http://www.shifter.sk/p1.jpg

..more info soon ;)

hmm it's abit slow, maybe useing thumbnails instead would be a better thing, cause it takes ages to load :-/

But good to see you have found something nice :P

..a little hint: this is the latest pre-production sample 8)

okay you fixxed it thanx :)

it's a custom AGP to PCI converter prototype ;) Well by the look's of things you can build these babies, nice go'n.

sorry for my nig nags :-X

As i can see it's PCB date is from week 25 year 2005 ;) The Force tell's me that  8)

fixed the pic.

Nice work lad, if you got more news, let us know, gotta blaze now, till tomorrah ;)

The Force Is With You PS47.

..and to be a bit more precise,its an agp2pci adaptor prototype for 3.3V Voodoo cards that will go to production soon.it was created by a czech techie guy I know ;)

I know who that may be ;) I'll PM you about it .

I'd buy one! :D

...even if I don't own a V5 6000 (which this is intended for). ::)

It's a really useful item! Nice one @PS47 8)

hehe it's usefull for all Voodoo cards withan 3.3 volt AGP :)

hmm I wonder if it would work with 1.5 volt cards like the Voodoo4-2 4800 AGP + TV-Out, Voodoo4 4800 AGP + TV-Out & DVI, Voodoo4 4500 AGP and some other cards like the Radeon 9700/9800 Pro's or even a GeForce4 Ti4600 for example.

the AGP x4 Universal cards like the ones I just mentioned are 1.5 volt based cards, it maybe usefull if this wonder device would support them also.

made this yourself?

though I remember one sold on ebay for a hefty price  :o

Heuw much for one?

:P

I reccon 80 Euro's , more would be overkill, in other words won't sell that well. It's a handy upgrade tool, onwhich many might think they might be sold at 250 + everyone would just sell thier Voodoo and go for an ATi. NV of Matrox card.


I would at least pay 80 for one if I had the money. PCB isn't that expensive afterall hehe.

oh gosh, for that price, way outta my league now

Think LOWER - we're not fat cats, so lets lose some monetary weight please! ;D

i need this adapter!!!

We all need this lovely toy :D this is really the dream we all 3dfx dudes have been waiting for  8) 8) 8) 8)

Mmm.. Yum  ;D

..in the meantime,lets have a look at few more pics ;)

the original agp2pci is being analyzed:
http://www.shifter.sk/type0.jpg


the first prototype:
http://www.shifter.sk/type1.jpg


the latest pre-production sample is undergoing testing (with an ati card this time :P):
http://www.shifter.sk/plug.jpg


http://www.shifter.sk/test.jpg

more later.. ;D

wauw the colours sure look nike like this:
http://www.shifter.sk/type0.jpg

would look great in windowed casemodded PC's :)
Nice pics Psycho47 ;)

sure good to have some UV lights on it.
fits well in a BAR

..the last prototype will be tested with v3 2000,v5 5500 and banshee in the next few hours.the final,and most important test with v5 6k will follow in next few days..

I sense it will work with any card, what about the AGP x8 cards like the X800XT PE AGP and X850XT PE AGP, will they fit in the adapter also?

Cause then we don't have to upgrade to PCI-Express while we still have those cards :)

And maybe AGP to PCI Express convertors might be possible also, to build then ;)

I doubt modern agp8x cards will work.the aim is to get agp 3.3V 3dfx cards running.modern cards would probably be possible as well,but this would require additional R&D,and we dont want this baby to cost several hundred dollars ;)

okay that I understand, but for speacial order, would it be possible?

heh it save alot of people money also. anyway it's cool for the 3.3volt users, but i possibly think there are more users in the world that use 1.5 volt AGP cards, so maybe a universal AGP to PCI ada[ter would be a better sollution so that 3.3 volt & 1.5 volt cards can be used.

well,technically,the agp slot on the AGP.5 (the official name of the adaptor) is universal.but many cards will not work correctly,as the video card drivers have sometimes problems recognizing the card when using the adaptor.riva TNT2 ran only in VGA mode for example..

wrote on 22.07.05 at 16:34:57:

I sense it will work with any card, what about the AGP x8 cards like the X800XT PE AGP and X850XT PE AGP, will they fit in the adapter also? Cause then we don't have to upgrade to PCI-Express while we still have those cards :) And maybe AGP to PCI Express convertors might be possible also, to build then ;)

Albatron introduced the ATOP (AGP8x to PCIe Bridge Card) in late may, it was told that the adaptor will be available in august.
Cards with AGP8x with an adaptor into a PCI-slot is a very bad idea even if it worked technically because the PCI-bus cuts the power of the modern cards dramatically.

