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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #15 - 23.02.05 at 18:00:12

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I've posted here somewhere..

But some 3dfx Voodoo Graphics cards run perfectly in new AMD systems.

I have 3 A-Trend Helios 3D cards which ran perfectly in my AMD Duron 1200 and runs perfectly in an AMD Athlon XP 1700+ @ 2400MHz. (192x12,5)

Diamond Monster 3D runs perfect too.

The card that doesn't work is an ColorMAX Voodoo.

..full system specs please (all hardware/software,especially the voodoo1 xp driver you have been using)
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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #16 - 24.02.05 at 14:41:50

sounds interesting.... Maybe I can see the differences of my cards too. I'm not very hopeful that i can get my cards to work but i'll take a closer look at the cards and PCI connections.

Whats annoying is my PC detecting about 15 multimedia devices at once!!! It took a while to remove them all from device manager Sad

It seems to be a big problem with my computer detecting the 3dfx card.

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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #17 - 28.02.05 at 23:29:38

Hm, considering you basically could have trashed alot of components in your totally overclocked System, it's IMHO impossible to say where the actual error is buried.

It's a wonder it is still running in the first place.

Did you test if the Voodoo1 works in normal operating parameters ?
(AthlonXP 1700+ = 1466MHz, not 2400MHz)

IMHO high FSB has often hurt Voodoo Cards (malfunctions, overtemp), even if their own Bus Clock remained normal.

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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #19 - 20.07.05 at 17:46:15

Say, what about a Voodoo4 on WindowsME?

To have a few (old) Glide-games running again (after 5 years), I installed WindowsME next to W2K on my new(er) PC.

After installing two different drivers (i.e. the Amigamerlin- and Evolution-drivers as on 3dfxzone.it), I get a General Protection Error...

I have an Athlon 64 3000+ (@ 1,8 GHz) on an Asus A8V Deluxe mobo with 1024 MB DDR RAM, and Windows Millennium.

WinME instead of Win98, because, in my experience ME is (was) a lot better than 98.

Since I did not get the two games (space sims called, "Independence War" and "Defiance" by the late "Particle Systems" from the UK) to run on XP Pro and on W2K with my old Geforce2 MX and Glide "emulators", I thought I'd try good ole Windows Millennium again.

How come I get this general protection error after rebooting these Voodoo4-drivers?

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Obi-Wan_Kenobi Ex Member	Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC Reply #20 - 20.07.05 at 20:00:10 not Windows Massile Extinction please, that is the worse OS ever made ans especially for 3dfx cards. I would rather recommend you to use Win2K pro + SP4+
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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #21 - 20.07.05 at 20:16:24

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not Windows Massile Extinction please, that is the worse OS ever made ans especially for 3dfx cards.
I would rather recommend you to use Win2K pro + SP4+

No way, Obi Wan!
I tested by intensive benchmarking both Win 98SE and Win ME and my results were that ME is faster, although somehow a litle unstable. I am using right now Win ME for my system powered by Voodoo 4 and it runs flawlessly, not alike the slower Win 98SE. By my oppinion, 3DFX products play realy small part in the overall speed difference between the two ... other system specs than mine might lead to different results ... it must be a case of better compatibility ...

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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #22 - 20.07.05 at 20:19:51

ME is slower dude, really, I've used all OS's on my AXP 2700+ rig, with nearly all 3dfx cards I own and Win98SE is way faster than ME, ME is filled with bugs, it has been nomminated as the worst Operating System in The Word, and really it's frikk'n slow man, believe me, Windows 98SE with unofficial Service Pack 2.0 is the fastest and the best OS of 3dfx Voodoo cards with Windows 2000 + SP4+ on very well earned second place, there are facts of proof enough in this 3dfx world.

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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #23 - 20.07.05 at 21:11:38

No reason to flame about that subject ... although I don't like the "dude" word since I don't see myself as a surfer guy Grin

As I sayed, for me Win ME works better than 98 SE. Why? Optimised drivers (MB, SB, LAN ...) or whatever ... I realy don't care ... my favoryte is my fastest.

The fact that for many others the result is quite the opposite doesn't help me a bit. If Win98 were faster for my PC, I would have switched to it in no time because it is more stable.
Sorry for the off-topic ... Wink

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Obi-Wan_Kenobi Ex Member	Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC Reply #24 - 20.07.05 at 21:16:17 Win98SE is faster laddie, there is enough proof, you asked , you get a clear shot so do I ..... you must do what is best of course ...
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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #25 - 20.07.05 at 21:45:32

Laddie ?? Should I take it as a "joke" ? ???
First you called me "dude", now "laddie"... Maybe my English sucks big-time and I miss-interpreted the terms, ... or maybe not. Lips Sealed

No need for me to answer the same way, all I did was to state my point based on personal tests in civillised manner. If you feel like you need to continue calling me dissrespectfull names, please take it to private messaging way, Obi Wan!

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I never sayed that Win ME fits better for the 3DFX products than 98. I stated that for my system it gives me better overall performance but not stability. I tested other things too than gaming experiences.

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Obi-Wan_Kenobi Ex Member	Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC Reply #26 - 20.07.05 at 21:47:46 please behave, the words dude and laddie are friendly things not mean things, we use those words morely and often from time to time, I use what I want, your are not the boss of my words, do I make myself clear. I sense something I haven't felt since......
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paulpsomiadis God Member Offline -=3Dfx still rox!=- Posts: 2011 Newcastle U.K. Gender:	Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC Reply #27 - 20.07.05 at 22:01:07 Yah, cool it folks! Remember that there are certain colloquialisms that mean something different to people who do not use them locally! CHILL, it's all good! 8)
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Obi-Wan_Kenobi Ex Member	Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC Reply #28 - 20.07.05 at 22:04:08 yeah I know, I he asked for an aswer, I said that WinME isn't the best OS for 3dfx cards, he didn't agree, his dicision not mine.
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Re: Voodoo Graphics on modern PC
Reply #29 - 20.07.05 at 22:09:35

No I'm not the boss of your words! Try to be more tolerant with other cultures customs, please! For me beeing called "dude" and "laddie" is considered an offence as in your culture they are friendly words. You couldn't have known that the first time; but I infform you on that now. If it is a must I'll adapt, look now:
<<Dude my force is cleaner than yours! Proove me wrong, you laddie!>>
Am I behaveing properly enough for your standards now?
P.S. Please forgive me mates for takeing this thred the off-topic way! I do end it here.

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Obi Wan, you have private message from me Wink

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