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Message started by razrx on 18.09.08 at 10:01:03

Title: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 18.09.08 at 10:01:03
I'm trying to set up my Miro Highscore3D into my Win98SE PC.  Windows auto detected the card and installed the drivers.  I have tried both the latest offcial and unofficial drivers.  As soon as the voodoo graphics should kick in, I get this:

http://i298.photobucket.com/albums/mm241/razr_x/th_09-18-08_0247.jpg

and the correct audio is playing in the background....  

Windows reports no issues with the card.

The same result screen occurs when I try Descent2, UT-GOTY, Whiplash.

I have tried different PCI slots and I've taken out one of two sticks of 512MB ram.  Can some one please help?  

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by ps47 on 18.09.08 at 10:17:20
if you can,try a voodoo1 from a different manufacturer.v1 is a real pain when it comes to compatibility,some models work fine,others not at all..

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 18.09.08 at 10:58:38
=\  ok, I will see.  I think my brother has a Diamond V1 laying around.

Do you know what the website is for Miro?  I visited it once, but that was a while ago.

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by G1nX on 18.09.08 at 11:36:44
Here ou can find the miro HighScore drivers
http://www.mirosupport.de/
Also you can try testing the card without the cable connecting it to the 2d card and see if it outputs correctly. Also you should do a clean-up of drivers for the V1 because sometimes they overlap. Also you can install win2k and install the last reference 3dfx V1 drivers for win2k. I worked for me...

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by exxe on 18.09.08 at 17:56:06
its called HiScore
the Voodoo Graphics board 100% identical to the Canopus Pure3D
also the Miro V2.10 drivers works with the Miro V2 AND V1 boards

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 18.09.08 at 20:57:31
Ok, so before swapping out V1 cards, I went to the mirosupport.de webpage (thanks G1nX!!!) and downloaded the drivers.

I deleted the Voodoo Graphics adapter in Win98SE and ADDed NEW HARDWARE.  It found the HISCORE card and I pointed the installer to the Miro files and the program installed fine.  Windows reports the card is functioning properly.

I'm still getting the garbled screen as before.   I think I covered removal of the old drivers.  As for Win2K, this machine is for DOS/9x games only, so I need something that works in those environments...

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by paulpsomiadis on 18.09.08 at 21:03:39
If it doesn't work in DOS - it "might" be bad RAM on the card... :-/

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by RaverX on 18.09.08 at 21:09:15
I'm almost 100% sure that you have a bad card and the problem is a faulty TMU or FB chip (could be some broken pins) or some missing traces on the PCB. If there was only a memory module, then you should be seeing almost ok, but with corrupted textures or dots over image.

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by exxe on 18.09.08 at 21:11:58

razrx wrote on 18.09.08 at 20:57:31:
Voodoo PC: PIII-S 1.4GHz... Miro HighScore 3D,...


there is still the roumor that some old voodoos dont work on 133MHz FSB
and i know that all PCI v1 and V2 dont work on my K7 system (agp v2 run fine)
give 100MHz FSB a try

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 19.09.08 at 00:00:12

RaverX wrote on 18.09.08 at 21:09:15:
I'm almost 100% sure that you have a bad card and the problem is a faulty TMU or FB chip (could be some broken pins) or some missing traces on the PCB. If there was only a memory module, then you should be seeing almost ok, but with corrupted textures or dots over image.

Is there anyway to fix the issue if this is the case?

@exxe - I tried running the PIII @ 1050MHz (100MHz bus), but I still get the same issue.

@G1nX - how do you do this? "Also you can try testing the card without the cable connecting it to the 2d card and see if it outputs correctly."  what what should I be seeing?

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by G1nX on 19.09.08 at 00:35:31
Well you can use a 2 input monitor use the 1st input for the 2D card and when the 3d application calls for glide just switch to 2nd input that is connected to the v1 card. Or simply just switch the monitor cable from the 2d card to the v1 card when the 3d application is running.
Also exxe has point in that V1 cards tend to be picky on running on newer systems. Same goes for Voodoo Rush & Voodoo2 cards. My suggestion is to use an older system at core you can have a i440bx and use a variety of cpu's with 66 or 100mhz bus to get these cards to work properly.
As for sw you can have a dual boot win98 and win2k and with the proper drivers enjoy a lot of oldies but goldies games.

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 26.09.08 at 03:43:38
Is there a software program that can test your voodoo card to tell you if it's good or not?

