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Message started by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 05:20:38

Title: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 05:20:38
I will move to another city next month, I can't carry all my 3dfx items and need to clear out some of them,  and I can ship them worldwild, PayPal is OK, the buyer pay shipping cost.

Item 1, Sealed Voodoo4 4500 AGP EU, 100 Euro


Item 2, Magic 3d Voodoo1 boxed, 20 Euro


Item 3, Gainwood Dragon 3000 boxed, 20 Euro


Item 4, Jazz adrenaline voodoo rush boxed (box tearing and fading), 20 Euro


Item 5, Orchid Righteous 3D Boxed, 20 Euro (sold to endo)


Item 6, Canopus Pure3d-LX 6M Boxed, 40 Euro (sold to endo)


item 7, MiroHiscore 3D voodoo2 12M boxed, 50 Euro


item 8, Sealed Orchid Righteous 3D II, 50 Euro


item 9, Sealed V2 1000 PCI 12M, 50 Euro


item 10, village Tronic Mac Picasso 540 plus 3D Overdirve, 60 Euro


item 11, IO-DATA voodoo banshee PCI, card only, 10 Euro


item 12, STB voodoo4 4500 AGP, card only, 10 Euro


item 13, Voodoo5 5500 AGP, card only, 10 Euro


item 14, Sigma voodoo3 AGP 143Mhz, card only, 10 Euro


item 15, Sigma voodoo3 AGP 166Mhz, card only, 10 Euro


item 16, Buffalo voodoo banshee PCI 8M , card only, 10 Euro


item 17, InnoVISION Mighty FX6M, card only, 10 Euro


item 18, Atari Final Assault PCB, 100 Euro


Any question, contact me, thanks

Rob




Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by endo on 07.03.10 at 06:33:20
I am interested in Items 5 & 6 but your pictures are not displaying ?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 08:25:44
item 2-3-4-7-8-9 i want  ::)

Where you from btw?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by RaverX on 07.03.10 at 10:06:59
I am intersted in a few cards, but :
1. the pictures do now show, I see only some chinesse text there - that's not a big problem, if the description of cards is accurate
2. I don't know the shipping costs...I am from Romania (Europe). Can you provide an estimate ?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by exxe on 07.03.10 at 10:50:31
still no pictures

interest on 17, 18 and maybe 13
what come all with 18? also the HDD?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by Maf on 07.03.10 at 11:05:36
Interested in 3, 7, 9, 12, 13. Is this an auction or what? :)

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 11:49:06

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 08:25:44:
item 2-3-4-7-8-9 i want  ::)

Where you from btw?


Items are located at Beijing China.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by Maf on 07.03.10 at 11:52:42

robbleecn wrote on 07.03.10 at 11:49:06:
Items are located at Beijing China.

:-/ How much is the shipping to EU?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 11:55:22

RaverX wrote on 07.03.10 at 10:06:59:
I am intersted in a few cards, but :
1. the pictures do now show, I see only some chinesse text there - that's not a big problem, if the description of cards is accurate
2. I don't know the shipping costs...I am from Romania (Europe). Can you provide an estimate ?


1, Please open this link, http://quantum3d.photo.163.com, you will see all pics of items.
2, The shipping cost from China to Romania,
shipping via air: 35,00 EUR (<2kg),
shipping via sea+air+land: 25,00 EUR (<2kg),
shipping insure: 1% + 1 EUR

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 11:56:43

endo wrote on 07.03.10 at 06:33:20:
I am interested in Items 5 & 6 but your pictures are not displaying ?


please open this link, http://quantum3d.photo.163.com, you will  see all pics of items.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 12:04:17

exxe wrote on 07.03.10 at 10:50:31:
still no pictures

interest on 17 and 18
what come all with 18? also the HDD?


1, please open this link for all pics, http://quantum3d.photo.163.com
2, everything you see in the pic and extra cable, also the HDD.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 12:05:52

Maf wrote on 07.03.10 at 11:52:42:

robbleecn wrote on 07.03.10 at 11:49:06:
Items are located at Beijing China.