..isnt the ATOP card only for geforce cards?

Hmm, until now the compatibility-list shows only NVidia-cards, that's right, but I don't think that this adaptor generates signals which can be only understood by NVidia-cards.
AGP8x is a standard, I don't think there are any special signals which makes the adaptor NVidia-only.

well the difference between PCI 32Bit and AGP x4 is only a margin of 5%, and PCI and AGP x8 has a a small margin of 7%, so it's harly noticable really :) So why not.

Uhm, PCI with 32 Bit and 33 MHz has a bandwidth of 133 MB/s while AGP4x has 2.1 GB/s and AGP8x 4.2 GB/s (all unidirectional) so the difference with cards which take advantage of the high bandwidth is very much higher than 5 or 7%.
Maybe the 5 or 7% apply to 3dfx-cards because they are not so powerful that they can take advantage of high bandwidths but with up-to-date cards the ratio is much more different.

About this adapter, am I missing something or is it a simple doublesided board?
If so I belive it is quite a simple circuit (but needs much work developing it anyway)

yes,the pcb is only doublesided,its simplier to make and it costs less.but no need to worry,the quality is very good (golden circuits and stuff ;))..

wrote on 22.07.05 at 19:13:29:

Uhm, PCI with 32 Bit and 33 MHz has a bandwidth of 133 MB/s while AGP4x has 2.1 GB/s and AGP8x 4.2 GB/s (all unidirectional) so the difference with cards which take advantage of the high bandwidth is very much higher than 5 or 7%. Maybe the 5 or 7% apply to 3dfx-cards because they are not so powerful that they can take advantage of high bandwidths but with up-to-date cards the ratio is much more different.

well I have proof from bench marks that AGP 4 and 8 has a 2% difference and PCI and AGP also just a margin of 2 to 5 %, it more like marketing tricks to be exact, I sell videocards in a PC shop, we test all kinds of sorts every day, and really the differenct is extreemly small.


well I did find a good sollution, this company sells all types of riser cards:
http://www.orbitmicro.com/products/riser%20cards/agp%20riser%20cards.htm

at the bottom right of that page there is an AGP2PCI adapter!!!!

AGPIX32

Bus Isolation Extender that allows user to test the AGP (Accelerated Graphics Port) add-on boards quickly.
http://www.orbitmicro.com/images/riser%20card%20images/thumbnails/AGPIX32%20%20thumb.jpg

yeah only 422,50$  ;D

http://store.orbitmicro.com/commerce/catalog/srhkeyword.cz?keyword=AGPIX32&Submit4=Search

..and I kinda doubt its agp 3.3V compatible..

well I have proof from bench marks that AGP 4 and 8 has a 2% difference and PCI and AGP also just a margin of 2 to 5 %, it more like marketing tricks to be exact, I sell videocards in a PC shop, we test all kinds of sorts every day, and really the differenct is extreemly small.

well Obi-Wan my results were much different, the v5 agp version in my home test couple years ago against 2 different v5 pci cards was way different, wasnt even close, and i dont think ive ever seen a v5 pci at the top in the 2001se test? to me the marketing hype is that pci is close to agp, ah just feelings on it.

im still working on my modded case but when its done ill test it all again

Quote:

yes,the pcb is only doublesided,its simplier to make and it costs less.but no need to worry,the quality is very good (golden circuits and stuff Wink)..

