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Message started by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 10.02.05 at 00:13:15

Title: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 10.02.05 at 00:13:15
How many Voodoo5 proto's were there, well here the ones I do know of:

3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 Rev.A0 3300
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 AGP x4 Rev.A0 3700
3dfx Voodoo5 5000 PCI Rev.A1 0900

3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP Rev.A1 4199 the Comdex 1999 card.
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP Rev.A0 1400 AGP x2 prototype
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP x4 Rev.A1 3300 no DVI
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP x4 Rev.A2 3700 no DVI
3dfx Voodoo5 5500 AGP x4 Rev.A2 3300 + DVI

3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 4999-41 2x2 card with Intel Bridge chip. Comdex 1999 Prototype

Intel Revision series.
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A0 0700
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1500
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1700
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1900

Hint Series 1
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A2 2600 with 5,4 ns ram
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A2 2600
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A2 2700

Hint series 2
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3400
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3500

Hint Series 3
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A 3600
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A 3700
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 3700
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A2 3700
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3700 with 5,4 ns Ram
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A 3900 ??? dunno heard it from an aussie

as far as I know these are all the Voodoo5 proto's if there are more, please fill in the listing :)

Here the funny part,  I couldn't find any listings of photo's of Voodoo5 5500 PCI proto cards,wierd huh  ::)

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by omega_supreme on 10.02.05 at 00:18:11
That about covers it.

Although Ive heard about:  3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A2/3 3000 . But thats only one time I read about it. Just like the 1900: Ive never seen it, just somebody mention the number.

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 10.02.05 at 00:27:48
Cool , a  Rev.A3 3000 would be more in the right way :)

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Hiero on 13.02.05 at 17:57:08
Rev A0
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A0 0700     6ns Hyundai

Rev A1
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1500      5,4ns Toshiba
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1700  not confirmed
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1900  not confirmed

Rev A2
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A2 2600    5,4ns Toshiba

Rev A3
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3000   not confirmed
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3400    5,4ns Toshiba
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3700 (confirmed) ns?

Rev A
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A 3700   6ns Hyundai
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A 3900 (confirmed) 6ns

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by edmundoab on 15.02.05 at 00:20:00
the Rev A has slower ram? hmm..
must have ran out of Toshiba ones

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Hiero on 21.02.05 at 21:13:16
No that was not the reason. 6000 even in the final rev were not stable, so 3dfx thought the problem was caused by the clock frequency. But even with 166MHz unstability was not wiped out. The PCI Rework which was developed too late solved that problem and makes it now possible to clock normal finals with 6ns even at frequencies as 190MHz. (the vsa's are selected ones which are predestinated to do at least 183MHz) so the memory is actually the bottleneck now. That's also why older revisions are liked.
The optimum would of course be a final revision with faster memory.

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by edmundoab on 21.02.05 at 23:56:50
You must be the same hiero looking for a REV 1 in the ezboard forums.
Any luck so far?

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Hiero on 22.02.05 at 11:00:41
Hi,
That's right. Normally I'm on Voodooalert but as I got a special interest in 6000 topics I also visit all other 3dfx boards.
Unfortunately noone seems to sell his A1. On a picuture I saw that clay had several of these revs but I don't know who got them now. There a lot of 6000 owners which aren't active in any boards probably.

On x3dfx I already stated that I can't use a final in my system as it would probably cause a latch up. But that might be different with Rev A2 / Rev A3. Has anybody tried these revs in latch up boards ?

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by gamma742 on 23.02.05 at 04:17:50

wrote on 13.02.05 at 17:57:08:
Rev A0
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A0 0700     6ns Hyundai

Rev A1
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1500      5,4ns Toshiba
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1700  not confirmed
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A1 1900  not confirmed

Rev A2
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A2 2600    5,4ns Toshiba

Rev A3
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3000   not confirmed
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3400    5,4ns Toshiba
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A3 3700 (confirmed) ns?

Rev A
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A 3700   6ns Hyundai
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP Rev.A 3900 (confirmed) 6ns



Which is newer, Rev.A3 3700 or Rev.A 3900?

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by sloomy on 23.02.05 at 09:33:45
Can a V5 6K intel rev. also used with internal Hook Up's?  Or only with external Power Supply ?


Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Rolo01 on 23.02.05 at 11:12:14
As far as I know the Intel revisions do NOT have soldering holes for the internal hook-up. So you are limited to the power brick...

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 23.02.05 at 12:41:21
hmm I do remember that some bloke in Germany had a Rev.A1 1500 with an internal hookup, I saw it once at voodooalert.de, was a long time ago though since a saw that.

I'll do must by finding that picture again, May The Force Be With Us on this one  ;)

Well I searched the whole voodooalert.de site and no result , then i was 3dfxzone.it

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by omega_supreme on 23.02.05 at 14:08:11
The Internal hookup can only be applied on A2 or higher builds. The intels have voltage regulators on the place where Hank attaches the internal wires (well sort of, I know it's not exactly the same....).  



@ Obi-Wan_Kenobi:

I think you meant Rolo's old connector. I remember Rolo made a connector for his four pin powerconnector. VMAN once uploaded the pinout for that connector. I may still have that image on my HDD. I could not find any picture of it since voodooalert seems to be offline since yesterday. Anyway I think Enrico got it from Rolo to use it for a 1500. Ironically nobody seemed to have the nerves to really test it :D

Title: Re: A list of all Voodoo5  Prototypes....
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 23.02.05 at 16:49:15
well here it is !



and here the Pin layout:


That's the cable Omega Supreme meant :) The Force is with us again!

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