:-/ How much is the shipping to EU?

shipping via air: 35,00 EUR (<2kg),
shipping via sea+air+land: 25,00 EUR (<2kg),
shipping insure: 1% + 1 EUR

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by exxe on 07.03.10 at 12:06:10
http://www.abload.de/img/nixv2js.jpg

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 12:13:16
Can you calculate for items 2-3-4-7-8-9 with air too belgium plzz(with insurance)

thx

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 12:16:01

Maf wrote on 07.03.10 at 11:05:36:
Interested in 3, 7, 9, 12, 13. Is this an auction or what? :)


First come -first serve??

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by endo on 07.03.10 at 12:21:59
Thank you! How much for shipping for one card or both cards to Sydney, Australia 2260 ? And will they be boxed and packaged well ?


robbleecn wrote on 07.03.10 at 11:56:43:

endo wrote on 07.03.10 at 06:33:20:
I am interested in Items 5 & 6 but your pictures are not displaying ?


please open this link, http://quantum3d.photo.163.com, you will  see all pics of items.


Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 12:24:16

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:13:16:
Can you calculate for items 2-3-4-7-8-9 with air too belgium plzz(with insurance)

thx


About 60 Euro via air, extra insurance is 1% of declare value.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 12:25:56
okay np ;)

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 12:30:24

endo wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:21:59:
Thank you! How much for shipping for one card or both cards to Sydney, Australia 2260 ? And will they be boxed and packaged well ?


robbleecn wrote on 07.03.10 at 11:56:43:

endo wrote on 07.03.10 at 06:33:20:
I am interested in Items 5 & 6 but your pictures are not displaying ?


please open this link, http://quantum3d.photo.163.com, you will  see all pics of items.


For two boxed cards with extra packcting,  About 25 euro via air, 20 euro via SAL.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 12:34:06

robbleecn wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:24:16:

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:13:16:
Can you calculate for items 2-3-4-7-8-9 with air too belgium plzz(with insurance)

thx


About 60 Euro via air, extra insurance is 1% of declare value.


Extra packed?I mean if u put al the boxes in a bigger box with cushioning or bubble wrap or whatever is needed for a safe trip ^^

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 12:41:27

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:34:06:

robbleecn wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:24:16:

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:13:16:
Can you calculate for items 2-3-4-7-8-9 with air too belgium plzz(with insurance)

thx


About 60 Euro via air, extra insurance is 1% of declare value.


Extra packed?I mean if u put al the boxes in a bigger box with cushioning or bubble wrap or whatever is needed for a safe trip ^^


yes, I will put all boxed cards into a bigger box for safe delivery. 

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 12:48:34

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:16:01:

Maf wrote on 07.03.10 at 11:05:36:
Interested in 3, 7, 9, 12, 13. Is this an auction or what? :)


First come -first serve??


yes first come-first serve  ;D

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 12:48:34
oki...
Now im just thinking abouth :custom authorities
Last time i had too pay 70 euro ffs for 1 sealed box,and why...Cos the seller from ebay put on the invoice =>Gift.
So i think the best way for EU people is too hang on the packet an invoice of all items separated wich is also the declared value.Im not sure but custom authorities thinks when smt is sealed its very valueble^^

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 12:57:45

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 12:48:34:
oki...
Now im just thinking abouth :custom authorities
Last time i had too pay 70 euro ffs for 1 sealed box,and why...Cos the seller from ebay put on the invoice =>Gift.
So i think the best way for EU people is too hang on the packet an invoice of all items separated wich is also the declared value.Im not sure but custom authorities thinks when smt is sealed its very valueble^^


I see, declare value of one boxed card separated.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 13:03:38
Example is smt like :

Magic 3D voodoo 1 : 20$
Gainwood dragon : 20$
Jazz Adrenaline: 20$
Voodoo 2 1000 PCI : 50$
declared value is then 110$
And dont put the shiping costs on the invoice^^