An ordinary doublesided pcb has indeed much lower cost than producting a multi-layer pcb
About qualitly as I see from the pics got nothing to complain, or better said: congats that's some fine piece of hardware hehe  :D

wrote on 23.07.05 at 00:56:19:

................... i dont think ive ever seen a v5 pci at the top in the 2001se test? ..............

well that is rather obvious hence that the Voodoo's don't have T&L support, really gary tested the Voodoo5 AGP and PCI the difference is between 3 and 5% .

I've had a GF FX 5200 AGPand PCI the difference between the two in UT 2003 was only 7% at the max and that for between AGP x8 and PCI lol.

but here angain, I don't buy VGA cards for just 3D mark2001SE, that's a very bad test imho, the games that you play like UT2004, Call Of Duty Quake3Arena FS 2004 just some examples, they really can tell the speed of your card not some silly benchmark which everyone believes in, sorry I'm not such a 3D Mark Fan anyway, it uses lot's of driver cheats also, onwhich has been reported many times lol.

well I cant agree with that.when I was running my radeon9800p in pci mode (agp disabled,due to outdated motherboard driver),the performance was awful..COD choked badly,I had low scores and performance in most games and benchmarks.installed the correct driver,agp got enabled,and everything was suddenly running like butter..so I would say,modern cards+AGP.5=bad idea,even if you were able to mod the drivers to get it working..

wrote on 23.07.05 at 09:50:15:

I've had a GF FX 5200 AGPand PCI the difference between the two in UT 2003 was only 7% at the max and that for between AGP x8 and PCI lol.

The 5200 is a low-end card, it doesn't take so much advantage of the higher bandwidth of AGP, the slow chip limits the performance too much.
If you put a Geforce 6800 or similar powerful card into a PCI-slot the difference will be much higher because the card gets too little data to process.

well that is rather obvious hence that the Voodoo's don't have T&L support, really gary tested the Voodoo5 AGP and PCI the difference is between 3 and 5% .

ah, Obi-Wan i was refering to the top 3dfx v5 cards, not all video cards, im not sure how everyone else is testing, i tested with a 2500 barton running at 2800 w/ the 333 fsb, now maybe i had two defective v5pci cards or maybe with a faster test platform the agp card is faster, as far as 2001se not working, it works fine to test two of the same cards from the same company with the difference being agp or pci

little side note, my 4000+ score came with a v4 agp, if the v5 pci was faster i would have left it in there

..just to make things clear,only the first prototype is doublesided,the final version (and the pre-production sample) has a four layer pcb.like I said,piece of quality hardware ;)

btw,that riser card Obi-Wan mentioned is not suitable for regular use.its a special riser that will allow you to switch graphics cards without powering down the pc,but it will certainly not allow you to run a 3.3V agp card in a pci slot..some info.

yeah sorry lads, got alittle mixed up here hehe

..figured its time for a small status report ;).some parts for the "final" pcbs had to be ordered from US,but the delivery is delayed terribly for reason unknown,so the progress is halted for now.but its only a minor setback,nothing serious..stay tuned..

..more updates.unfortunately,the parts from US have never arrived for reasons unknown.this does sound bad,but the additional time has been spent well.the last prototype was not able to run with another agp card in pc,this has been fixed.and more important,this is a major step in solving the v5 6k winxp problem (only one chip working when using an agp2pci under xp).so right now,additional R&D is taking place,delaying the "retail" product even further,but I say,its going to be well worth it ;)

stay tuned..

Thanx for the great news update ps47 we are all look'n forward to this project hehe. And by the looks of things, it sounds very exciting!! 8) 8) 8)

May The Force Be With Your project I really hope it's gonna be a bang for the buck also!

Maybe a AGP2PCI-Express x2/ x4 / x8/ x16 adapter could be made as the second model, so then a V56K can be used on PCI-Express mobo's also, or wouldn't that be a possibillity?

..that may happen in future far,far away ;D

let us wait for the agp5 first ;)

network card bracket hehe, but anyway the assembled ting sure looks great!

