3dfx Archive - Print Page

3dfx Archive
http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl General Section >> General Discussion >> What's this??? http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1098052110 Message started by TM30 on 18.10.04 at 00:28:30

Title: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 18.10.04 at 00:28:30

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gdonovan on 18.10.04 at 03:43:32

Judging by the chip date (Feb-1998) a late Voodoo Graphics card.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by 3Dfx_tweaker on 18.10.04 at 07:59:51

tm30 We already confirmed it as an VERY RARE voodoo2.
Because the TMU and the FBi wherer called:
BRUCE (BE) and CHUCK (CK). Do you finally have it now Tm30? You are very lucky with this card, I have never seen something like this.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gdonovan on 18.10.04 at 08:16:19

Hey now that you mention it those are not Voodoo Graphics chip numbers.. But who the heck would make a Voodoo II with 1 TMU? Is there ram chips on the back?

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 18.10.04 at 09:18:02

hehe yeah it cannot be a voodoo graphics, i discussed in voodooalert.de already... it has 100Mhz Ram!

the card is still in delivery. when i get it i will tell you more!

i just want a confirmation here...

gdonovan do you know something about that budget voodoo 2 ? i googled but found nothing!

someone in voodooalert.de said, that the golden/yellow "pins" (do not know the right word in english) on that board indicates, that this is a prototype... is this true ? never saw a board with yellow stuff on it...

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gdonovan on 18.10.04 at 13:58:01

wrote on 18.10.04 at 09:18:02:

1) I have seen Q3D V1 cards with 75, 83 and 100 mhz ram

2) Never heard of a budget V2 aside from the 83 mhz Creative CE

3) Not sure it is prototype- If it was it would not have "CE" on it.

4) Interesting- The chip numbers fall between Rush and Voodoo II but it's clearly a V2 with one TMU.

Either way looks like you have one heck of a catch there! My money is on it being some sort of development kit board, the CE marking indicates something for retail sale though!

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 18.10.04 at 14:02:16

do you have other contacts, ex 3dfx staff e.g. ? Than you can ask these people please what it is :D

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by 3Dfx_tweaker on 18.10.04 at 14:33:19

If you do you really need to contact me. And I mean ex 3dfx employees that have worked on the Voodoo2. I am working on a big project.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 18.10.04 at 14:36:01

wrote on 18.10.04 at 14:33:19:

If you do you really need to contact me. And I mean ex 3dfx employees that have worked on the Voodoo2. I am working on a big project.

what do you mean ? Do you have contacts to ex 3dfx staff?

and what big project you're working at? Rampage in series or what ::)?

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by 3Dfx_tweaker on 18.10.04 at 14:51:20

Nope it was an extension to your question to Gdonovan. I need to get in touch with people that have worked on the voodoo1/2/3

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 18.10.04 at 14:57:27

yeah do that... 8)

i want a result in 3 days ::) ;D

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gdonovan on 18.10.04 at 15:01:23

wrote on 18.10.04 at 14:02:16:

do you have other contacts, ex 3dfx staff e.g. ? Than you can ask these people please what it is :D

Intermittent I'm afraid, I'll pass the picture along and see if there is an answer.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 18.10.04 at 15:22:17

yeah perhaps someone in 3dfxzone.it knows ? its also a great community isnt it?

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 21.10.04 at 22:36:11

wrote on 18.10.04 at 15:01:23:

Intermittent I'm afraid, I'll pass the picture along and see if there is an answer.

and did you get an answer somewhere?

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 26.10.04 at 13:25:07

::) push

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gdonovan on 26.10.04 at 14:37:26

wrote on 26.10.04 at 13:25:07:

::) push

No information.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 26.10.04 at 15:20:40

someone in 3dfxzone.it said it must be a prototype because of the early manufacturing date (week 6 in 1998 )

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 02.11.04 at 18:32:43

i got it today!!!