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 13:04:48
item 2,3,4,7,8,9 are keep for ALLSTARR.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 13:06:26

ALLSTARR wrote on 07.03.10 at 13:03:38:
Example is smt like :

Magic 3D voodoo 1 : 20$
Gainwood dragon : 20$
Jazz Adrenaline: 20$
Voodoo 2 1000 PCI : 50$
declared value is then 110$
And dont put the shiping costs on the invoice^^


ok, as your wish.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by exxe on 07.03.10 at 13:25:27
still see no pictures  :(

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 07.03.10 at 13:26:00
Thx man,i appreciate what you doing 4 me..Really ::)

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 13:33:32

exxe wrote on 07.03.10 at 13:25:27:
still see no pictures  :(


PM me your mail address, I will send the pics to you.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by masterj85 on 07.03.10 at 14:05:09
im interesded in item 13,15 and 17. Can we make a bundle price?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 07.03.10 at 14:19:55

masterj85 wrote on 07.03.10 at 14:05:09:
im interesded in item 13,15 and 17. Can we make a bundle price?


10+10+10=30,   ;D

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by rottentreats on 07.03.10 at 14:22:02

exxe wrote on 07.03.10 at 13:25:27:
still see no pictures  :(


SeaMonkey is your problem.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by exxe on 07.03.10 at 14:25:29

rottentreats wrote on 07.03.10 at 14:22:02:

exxe wrote on 07.03.10 at 13:25:27:
still see no pictures  :(


SeaMonkey is your problem.


same with IE :p

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by rottentreats on 07.03.10 at 14:27:20

exxe wrote on 07.03.10 at 14:25:29:

rottentreats wrote on 07.03.10 at 14:22:02:

exxe wrote on 07.03.10 at 13:25:27:
still see no pictures  :(


SeaMonkey is your problem.


same with IE :p


Then it's your computer. Reformat. :p

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by oldskool on 07.03.10 at 14:46:47
Confirm ie7 works.

http://quantum3d.photo.163.com

It does have a use! :o

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by exxe on 07.03.10 at 16:55:43
whats the shipping for this 3 items?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by masterj85 on 07.03.10 at 21:56:37
I think 25 Euro sounds better ;) Deal or No Deal?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 08.03.10 at 01:03:32

exxe wrote on 07.03.10 at 16:55:43:
whats the shipping for this 3 items?


Air: 50 euro
Sea+air+land: 40 euro
Sea+land: 30 euro

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by endo on 08.03.10 at 05:02:09
If you go 35 Euros for Item 6, ill take both(5 & 6) plus the quoted shipping.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 08.03.10 at 11:51:57
Item 2,3,4,7,8,9 keep for ALLSTARR
Item 13,15,17 keep for masterj85
Item 5,6 keep for endo

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by Kaktus on 09.03.10 at 10:33:48
How much will shipping be to South Africa on item 12?  :)

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 09.03.10 at 12:10:24

Kaktus wrote on 09.03.10 at 10:33:48:
How much will shipping be to South Africa on item 12?  :)


shipping via air: 39 euro
shipping via surface: 19 euro

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by gdonovan on 02.04.10 at 14:13:37

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 13:59:55:
Recieved my cards a few weeks back, can't say I was thrilled with the packing(or lack of).


Why do people do that? I spend hours packing stuff to prevent damage during shipping. I find it maddening that a fellow collector thinks so little of another.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 16:20:24

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 13:59:55:
Recieved my cards a few weeks back, can't say I was thrilled with the packing(or lack of).

Take a look for yourselfs, a plastic bag was scrunched up in there not sure what that really did, the boxes just got thrown about.

http://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss257/endoz0r/th_DSC01288.jpghttp://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss257/endoz0r/th_DSC01291.jpghttp://i581.photobucket.com/albums/ss257/endoz0r/th_DSC01292.jpg

Im not trying to give this member a bad rap, but people need to be aware when something like this happens and im interested to see how other buyers recieved there items.