Yeps , I'll be looking forward to see them in action also.  8)

wrote on 30.10.05 at 22:38:05:

Thanx for the great news update ps47 we are all look'n forward to this project hehe. And by the looks of things, it sounds very exciting!! 8) 8) 8) May The Force Be With Your project I really hope it's gonna be a bang for the buck also! Maybe a AGP2PCI-Express x2/ x4 / x8/ x16 adapter could be made as the second model, so then a V56K can be used on PCI-Express mobo's also, or wouldn't that be a possibillity?

Here you are,, Albatron relaises the first PCIE to AGP Bridges.

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20050516113634.html



is there any new Info ps47 ?

wrote on 12.12.05 at 15:47:31:

Here you are,, Albatron relaises the first PCIE to AGP Bridges.

hmm nice for our GeForce and Radeon cards but not for our Voodoo AGP x2 3.3 Volt cards.

Albatron Releases PCI Express Bridge for AGP 8x Graphics Cards.

that ain't gonna work :-X
because AGP x8 is only reverse compatible with AGP x4 Universal cards with 1.5 volts that are cards  like the Voodoo4 4500 AGP 32MB the only usable card for those converters.

The Voodoo5 5000, 5500 & 6000 cards for example need to mork in AGP x2 AGP X4 universal slots that support 3.3 volt cards.

seems like you will need a low profile pcie card... now tell me, which pcie card with much power you want to use for agp  ::) lol

well it is cheaper than buying an entirely new card, I wasn't plannin got replace my XFX GeForce 6800GT AGP Dual DVI 256MB GDDR3 1.8ns Rev.A 3604 for like another year or so , and there may be more people that won;t do that.

So an AGP2PCI-E converter is a cheaper way to solve that problem, it's cheaper and much more sufficiant and in the most cases AGP x8 is faster than PCI-E x16, there are enough benchmarks to prove that. AGP x8 just has better support, there are still many bugs in PCI Express that's gonna take another year or 2 before that clears up and by far it's too expensive also so not that interesting for the most users.

re read my post again!

you need a low profile AGP card! 6800GT is not low profile!

woops , yeah I suppose I got confused, well it maybe modable hehe, that's where we tweakers come in to place 8)

yeah you just have to unsolder the VGA or DVI port  from your 6800GT ::)

think this adaptor is useless. there are good PCIe Boards out  there for just 60$

so what will the adapter cost? 30-40$? Too much!

big day today.the parts from US have finally arrived.that means all that needs to be fixed is that 6k+xp=single chip mode problem (still not done,but on a good way),and we are ready to roll ;D

This is the only way to get it working with new CPU. Find the server board with PCI express (66MHz), not PCIe. Then cross your fingers. The only issue that could happen is PCI IRQ routing.

KUDOS to the guys making the addapter, and stop bitching about the price. You do not like it take a bread board and wire wrap one yourself  :P

Hank

its just one guy ;) (not me of course,I cant even solder a broken off capacitor :P,I'm just lurking around and translating)

one more thing.the adaptor is NOT meant to work with any other card than 3dfx voodoo3 and voodoo5,and its only real purpose is to allow 6k users to run their behemoth of voodoo power in new motherboards.this adaptor is not an item of common use,just like the 6k.so the price might be a bit higher (certainly not $30-40).just like Hank said,stop moaning about the price,it wont help.bringing a homebrew piece of hardware to small production is not exactly cheap (and easy).and the purpose of this project IS NOT profit I would like to add,the guy is making it just for guns&glory..the price will be adequate,dont worry.nothing a 6k user (or even a 5.5k user like me) cant afford to pay ;)

great news...if the adapter gets final i want  to buy one...

the costs are secondary...

i am also interested (cause i fear loosing my 3dmark2001 world record ... lol  ;D .... no not reallly)

do you test this adaptor with a 6000 actually before selling them???

@ps47 and hanksemenec

YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY POST. i criticised the adapter which Obi W A N kenobi posted... NOT YOUR ADAPTOR!!!

