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Message started by bucksavage on 27.08.10 at 04:48:50

Title: A question about ram
Post by bucksavage on 27.08.10 at 04:48:50
I have a question: 

Was PC133 SDRAM ever made in a 1gb stick?  If so, then I have something to scrounge for sometime down the line, if not, then I won't waste my time looking. 

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by exxe on 27.08.10 at 08:19:58
yes, but most its REG ECC Server memory.


Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by razrx on 27.08.10 at 13:14:29
I concur with exxe.  After a quick search on ebay there aren't many non-ecc 1gb auctions vs ecc auctions.
Good luck in your search!

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by Tim on 27.08.10 at 20:32:07

bucksavage wrote on 27.08.10 at 04:48:50:
I have a question: 

Was PC133 SDRAM ever made in a 1gb stick?  If so, then I have something to scrounge for sometime down the line, if not, then I won't waste my time looking. 


Do you really need 1GB of Ram on a PC133 platform anyway?  :-?  :)

What are you going to use it for? :)

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by elfuego on 27.08.10 at 21:23:31

Tim wrote on 27.08.10 at 20:32:07:

bucksavage wrote on 27.08.10 at 04:48:50:
I have a question: 

Was PC133 SDRAM ever made in a 1gb stick?  If so, then I have something to scrounge for sometime down the line, if not, then I won't waste my time looking. 


Do you really need 1GB of Ram on a PC133 platform anyway?  :-?  :)

What are you going to use it for? :)


Not one, but three GB of RAM. I tested it and it works on Abit KT7-a V1.3, though only in 100Mhz mode even if the RAM itself is 133mhz certified. No amount of tinkering helped so I placed 3x512mb that worked at 145mhz.

RAM is always good to have - you can profit out of it also in DOS - just create RAMdrive and enjoy an ultra-fast disk drive :-)

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by bucksavage on 28.08.10 at 06:56:17
Well of course the reason would be 3gb of RAM, cause, well it's 3GB of RAM!  My motherboard maxes out at 3gb of RAM.  Just a thought.  But it'd be handy.  I'd use it for gaming, mostly. 
My other specs are:
P4 1.4 Willamette CPU
Nvidia GeForce4 Ti 4200 vid card
Win XP SP3

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by ultima on 28.08.10 at 09:57:31
You'd use it for gaming?? Sorry, but on that kind of rig, there is no way you would need 3GB of ram for gaming.

1st of all, gaming is done on the videocard mostly, and if you set the resolution and other options so high that it needs more then the 128MB the Ti4200 has, then yer probably gonna be looking at a fast forward slideshow.

The ram would come in handy if you were to decide to run rendering programs, that can actually make use of that amount, but for gaming....

But I do agree with you on the fact that more ram is always welcome, the only time I've seen the more ram being a problem was last with win98, where more then 512MB could actually start generating errors, cause 98 couldn't handle it.

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by Tim on 28.08.10 at 10:10:22
The first time I needed more then 1Gb of Ram was with BF2 I believe.  :P

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by exxe on 28.08.10 at 11:40:06
Socket 423 or 478 ?

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by ultima on 28.08.10 at 14:04:58

Quote:
P4 1.4 Willamette CPU


A P4 Willamette is per definition a socket 423 cpu.

P4 socket 478 is northwood and later on the what ya ma call em.

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by Drakan Player on 28.08.10 at 23:42:14

ultima wrote on 28.08.10 at 14:04:58:

Quote:
P4 1.4 Willamette CPU


A P4 Willamette is per definition a socket 423 cpu.

P4 socket 478 is northwood and later on the what ya ma call em.


Willamette found it's way on to 478 as well for a short time before northwood had been introduced onto the market. Intel moved to 478 to reduced manufacturing costs while moving back to SDR ram till they could get their first DDR chipset rolled out once the agreement with Rambus had expired. 423 was over all a failure sure it had good bandwidth performance but the ram it's self had terrible timings (40ns) which was 4 times that of SDR. It gave the cpu 3.2gb/s for every 100mhz clock and was a match for the performance of the fsb. However after losses 2.7gb/s was common depending on the quality of the board. Socket 370 and 478 had limited RDRAM support such as the 820 and the 850/855 but they were short lived. 604 maintained support for a few years. Back to the p4, first gen sucked performance wise due to the fpu. A 1.3ghz p4 had the performance of a 800mhz p3 in most apps and games. The p4 wasn't a all the way upgrade till it had hit 1.8ghz to make up for the losses. So that is why the 1.4ghz p3 was popular in many areas from servers to gaming rigs at that time. Hell I got a p3 still rocking down stares.   

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by razrx on 29.08.10 at 00:18:38
Hey

What is your motherboard make and model?  I have some extra P4 CPUs.  You can have one if it will work with your board.

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by bucksavage on 29.08.10 at 05:11:22
Ok to answer earlier questions:  my cpu is a socket 478 mPGA with:
Data Cache L1 :8 KB

Trace Cache L1 :12 Kµops
Cache L2 :      256 KB


as for a extra P4 cpu, I'm not sure of the manufacturer of my board but it is an Intel D845HV with an Intel i845chipset.  And what do you want for it/them?  I'm kinda broke at the moment....but I could probably come up with something. 

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by razrx on 29.08.10 at 16:42:27
I found your motherboard manual here: http://download.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/D845hv/hvwn_English.pdf

It states the following about your AGP slot: • AGP connector supporting 1.5 V 4X and 2X AGP cards  -----> Not Voodoo compatible....

Anyway, here's your list of supported CPUs: http://www.intel.com/support/motherboards/desktop/d845hv/sb/cs-008811.htm

Looks like this is a 400MHz FSB only.  So I have a Celeron 2.0 or a P4 2.4GHz chips.

If you want, I have some P4 533/400MHz FSB boards with a 2.53GHz CPU.

Send me a PM for details.

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by bucksavage on 30.08.10 at 03:31:22
Sent you a detailed PM.  Be warned, it's pretty verbose.  lol

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by razrx on 30.08.10 at 17:03:13
no worries.  I think you're almost there.  :)

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by elfuego on 06.09.10 at 19:34:00

bucksavage wrote on 29.08.10 at 05:11:22:
... I'm kinda broke at the moment....

...meaning that the 1GB SDRAM rigs are out of your price range anyway. They cost too much to be "tried out", believe me. Check the ebay. Sux...  :-/

Title: Re: A question about ram
Post by bucksavage on 07.09.10 at 02:57:09
No worries.  I mostly wanted to find out if they even exist.  I've managed to get the 3 sticks I have for surprisingly little money, and one stick for free actually, so if I ever come across any, I'll know whaty to expect.  thx

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