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AGP.5 Release.
13.03.12 at 10:44:55

Hello at all,

AGP.5 RELEASE:

PCB and mounting kit is ready for starting.

Components are in route.

How many 3Dfx people can be interested to buy one adpater agp2pci?

FIRST EDITION - CLOSED

ADDED 09/07/2012:

NOTES:
First batch of 5 samples started.
Design will be the same. Not changes as you can see in the pictures below.
Possibly in the future a new rev. will be done with some features, new pcb color, new slogan, new jumpers set 66MHz...

5 samples sold

Price 125Euros + shipping. If payment is done via paypal. Fees will be for the buyer.

PICTURES AGP.5 PCB ALREADY BUILT:

COMPONENTS SENT FOR SOLDERING:

Problems for soldering the agp connector.Pins has been bended.

From here I want to say thanks Michel for his help. He sent me all his agp5 adapters for testing them and check how they work. In the begining we started this project togheters but he left it for personal reason.

ADDED 10/07/2012

AGP.5 READY

BATCH 5 SAMPLES

FRONT

REAR

AGP.5 TESTING

AGP.5 adapter works perfect in PCI slot as PCI-X how you can see in the pictures below.

PCI SLOT

AGP.5+PCI-X2PCIe

3DMARK2001SE - AGP.5+PCI-X2PCIe - 1856 66MHz enabled pin49b masked.

SECOND EDITION:

- AGP.5 LE TURBO
- New PCB design
- 66MHz enabled by default
- Limited Edition - Desgined for V5-6000 users.
- And more...

And the most important- price for adpater will be 75Euros. Batch of 15 samples.

Best regards,
Oscar.

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Loeschzwerg Senior Member Offline AAlchemy PSU maker :-) Posts: 396 Germany -> Bavaria -> Augsburg Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #1 - 13.03.12 at 12:16:16 Great news Well, this is depending on how much the total kit will cost. What sort of price do you have in mind?
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RaverX God Member Offline Voodoo2 fan Posts: 533 Oradea, Romania Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #2 - 13.03.12 at 12:31:11 Loeschzwerg wrote on 13.03.12 at 12:16:16: Great news Well, this is depending on how much the total kit will cost. What sort of price do you have in mind? I couldn't said it any better
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Re: AGP.5 Release.
Reply #3 - 13.03.12 at 12:34:18

Loeschzwerg wrote on 13.03.12 at 12:16:16:

Great news

Well, this is depending on how much the total kit will cost. What sort of price do you have in mind?

Main problem is to start to produce the first batch is has high cost for the fixed costs plus all the components.

[screen + programming] & [PCB preparation costs]

If there are people interested price would low very easy if only there is one person range price can be between 100-150Euros.

The idea would be to sell those adapter between 60-75Euros inside 3Dfx community if really there is people interested here.

- Oscar.

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Loeschzwerg Senior Member Offline AAlchemy PSU maker :-) Posts: 396 Germany -> Bavaria -> Augsburg Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #4 - 13.03.12 at 12:39:13 60-75€ for a small series inside the 3dfx com would be great, it's a fair price 150€ are still ok for a first batch of the adapters. If you want to make some single prototypes prices can go up very easily to 300€
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trevormacro God Member Offline Voodoo5k6 Gold SE, Legend & Mystical Edition Posts: 622 Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #5 - 13.03.12 at 13:11:46 Good news oskhar
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Gemail Junior Member Offline Posts: 84	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #6 - 14.03.12 at 15:13:47 IIRC original AGP5 needs a 3.3V PCI slot (like PCI-X) to be plugged in to. The lines are routed directly from PCI to AGP, and 5V signaling like found in the vast majority of motherboards will damage the video card.
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Re: AGP.5 Release.
Reply #7 - 14.03.12 at 16:13:34

Gemail wrote on 14.03.12 at 15:13:47:

IIRC original AGP5 needs a 3.3V PCI slot (like PCI-X) to be plugged in to. The lines are routed directly from PCI to AGP, and 5V signaling like found in the vast majority of motherboards will damage the video card.

Yes, you are right.

AGP2PCI is universal, works with both 5V and 3.3V signaling. To make AGP.5 would necessary a complicated construction design, so Ren decided to omit it.

AGP.5 only will work PCI 3.3v (PCI-x) giving 66MHz support.

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Oscar.

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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #8 - 14.03.12 at 19:37:35 Great news Osckhar I am interested for one piece...depending on the final price ! Let's see how many are interested !
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Varus Full Member Offline recent 3dfx enthusiast Posts: 164 Poland Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #9 - 14.03.12 at 21:26:32 Hello I'm interested too. One piece. Best Regards, Lukas
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Re: AGP.5 Release.
Reply #10 - 14.03.12 at 22:16:05

osckhar wrote on 14.03.12 at 16:13:34:

Gemail wrote on 14.03.12 at 15:13:47:

IIRC original AGP5 needs a 3.3V PCI slot (like PCI-X) to be plugged in to. The lines are routed directly from PCI to AGP, and 5V signaling like found in the vast majority of motherboards will damage the video card.

Yes, you are right.

AGP2PCI is universal, works with both 5V and 3.3V signaling. To make AGP.5 would necessary a complicated construction design, so Ren decided to omit it.

AGP.5 only will work PCI 3.3v (PCI-x) giving 66MHz support.

Best regards,
Oscar.

Looking at the pictures of the prototype, I see the 5V key slot is open. I recommend blocking that off on the production units to keep it safe from accidental insertion into a 5V PCI slot.

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Re: AGP.5 Release.
Reply #11 - 14.03.12 at 23:27:33

The adapter will work in PCI 5V and 3.3V slots Wink

Why? Simply because the I/O voltage pins aren't used within Ren's adapter design Wink

Take a look at the pinout:
http://pinouts.ru/Slots/PCI_pinout.shtml (difference between 3.3V and 5V PCI)

And now take a look at the eagle layout of Ren's adapter. The adapter does have it's own powersupply and it generates the 3.3V (needed for 3dfx cards) out of 5V provided either over a molex or via the PCI bus. No matter in what slot type you put that adapter in, the adapter always will support the AGP slot with it's own power supply.

So no problem from this side, the adapter won't kill your card Wink

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gwb Junior Member Offline i liek eng samples Posts: 89 Georgia, USA	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #12 - 16.03.12 at 15:39:31 I would be interested in one adapter -gwb
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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #13 - 16.03.12 at 19:05:27 I suggest to create a list, in order to see how many people are interested and therefore we can calculate the price
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oldskool Senior Member Offline I Love 3dfx Posts: 398 uk Gender:	Re: AGP.5 Release. Reply #14 - 17.03.12 at 22:59:38 m14radu wrote on 16.03.12 at 19:05:27: I suggest to create a list, in order to see how many people are interested and therefore we can calculate the price Chicken and Egg scenario.
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