@ Hank you mean PCI-X ;) heeh doesn't mean PCI express hehe  PCI -X means something else [and no i'm not confused with PCI-e either hehe]

But yeah a 64Bit PCI-X slot @ 66Mhz would be perfect, dunno about the 100Mhz & 133Mhz ones though.

there is a nice Quad Opteron board from Tyan with those beefy slots LOL ;D Quad Dual Core Opteron 880 & Voodoo5 6000 wiieeeee


Oh man come on That's gotta be HELS PELS REBELS euhm Hels. :o :o :o  ;D

wrote on 20.12.05 at 17:54:56:

i am also interested (cause i fear loosing my 3dmark2001 world record ... lol  ;D .... no not reallly) do you test this adaptor with a 6000 actually before selling them??? @ps47 and hanksemenec YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY POST. i criticised the adapter which Obi wahn kenobi posted... NOT YOUR ADAPTOR!!!

ok,I see,sorry.the adapter will be tested for 6k compatibility and will not be released before its 100% ok and working.as I said,the problem is not fixed yet,but its on a good path..

wrote on 20.12.05 at 17:54:56:

...Obi wahn kenobi...

lol...
hm...but i guess you are right ;)
(@obi: joke :P )

wrote on 20.12.05 at 21:15:56:

lol... hm...but i guess you are right ;) (@obi: joke :P )

oups, lol  ;D

wrote on 20.12.05 at 17:54:56:

i am also interested (cause i fear loosing my 3dmark2001 world record ... lol  ;D .... no not reallly) do you test this adaptor with a 6000 actually before selling them??? @ps47 and hanksemenec YOU MISUNDERSTOOD MY POST. i criticised the adapter which Obi W A N kenobi posted... NOT YOUR ADAPTOR!!!

I sense there seems to be a Problem, please explain...

Thank you.

problem? where?

i only said that i do not see many advantages in the PCIexpress -> AGP adaptor you've posted before.

But lets stick back to the topic: AGP-> PCI adaptor

oh okay , well i didn't say it would be effective only liked the idea :)

Great News PS47.

i hope, the price will be a modorate one, that everyone can afford it.

The person who produce these cards is already a super hero in our thought ;)

lets just hope he will be able to fix that 6k/xp/single chip problem ;)

Just use Win2K Pro + SP4 and gone the problem is, it's just that 2K is faster and way more stable and reliable than that treacherous XP Pro :-X

Remmber that 3dfx never made driver for XP so it will always remain and seen as a problem.

Never like XP anyways, it looks wrong and it's so slow to work with lot's of crap running in the background morely a senseless OS, it's that after Win2K Pro things went backwards @ MS.

Sorry that I wacked abit out but my experience with XP is just bad and I've heard that from many other 3dfx people, anyways maybe there might be a sollution for this but for me Win98SE & 2KPro will be the best OSes for 3dfx. XP is better for new stuff.

peek a boo.spoke to the author few minutes ago,he is still working hard ;)

The preview section pics look kinda... "tasty"  :D :D

where is the buy button?

ja wö ist die kauf knoppe hehe  yeah I have been think'n about  that for quite some time :)

Anyways PS47 when yer ready let us know ;)

Tjuus ;)

ok I have no clue what was it in dutch, but I can do a babel fish translation perhaps  ::)

wrote on 12.02.06 at 00:32:47:

where is the buy button?

the same.

wrote on 12.02.06 at 00:44:29:

ja wö ist die kauf knoppe hehe

ROFL

you're the king http://www.ugly-smilies.de/data/uglyking.gif

Hay Ed that was German aka Deutch nicht holländisch ;) lol

anyways It's 2006 now I wonder if this project is gonna be continued, we all surely hope so :)

oo-key.we have first tests:

Testbed:
A64 3000+
1GB PC3200 RAM (Corsair CL2.5, dualchannel)
EP-9NPA+ (nF4U, 6.70)
X1800XL (secondary, C6.3)
AGP.5 (prototyp for PCI 2.3, 3.3V)
Voodoo 5 5500 64MB AGP (AM3.0XP)
Riva TNT2 M64 32MB AGP (30.82)
WinXPProSP2

there are few problems with the voodoo5,the transparency and lightning is all screwed up.seems like the driver has some problems..well see if SFFT performs better.

results:
Voodoo 5 5500 64MB AGP@PCI
3DMark2000 1.1 3566 (Game1, Game 2)
3DMark2001SE 330 1532 (Game1, Game 2, Game 3, Game 4 skiped)

Riva TNT2 M64 32MB AGP@PCI
3DMark2000 1.1 1814 (Game1, Game 2)
3DMark2001SE 330 654 (Game1, Game 2, Game 3, Game 4 skiped)

do you have a releasedate?