I bought a Pure3D card today, Windows sees it and installs the drivers for it, but when I try to run Descent2 in 3dfx or UT-GOTY with the 3dfx card either the window or the computer locks up.   :-/

I'm not having any luck with Voodoo 1s....  Although the guy that sold the card to me was holding the bare card as he walked across the parking lot....  maybe the ram is messed up too like the Miro card?

Does anyone know of a testing program that you can run diagnostics on your Voodoo1?

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 28.09.08 at 01:52:17
hmmm.....
So I had a spare Duron 800MHz show up and I tested the Pure3D card.  It worked!!!  Well, it worked with Unreal Tournament GOTY and Descent 2 - d2_3dfx patch.  Whew!  So I'm guessing that my P3 setup is too new for the Pure3D card....  So now I'm after an AMD 1400 Athlon system, probably using an EPoX motherboard....  

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by ps47 on 28.09.08 at 08:25:31
lucky guy.I was never able to get my v1 to work on a duron/athlon based machine.as I said,v1 cards behave totally erratic when used on new machines..

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 28.09.08 at 09:29:47
I haven't tested the HiScore3D card in the Duron 800MHz (Asus A7V133 mobo)system, but I'm assuming it will work too.  Unfortunately the A7V133 doesn't have any ISA slots.

I did learn some things though....  that's a plus.

I will report back once I get an AMD board/CPU installed.  :)

@PS47 - Do you remember what motherboard was or motherboard manufacturer was?  I'll steer clear of those boards.  

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by ps47 on 28.09.08 at 14:03:27

razrx wrote on 28.09.08 at 09:29:47:
@PS47 - Do you remember what motherboard was or motherboard manufacturer was?  I'll steer clear of those boards.  

pcchips m810.steering away is what you should do.

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 02.10.08 at 01:41:51
Ok will do.  :)

I just won an auction for an Epox EP-8KTA3+Pro motherboard.  

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=250299515210&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=015

I think I have a 1400 MHz Athlon @ 100 MHz laying around......  I will try that first.  

The board supports AthlonXP-M chips on 266 MHz bus, so I will get that later if the 1400 MHz chip works out.

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by Kaitou on 03.10.08 at 03:55:00

ps47 wrote on 28.09.08 at 14:03:27:

razrx wrote on 28.09.08 at 09:29:47:
@PS47 - Do you remember what motherboard was or motherboard manufacturer was?  I'll steer clear of those boards.  

pcchips m810.steering away is what you should do.


I love that Board. PC Chips M810LMR What a son-of-a-bitch. I had it running in that configuration:

AMD Duron (Morgan) 1000 @ 1333
256MB PC133 SDRAM
Onboard VGA @ 64MB Shared Memory.

The Best thing was: It was not able to run the Techdemo in a acceptable way.

No Kyro II ist working on that Board.
No 3dfx based AGP cards.
Almost no ATI Cards.

Just GeForces.

Anyways:
The latest Board I was running a Voodoo 1 in was a i440BX Pentium III Chipset.

Title: Re: Miro Voodoo issues
Post by razrx on 03.10.08 at 04:19:27
LOL!!!!!   ;D

That PCCHIPS board is fussy!!!!  :P

BTW, is PCCHIPS also ASROCK???  they seem to both have the same model #.   Anyways, I Googled the board as I was curious about it now...

Verdict:
So I went here:  http://pcchipsusa.com/prod-m810lmr.asp

and the board didn't look too bad... but I think I will stick with the EPoX.

They even posted a video card compatability chart.... LOL

Model Chipset        Memory        Manufacture
3D Blaster GeForce      32M      Creative CT6940
ATI PERMEDIA2      8M      WinFast 3D L2300
GeForce 256      32M      ASUS V6600
GeForce 2 MX      32M      ASUS AGP-V7100
GeForce 2 GTS DDR      32M      ASUS AGP-7700D
GeForce 2 GTS DDR      32M      ELSA GLADIAC
GeForce 2 GTS      32M      WinFast
GeForce 2 MX      32M      WinFast
Matrox Productive G100      8M      Matrox
Matrox Millennium G200      8M      TAGRAM
NVIDIA GeForce 256      32M      Creative CT6970
NVIDIA GeForce 256 DDR      32M      ASUS V6800
NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Vanta      32M      Top Solution
RIVA TNT2 M64      16M      Pixel View
RIVA TNT      16M      WinFast 3D S320
RIVA TNT2      32M      ASUS AGP-V3800
RIVA TNT2      32M      Creative CT6810

You're right about the almost exclusive nVidia video card compatability.  Jeez, it's almost like today's SLI/Crossfire boards.... you can only go with either ATI OR nVidia....

I can't wait until the new X58 boards come out!!!!  they're supposed to be Crossfire & SLI compatable.

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