yes, thanks.
i install them right now.

i notify also that there is no AALchemy display properties.
did i use a bad driver ?

The quantum3d page is not working, so that i'm not able to download them.
I use now the version 4.6.43.0.

The monitor cable is instaled on my Ti4200 card output, and not on the aalchemy output. It's that ok ?

Btw. there is another small conector on the power board ( 4 pins ).
What is that for ?

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exxe God Member Offline ^^ Posts: 1316 germany	Re: AAlchemy 8164 Reply #14 - 05.07.08 at 17:58:33 the aalchemy only outputs in 3d mode the AALchemy display properties are not at the place like the normal voodoo properties go to advanced or how ever it colled in english windows versions
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