Just 2 quick questions: Are textures wrong with the Akiba AGP2PCI as well or is it a problem of the AGP.5? Does the riser work correctly with reference drivers?

great work ps47!!! well the thing is you got it work'n only it needs to be cleared up alittle more since that a ordinary 5500 PCI scores alot more hehe but hey look'n good for now keep it up! :D

May The Force be With You on this one!

akiba agp2pci doesnt have those problems,but agp5 is quite different (to avoid copyright issues,and dont forget we want it to run all 4 vsa-100s under 2000/xp).as for the release date-when its done ;)

yeah but if the performance is worse than a voodoo4 4500 what would be the advatage of it?

but still I hope that the performance will get better hehe I'm sure it will everything takes time :) when it's done lol, I'd say in like end of this year :) Hope you get it gett'n faster but hey it's a first test run and be happy it works.

Maybe a check list of all AGP5 compliant  motherboards might be an idea as well so if somebody has a brand new ASUS A8R32 MVP Deluxe with CorssFire X1900 XTX they can add the AGP5 adapter and game with thier VoodooBanshee, 3 4 and 5 cards in that slot withour probs that would be amazing hehe.

My X1900 XTX system is gonna have that setup one day hehe

What about win98 and reference drivers?

not tested yet.the goal is 2000/xp,I assume once that works at 100% win98 will works as well..

oh btw,the forum is up and running ;)

Thanks for the info! Hope the final product will be available soon.

I'm sure you won't lets 3dfx fans down ps47 you're do'n great lad :)

hey,I'm just a messenger,nothing more ;)

all thanks should go to the real author (I'm pretty sure hell be hanging around the agp5 forum :))..

..small update: v5 agp on agp5 has been tested with SFFT Driver Alpha 36:

3DMark2001SE 330 1451 (Game1, Game 2, Game 3, Game 4 skiped)

no problems with transparency, textures or lightning,everything is working fine :)

maybe it is possible to bench a normal 5500 pci and a 5500 agp @ pci...so we can compare the evolution of the agp2pci-process...

hey.me and the czech 3dfx guys are throwing a little party this saturday (this time only rare cards are going to be dragged along ;D),and gues what,the latest prototype of agp5 will be present too.drool drool.

Pity I can't stop in for a visit =)

we will dedicate one round to you ;) (aww my english sux ::).ok,heres whats going to happen: everybody lifts a glass 'o beer and says: yo! on Garys health! and down goes the beer ;D)

So you pobably had an encounter with the AGP5... Any impressons?

please take many pictures of your event!

;D

wrote on 08.04.06 at 18:50:04:

maybe it is possible to bench a normal 5500 pci and a 5500 agp @ pci...so we can compare the evolution of the agp2pci-process...

hmm good idea Chosen_One yeah that would be a better way to see what performs faster, cause 1451 points isn't much , but I'm sure there are lot's of bugs to be cleared, so far so good ps_47!!

@ ps_47

Was that a crate or 2 ? hehe

the first gallery is up and running at 3dfx.cz forum,but you need to be a registered user in order to view it..few samples:

ps47 (right) with full t-buffer support (motion blur&depth of field.the guy in the middle has hosted the whole party,the guy at the left has driven me halfway home ;D):
http://www.3dfx.cz/articles/sraz2.5/SA500081m.jpg


right out of the matrix,the Neo of czech techie movement,agp5 in his backpack.guess who.
http://www.3dfx.cz/articles/sraz2.5/SA500093m.jpg


