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Rant : No more cool Games...
27.05.09 at 02:40:24
 
I was just wondering :

My shelf is piling up on Games, many of which are even quite new.
The only Problem : they're either Bug heaven or boring as hell.

What's with that, am I getting too old for Gaming or have my expectations risen so high that there's nothing out there that could satisfy my demands ?!

The last Game I actually played to the end was FarCry 2, and I didn't like it.
They should have named it "Collin McRae - Mercenary edition". Most of the time driving through the scenery to solve the missions.
AI can see and fire through dense vegetation (which does a good job covering the AI as the player can't target them anymore, but doesn't work the other way around).
AI is resetting objects in the world as soon as a sector is left (say hello to Stalker) and brand new weapons are either useless or start malfunctioning within 2-3 game days, which is laughable.

While we're at it... So we have this lonesome mercenary that during the story develops some kind of passion to the african people and starts helping them.
Yet, in order to fulfill the missions one is expected to kill more people (inlcuding his own friends) than an average civil war would cause casualties... ?! Jez, what a BS... talk about a psychopatic storyline.

Fear 2 :
Oh, different HUD with artificial grain overimposed by default (so I actually have to disable "more ugly GFX" option in Menu *ugh*), worse SFX and effects than Fear 1 and, well, plays like a Level Pack for Fear 1 - minus Bullet time they screwed up somehow. Uninstalled after a few levels.

GTA 4 :
Hm, strange to see so much hype about a game that refuses to launch with an ATI Radeon card installed despite the latest patch on a fresh install. Guess NVidia players have a good time with it.
Also interesting that (as opposed to the notes on the packaging) it tries to make the player register to 3 different Services, none of which are required for offline Gaming. WTF....
Uninstalled before even playing once.

Hint to Rockstar Games (tm) :
When a player wants to install a game, the only validation required is an original DVD in the Drive and a Key. Online activation is pushing it, but acceptable these days - BUT everything beyond that is simply unacceptable...
(I mean... hell, it's easier to setup and re-register an old SGI Irix 6.5 Operating System with SGI service division than getting this game to install - plus it won't make your Firewall make you think you're trying to install a Trojan Pack, considering how many completely unrelated Websites are attempted to be contacted during Install)

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So now I have the situation that the CPU and GFX Hardware world offers all I could only dream of in the old days - but have no Game whatsoever to feed it that would offer any fun Tongue

How stupid is that Angry
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Reply #1 - 27.05.09 at 09:07:33
 
About GTA IV, I installed it for about 10 hours  Roll Eyes because I must reinstall OS... It solve problems. GTA worth it Wink
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Reply #2 - 27.05.09 at 11:49:43
 
That's the reason why I sticked to indie games. I recommend Zeno Clash - its quite a crazy game, but I liked it. Smiley Although, it's quite short
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Reply #3 - 27.05.09 at 13:40:08
 
I feel exactly the same, there are no more cool games...Quake, Carmageddon, Half Life, Starcraft, Sin, Blood2...and many many older games ruled.
BUT...
if you search, you can still find nice games.

Right now, I'm enjoying X-Men Origin : Wolverine, it's a cool game, I tried the demo on XBOX 360 and I liked it.
You mentioned FEAR2, I think it's nice, but there is nothing new in it.
The Painkiller serie is also nice.
Tomb Raider Underground is not bad if you like adventure style.
If you like cool graphics, Crysis is a good option, although the story sucks a lot and the game is way too short.
There are a few more games, but right now I'm at work, if  get home, I'll look on my HDD and see what else I have installed there  Wink
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Reply #4 - 27.05.09 at 14:27:50
 
I agree, the good stuff is old. The new stuff mostly isn't worth it.

Back in the nineties stuff was still fresh, new genres appeared and technology allowed for better graphics (not just 3D, also 16bit and later 32bit colours). RTS, FPS, FlightSim, RPG's, they all rose to heights in that decade.

Back in those days it also didn't cost much to make a good game compared to now.

The only real innovation I can think of that took place in this decade, was MMO, not much innovation going on compared to the previous decade.
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Reply #5 - 27.05.09 at 19:23:52
 
GEARS OF WAR PC version.... Roll Eyes

OH - DEAR - GOD - NOOOOOOO! Shocked
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Reply #6 - 27.05.09 at 21:52:36
 
Kind of in the same boat... Been playing Portal but you can only go through the same lvl's so many times. Finally built a nice system, quad core, dual 3870 vid cards and nothing really to play that I've been interested in.