-90Mhz speed (Ram is 100Mhz labeled)
-only one TMU (instead of 2)
-only 4MB RAM (2MB Frame Buffer Memory + 2MB Texture Memory)
-Windows recognizes it as a normal voodoo 2
-3DMark2001 runs only in 640x480, exactly 1000 Points :)

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 03.11.04 at 15:43:58

could be "DCI" the brand of the card? (located on the back of the card besides the VGA connector)

I did not found any information on google...

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gdonovan on 03.11.04 at 16:13:10

DCI is just the board plant or sub-contractor

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 11.11.04 at 20:13:15

okay, in x3dfx Forum one said, it is a kind of a never built Voodoo Graphics 2 .... looks possible to me!

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by jblue on 03.04.05 at 21:53:46

It a Voodoo2

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by Chosen_One on 04.04.05 at 18:45:45

if you read the thread carefully you come to the conclusion that this card cannot be a normal Voodoo2....
i have the same opinion like tm30...a never released voodoo graphics 2 protoype...i guess there is no other possibility which descripes this card better than a voodoo graphics 2 prototype...

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by paulpsomiadis on 04.04.05 at 19:08:30

I speculate that we can name the prototype "Voodoo 2 Value Edition", since it's only HALF a V2... ;)

...opinions anyone? ???

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by NitroX infinity on 04.04.05 at 19:45:06

I don't think the design is all that strange. The Voodoo Graphics had such a layout and what better way to test a new chip with an already proven layout?

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by Eye-Q on 04.04.05 at 21:46:15

wrote on 04.04.05 at 19:45:06:

I don't think the design is all that strange. The Voodoo Graphics had such a layout and what better way to test a new chip with an already proven layout?

Show me one Voodoo Graphics with this layout of the RAM-chips. ;) At most Voodoo Graphics the RAM is located in two rows to the right hand of the two 3dfx-chips. Although I've seen some different layouts of Voodoo Graphics (Skywell, VillageTronic, miro/canopus) I never saw this layout with RAM-chips above and below the RAMDAC.

As stated by TM30 himself: the card is recognized as a Voodoo 2 but with only one TMU, the inscriptions on the chips (CK=chuck, BE=bruce) indicate that, too.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 05.04.05 at 18:33:13

Full ACK @ Eye-Q ;D

this is definatly not a Voodoo Graphics,

we said it many times before...

or do you ever have seen someone running 3dmark 2001 with a voodoo graphics? or a voodoo graphics with "bruce" and "chuck" chipset???

someone said alredy that it was mentioned once in a magazine, but noone knows where ("budget voodoo 2" or "voodoo graphics 2")

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by NitroX infinity on 05.04.05 at 18:39:41

I never said it _is_ a Voodoo Graphics. I said it _looks like_ a Voodoo Graphics.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 05.04.05 at 21:07:08

not really... ;)

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by OutOfRange on 05.04.05 at 21:35:09

sry but why are you talking for nothing about what a card is or looks like when they is defintely based on voodoo 2 ???

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by jblue on 06.04.05 at 17:11:00

wrote on 04.04.05 at 18:45:45:

Not a normal voodoo2 but still a voodoo2

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 06.04.05 at 21:25:52

not really... a voodoo 2 has 2 TMU....

i think Voodoo Graphics 2 is the right one...

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gdonovan on 06.04.05 at 21:36:26

A Voodoo 2 is a Voodoo 2- The spec if anyone took the time to read the documents the V2 spec supports from one up to three TMU's per PFI unit.

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by OutOfRange on 06.04.05 at 21:52:22

the card is based on a voodoo 2 chipset, short an simple.

it's not a normal v2 but it's a v2

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by TM30 on 06.04.05 at 21:58:39

yeah its unique ;D :D

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by paulpsomiadis on 07.04.05 at 01:15:06

It's a V2 - just on a diet! LOL! ;D

Title: Re: What's this???
Post by gamma742 on 07.04.05 at 22:22:14

Yeah Paul, Thanks!! I needed a good laugh. I like your discription best. LOL!

Nice item for the collection that's for sure ;)