Some hypothetical questions related to this topic:
http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=techtalk;action=display;num=1087131259

1. What would a Voodoo 5 with 128MB RAM be called?
(5600/5700/5900?)

2. What would a Voodoo 5 with a modified PCB be called? (One chip on each side (effectively reducing the size of the board), 128MB RAM)

3. What would a Voodoo 5 'Daytona' be called? 5800?
And would the amount of RAM change that number?

If so, what would the following be called?
V5 Daytona 64MB / V5 Daytona 128MB / V5 Daytona 256MB / V5 Daytona 512MB

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1. What would a Voodoo 5 with 128MB RAM be called? (5600/5700/5900?)

I guess 5600


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2. What would a Voodoo 5 with a modified PCB be called? (One chip on each side (effectively reducing the size of the board), 128MB RAM)

Maybe 5600S..


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3. What would a Voodoo 5 'Daytona' be called? 5800? And would the amount of RAM change that number?

I guess 5800 with 128 DDR RAM, 5700 with 64 DDR RAM.


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If so, what would the following be called? V5 Daytona 64MB / V5 Daytona 128MB / V5 Daytona 256MB / V5 Daytona 512MB

512? Don't you think it's too much for card like this? ;)

Why would 512MB be too much? Would run Doom3 a lot better :D

Another question:

Is Daytona a native PCI card (Like Napalm) or is this the first native AGP card from 3dfx?

wrote on 11.10.04 at 13:26:23:

Is Daytona a native PCI card (Like Napalm) or is this the first native AGP card from 3dfx?

You have to refine your question a bit- The Banshee was an AGP part.

The VSA-100 was the first part that would do AGP x 4.

The 5500 doesn't do x 4 due to it's 2 chip design, I think it had something to do with winblows.

A Voodoo 5 (Napalm) or any 3dfx videocard for that matter runs at PCI66 or something like that.

Which means that the card is a native PCI card.
Was the Daytona also a native PCI card or was this a full-blown AGP card?

wrote on 11.10.04 at 15:19:10:

A Voodoo 5 (Napalm) or any 3dfx videocard for that matter runs at PCI66 or something like that. Which means that the card is a native PCI card.

No- it means Windows doesn't support the dual chip setup in the proper AGP modes.

The Voodoo 4 is a AGP x 4 card, the V5 isn't for the above reason.

Oh, I misunderstood the whole PCI66 thing then ;D

wrote on 11.10.04 at 15:29:22:

Oh, I misunderstood the whole PCI66 thing then ;D

PCI slots run at 33 mhz
AGP slots run at a base mode of 66 mhz plus AGP modes if the card supports them.

The Quantum3D S-12 Obsidian2 AGPTV runs at 66 mhz bus compared to other Voodoo 2 cards =)

I was thinking, with all this talking of expanding memory on the V4/5 cards and a Dutch guy trying to mod his V2's;

Is there a chip that lets you control the speed of the graphics-chip and the memory seperately?

You mean like RadLinker for Radeons?

Not that I am aware of, by maybe someone else knows of such a 3dfx tool.

Nonono, not a tool! An actual chip that you can put on a PCB so that you can regulate the speed of the memory and graphicschips seperately. Sorta like the northbridge for motherboards with which you can control the speed of the CPU and the memory seperately.

This would be very usefull, for ALL the voodoo's

Yeah, especially for the Daytona :D
200MHz core, 400MHz memory

Redesigning a 3dfx board? count me out.

Yeah, thats the problem, But The chip used will be very likely small, and it would just look like a lot of re-wiring. It wouldn't look good, but if it works it is okay.

I think we could taks a small test pcb and put that over the existing board.

Just dreamin'. But it could be possible:


wrote on 20.06.04 at 18:33:34:

F60783.6 definitely indicates a 3dfx Part (BGA). Some of them are still available here : http://www.qcomponent.com/Qcomponent/Inventario/InventoryAlphabet.asp?PROID=F Of course, I'm just as surprised to see something like this turn up, but all the numbers do add together. Looking at the very late Production Date and the highest PCB Part No. of the 210-xxx series I've ever seen, it seems quite possible.

Looked at the link a few days ago, 6 VSA-101 chips available. Might be possible to make our own design :D

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Searching on google for partnumbers can be quite interesting sometimes:
http://www.usbid.com/index.cfm

Use the part search at the top; F60783.6