Baulders gate series, awesome - Interplay is dead though. There is NWN but after going through it more then once or three times, can't get into it any more.

Morrowind and the rest of the series, not bad but I got stuck after finding out that stuff lvl's the same as you and only difference is gear, had to restart it as it was near impossible to go anywhere. Not a fun task, at least for me. Should have looked into it better before dumping a bunch of time into it. That was my fault.

Fallout 3 from what I heard is pretty good but haven't been able to get it.

Thief series was great but years in between releasing a new one and lack of mods for it... Thief one and two had a ton of mods with people even making a UT mod to multi-play it = great. Thief 3 for as much as they put into it still lacked something. Rumors of Thief 4 maybe coming out but who knows.

Rainbow Six 3... Used to be fun until they made it so you could respawn in multiplayer. I liked the fact that once you were dead, you stayed dead until the next match started. Made you think before running into a place with guns blazing to die and just respawn again to do the same thing.

Played WoW for about a year and half and trying to find a way to reclaim my lost time with that one.  Tongue  Fun but gets old and the kids.... oh good grief. Instant gratification on everything.

I don't know man, mines being used as a DVD player now, it's about all I do with it, either watch movies or listen to music that I have stored on it.  That's what I call an epic gaming machine.    Cry
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Reply #7 - 27.05.09 at 23:25:22
 
thief 4 is official.lets hope they get it right (the chances are good,the eidos guys are actually roaming around the ttlg forums listening to the fans)-thief3 was not a bad game,but its just as you said,it lacked something.

I'm replaying system shock2 right now-its unbelievable,but after all those years,that game still manages to scare the sh!t out of me..it's brilliant.

I think that's what we are lacking today-while there are good games around,none of them are..brilliant.
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Reply #8 - 27.05.09 at 23:37:46
 
I`m in the same boat to a q9500 dual 4850s and nothing much usefull to play except movies . Farcry2 to much the same  Crysis warhead shame there wasn`t more levels and medieval 2 total war is good but hard to face after  Rome total war

i think a retro gamer rebuid is in order
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Reply #9 - 28.05.09 at 00:42:14
 
ps47 wrote on 27.05.09 at 23:25:22:
I'm replaying system shock2 right now-its unbelievable,but after all those years,that game still manages to scare the sh!t out of me..it's brilliant.

I think that's what we are lacking today-while there are good games around,none of them are..brilliant.


SS2 rocked mostly, ending needed to be tightened up though.
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Reply #10 - 28.05.09 at 00:51:51
 
ps47 wrote on 27.05.09 at 23:25:22:
thief 4 is official.lets hope they get it right (the chances are good,the eidos guys are actually roaming around the ttlg forums listening to the fans)-thief3 was not a bad game,but its just as you said,it lacked something.

I'm replaying system shock2 right now-its unbelievable,but after all those years,that game still manages to scare the sh!t out of me..it's brilliant.

I think that's what we are lacking today-while there are good games around,none of them are..brilliant.



Sweet, thanks ps47. I had heard rumors but haven't looked into it to much. This is very cool. Agreed, Thief 3 wasn't a bad game at all but it did lack something, what exactly I don't know, but it just didn't have the same feel as the first two games.

I'll have to check out System Shock 2 though. Haven't played it at all.

@IG88 retro game box sounds good but I've got one setup. I just don't like running old games at 800x600 or less. Besides, I've gotten lazy and started running my really old games in DOSBox.  Tongue 

It is hard to get into anything any more. Maybe it's as Falcon said.... (cringe) Old age.

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Reply #11 - 28.05.09 at 10:09:21
 
I'm somewhat looking forward to StarCraft II, looks like Blizzard Enertainment are still following their oldschool rules - maximum internal Testing and absolutely rigid gameplay/map balacing.

Other than that, I'm also using my HighEnd Rig as a Flash Game player (out of pure boredom), Jukebox and DVD player...