3500tv is really hard to use under xp:
http://www.3dfx.cz/articles/sraz2.5/SA500048m.jpg


ooo-key,the party was quite short (6hrs),but quite fun,free 3dfx talk as usual,quake2 powered by 3dfx deathmatch,and fooling around with a 8Mhz stoneage pc pulled out of a junk heap.and some really good czech food too (if you played soldier of fortune2,you may remember that Mullins asked for some "polevka" in one of the first cutscenes [polevka=soup],and the guy after the bar replied with "would you like to have svickova instead?" and Mullins answered "no,the polevka was highly recommended." well guess what,Mullins is an idiot,if you happen to be in CZ sometime in the future,you should definitely go for svickova.and if the bartender asks you if you would like to have something else,just reply with "no,the svickova was highly recommended" ;)).

the agp5 prototype looks sweeet.right now,no one can really tell why it slows down the agp card so much (in theory,it just shouldnt happen,but sometimes things just dont go as smooth in the real world),this is going to be analyzed thoroughly (Ren has received 5 more 3dfx cards so he'll be able to compare pci and agp5 performance himself).

I was feeling kinda weird last few days before the party,and guess what,some weird cr@p happend to my throat (virus? infection? no one will ever know) making me sound like a retarded hybrid of gollum and vortigaunt that has been castrated by a stone brick for all the rest of the party.at the end of the day,I have totally lost my voice and havent recovered yet.it is quite fun,in a way,when people ask me whats up with me not answering and stuff all I can give them for reply is I have losst my preciouss..kch kch,voiccce..in a really hissy and sneaksy way ::)

being able to type down everything I want to say never felt so good ;)

hey ps47 I hope you recover soon mate, that Neo guy really could be a good role for Neo in Matrix IV if that one will ever get out haha :D

but hey what also got my mind is how you guys painted the heating pipes in your room very deccorative!

And congratulations on that AGP5 project, man I'm just astonnished that you get ém work'n! Crikey rather amazing that is works, should be at least happy that they work man :)

but that they work much slower than AGP and PCI might be because that thier bus speed don't run @ 66Mhz, have you tried them in a 64Bit 66Mhz PCI Slot? that may be an idea for better performance, just an idea to help out, personally I have never built something electronnic , so just think'n out loud there mate.

But about your throat please go see a doctor as you can see there are many strange deseases go'n on in this strange world we live in   :'( :'( this Wednesday for me is gonna be scary as well have to go to the Hospital in Rotterdam for a MRI Scan, the lumps in my leg got bigger instead of smaller, so when I walk around I feel a little unballanced.

May Your Friend's AGP5 Project be a great Success and

May The Force Be With You Always,

Jedi Master,

Obi-Wan Kenobi.

P.S.

Oh your gallery does not work it's all in Czech and I have to log in, I suppose others have the same prob, cheers.

wrote on 17.04.06 at 18:28:58:

the first gallery is up and running at 3dfx.cz forum,but you need to be a registered user in order to view it.

;)

the problem with agp5 lies elsewhere.I mean,a small performance hit is expected (because the card is running at pci speed),but that shouldnt be more than 5-10%.well see..


edit: forgot to throw in the latest pic of agp5 from the party:

http://www.3dfx.cz/articles/sraz2.5/SA500062m.jpg

ready to rumble.well se what hogs this piece of art,sooner or later ;D

hmm very nice peace of enginering ps47, absolutely brlliant to be precise  8)

hmm I see that the AGP connector has a sort of white white lever, hmm is that to lock the card into possition?

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(if you played soldier of fortune2,you may remember that Mullins asked for some "polevka" in one of the first cutscenes,and the guy after the bar replied with "would you like to have svickova instead?" and Mullins answered "no,the polevka was highly recommended." well guess what,Mullins is an idiot,if you happen to be in CZ sometime in the future,you should definitely go for svickova.and if the bartender asks you if you would like to have something else,just reply with "no,the svickova was highly recommended" ).

Good thing you included a pic. I thought it was some home brew. I've heard you guys have some wicked powerful drinks over there.

you bet.it burns holes in people ;D.I'm not really much into drinking though (this is my personal favorite drink.it resembles cola a bit,but its not as sweet..funny thing is that I actually dont like the bottled "originals" as much as the draught ones you can get in every decent pub.hope I used the word "draught" correctly ::))..and I can really enjoy good food,and I'm stating to look it ::)

oh btw, "polevka" is simply soup.added to the first post to avoid the drink<->food confusion ;)

wrote on 19.04.06 at 09:12:23:

you bet.it burns holes in people ;

Well now! Slivovica and HW modding :D What a combo. Last time I tried that I burned the best Duron Spitfire CPU that I had. It went from 700Mhz to 1.1 Ghz, and then, when I connected it accidentaly to +12V, it went to garbage can ;D I still remember the bitter-sweat taste in my mouth after that. It was a 65% alcohol home brew sljivovica... Never drink and drive, and never, ever drink and mod (I learned that the hard way)  8)

we did not drink ;).q2 deathmatch is a better way how to raise your adrenaline..

65%? you are lucky that the CPU is the only thing that blew,new kidneys are not that cheap ;D.homebrews are a real killer.

wrote on 19.04.06 at 10:38:45:

we did not drink ;).q2 deathmatch is a better way how to raise your adrenaline.. 65%? you are lucky that the CPU is the only thing that blew,new kidneys are not that cheap ;D.homebrews are a real killer.

Speaking of which, have you ever tried to play Quake or UT after a few beers or sliva? It's one hell of a sight and an experience never to forget!  ;D
Hint: Try using rocket launcher after drinking in Q2

or even worse, try to to aim strait with a Rail Gun LoL hahaha that's fun also  ;D ;D ;D

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3500tv is really hard to use under xp: http://www.3dfx.cz/articles/sraz2.5/SA500048m.jpg

I´m alive :)

How exactly does this agp to pci adapter work???
P.S. $20 U.S. dollars sounds like a fair price for the adapter.

where did you hear this price?
20 US$ sounds very low...

this is a very special hardware made for a very special purpose.the price will be nowhere near $20..but very acceptable for someone who had juiced out $1000 for the 6k ;)

I'd say 250 Euro's would be normal :) like the PPU the Physics Processing Unit card is also very speacial only not well supported yet.

250 Euro's would be a nice price :)

Do remember that the Voodoo5 6000 won't work on every Mobo, so that might be with the AGP5 card as well. so it still may be a large risk to use with a 6K, then again you could use a 5000 & 5500 AGP in it, though then I rather choose for a 5000 or 5500 PCI card, to get the same idea.

would a Voodoo5 6000 work wel in an ASUS A7V333-R Rev.1.02 in the AGP port, well answer in no, I wounder what the answer will be with the AGP5, this is one of the things I fear when useing a V6K wel over the 1000 Euro's with a converter card which isn't that well known for use in such a bord.

so even if it would cost like 800 euro's for as en example and you use your 6000 with it on a bord where the 6000 would not cope in the original AGP port of the mobo it's self and that the 6K will die in the AGP5 port that is alsways a risk which still might be in the way.

The HiNT chip is very fragile, if the card dies because the the mobo it's in with the AGP5 adapter we are still nowhere. Who knowns what will happen with a Voodoo5 6000 AGP in the AGP5 on a ASUS A8R32MVP Deluxe bord, I'm not so sure on how that will pack out, wil the 6K fail or will it just proceed?

I just hope it's 100% fail safe.

wrote on 20.05.06 at 13:08:43:

I just hope it's 100% fail safe.

Read the user manual available on the site.

could there be a second adapter that will be a universal agp to pci  adaper that will be around let's say... the cheap range? It would be nice to have a 5500agp on every machine
without agp.

hmm true I agree there but there are still enough Voodoo5 5500 PCI's around to solve that prob though, unless you can't get one ofcourse, the idea is well thought ;)

..the price should be around $100,but thats only a (very) rough estimation.

hmm that's well worth one allrighty :)

Any news on the adapter's testing rounds ps47?

hehe still would be amazed to see some benchmark results even with a Voodoo5 5500 AGP or a 6000 AGP if possible :)

Hey ps47 any news on the AGP5 haven't heard much of it really, if they are kinda work wel with a 6000 we'd like to be updated about that!

;)