Still, kind of tragic.
When you're a kid, you get what you can and the entertainment was awesome, even with very little.
Now I can basically afford any rig and game I want - but there's hardly anything that appeals to me Tongue

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I played Crysis and initially thought it had a couple of nice points (armor suit w/ cloak etc.)... But after a few hours I realized this Game was far too easy, even on max. difficulty - and as usual, threw away lots of its potential.
AI companions only dumb cannon fodder as usual, you end up as the lonely ranger most of the time as usual. You're supposed to kill the "unhelpful bad guys from some axis of evil" on the way as usual.
Jez, how stereotypic, playing it often felt like I'm gaming through a typical Bush Propaganda campaign. Shouldn't be like that, the linear plot should have been alot more twisted than that.

Speaking of linear, it's amazing how much effort they still put into making your gaming route a straight line and even give you GPS to find it ffs. I think even Wolfenstein 3D had more than one route you could pick in some levels...

What I miss in all of those Graphics Monster engined games is the love to detail. It's the small things that often make the difference, and in Crysis there simply were none (except serving as scenery for nice Screenshots maybe).
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Reply #12 - 28.05.09 at 12:14:00
 
..I (mostly) blame it on the change that games underwent in the past few years-in the good old times (geez that sounded weird),games were made by small(er) companies,sure,money was always involved,but games were considered more like art than a source of serious income.now its all different-games are not made for gamers/fans,but for maximum profit,screw fans and gamers,the more shiny trash we can produce and sell,the better.


the example I like to use is IO interactive-if I'm not mistaken,they were just five guys,sitting somewhere between north and baltic sea,not even knowing how their main game character should look like,so they ordered pizza..and the pizzaboy was looking quite strange (bald man with dry lips),and behold,hitman (mr. 47) has been born,and along with him,a very interesting and innovative game.

no way something like this is going to happen today-you need a ton of advertising,shiny graphics,motion capture etc for a game to be a commercial succes-and that costs money,lots of money..locking the game developement exclusively in the hands of giants like Sony or EA (purchase evvrrythiing).

once something starts to be all just about money,everything goes down the drain,be it games,music,or movies.

jandarsun8 wrote on 28.05.09 at 00:51:51:
I'll have to check out System Shock 2 though. Haven't played it at all.

watch out,the game requires a ton of fixing/tweaking if you want to run it on a modern machine..maybe I should quit being lazy and finally translate this to english Roll Eyes


btw,there is an online petition to release the thief/shock2 source code,I know that online petitions are usually not much help,but its worth a try-without the source,the games can't be modified properly,and we are forced to use a milion hacks to get it working,just like I mentioned..
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Reply #13 - 28.05.09 at 21:00:37
 
The last game I played through was Quake 4  Undecided
WHEN I play it's the Wii or rarely the XBOX 360.
I'm waiting for Diablo III (or DN Forever Grin ) - at this time my PC will have me using it for gaming again Roll Eyes
At the moment it's an overpowered surfing-/music-machine..
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Reply #14 - 29.05.09 at 01:56:11
 
Games have went downhill. I mainly play new games on my 360 and sometimes on the wii. Neither system much, the wii even less.

I played resident evil 4 on the wii. I was very impressed with that game. Alot of fun. But thats about it for games on the wii. I was planning on buying Resident Evil 5 on the wii. But its not happening. Roll Eyes

I could count the 360 games Ive bought on both hands since the system was released. Most games are fun for a couple days, then get old quick. Gears of war 1 was alot of fun, mostly multiplayer. Gears of war 2 was ok. But they tried to "micro-manage" the multiplayer to make it what they wanted and turned alot of people off.

Battlefield bad company mulitplayer was alot of fun.

The 2 standout games are Fallout 3 and Bioshock. Bioshock was great, it had a good atmoshpere and fun gameplay.

Fallout 3 was the best in my opinion. I actually sold it and am kicking myself because they've came out with 3 more expansions for it. Angry   

There are some good games. But they are few and far between. Ive actually played dungeon keeper 2 more in the last 2 days than Ive played the xbox in over a week.

I looked around for some older games and came up with screamer 4x4, leadfoot(bought them on ebay). Both really fun game and work great on the v5500  Cools

This topic is actually why I decided to get a computer going with the voodoo card. All the games I played about 10 years ago were just gathering dust. Games like Unreal, Unreal expansion pack na pali, GLquake, Quake expansion packs, Quake 2, Half-life, starcraft, etc etc etc. They just dont make them like they used to.

I also dont care what anyone says. Unreal is a great looking game even now, in my opinion.





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