I am shocked with your words, I am a 3dfx collector for many years from 2001, I know how to protect boxes and cards, I love them, but you have to know, China Post office do not permit any filling material inside the box except the goods self, I have no choice but throw out all filling material. you did not even contact me and listen to my explain before you sent those word to the thread, I am really really hurt, if you think any box and card damaged, I will refound all your money included shipping cost, is it OK? is this what you want?

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 16:30:25

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 14:22:14:
Yeah no idea, it is very annoying. It's not like these were cheap either, it's like once the money is recieved they do not care how the buyer recieves the item.

This was my first purchase of boxed cards from here, and not a good experience.

When I sent that Matrox M3D to exxe months ago, even though the box was far from perfect I went out of my way to pack the inside of the box, the outside with multiple layers of bubble wrap and then a sturdy box with brown paper on the outside!

It was a work of art haha. ;D

When an item is sent like this also, you have a doubt in your mind if there was damage caused by poor packaging or the seller had the items in the state you recieved them which is not good, you should never have doubt in your mind like that.

I believe the condition was better at the other end from looking at the original sale photos.

It defeats the purpose anyway, these things are collectables and you want to buy something that is as in good condition as possible not recieve it in poor condition.


I belive peoples can communicate each other and try to understand, any problem can be resolved after good communictaion, please don't, I know your feelings that want a perfect box and card, me too, but please try to understand my situation, fortunately, this month I will move to other country and nobody can request me to what can packing into my box. I will refund you all money tommorow.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 16:46:35

robbleecn wrote on 02.04.10 at 16:30:25:

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 14:22:14:
Yeah no idea, it is very annoying. It's not like these were cheap either, it's like once the money is recieved they do not care how the buyer recieves the item.

This was my first purchase of boxed cards from here, and not a good experience.

When I sent that Matrox M3D to exxe months ago, even though the box was far from perfect I went out of my way to pack the inside of the box, the outside with multiple layers of bubble wrap and then a sturdy box with brown paper on the outside!

It was a work of art haha. ;D

When an item is sent like this also, you have a doubt in your mind if there was damage caused by poor packaging or the seller had the items in the state you recieved them which is not good, you should never have doubt in your mind like that.

I believe the condition was better at the other end from looking at the original sale photos.

It defeats the purpose anyway, these things are collectables and you want to buy something that is as in good condition as possible not recieve it in poor condition.


I belive peoples can communicate each other and try to understand, any problem can be resolved after good communictaion, please don't, I know your feelings that want a perfect box and card, me too, but please try to understand my situation, fortunately, this month I will move to other country and nobody can request me to what can packing into my box. I will refund you all money tommorow.

I had several deal with people in this board, Italy, Romania, German, every packet they received did not have filling material inside, the reason is same, I always try to protect the cards by filling some bubble into the original 3dfx box, and any cards and box was delivered safetely until now.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 16:50:13

oldskool wrote on 02.04.10 at 16:38:00:

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 13:59:55:
Recieved my cards a few weeks back, can't say I was thrilled with the packing(or lack of).


Why wait so long to complain ?


I never receive his complain until the complain pops up this board. I am thrilled now.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 16:56:07

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 14:22:14:
Yeah no idea, it is very annoying. It's not like these were cheap either, it's like once the money is recieved they do not care how the buyer recieves the item.

This was my first purchase of boxed cards from here, and not a good experience.

When I sent that Matrox M3D to exxe months ago, even though the box was far from perfect I went out of my way to pack the inside of the box, the outside with multiple layers of bubble wrap and then a sturdy box with brown paper on the outside!

It was a work of art haha. ;D

When an item is sent like this also, you have a doubt in your mind if there was damage caused by poor packaging or the seller had the items in the state you recieved them which is not good, you should never have doubt in your mind like that.

I believe the condition was better at the other end from looking at the original sale photos.

It defeats the purpose anyway, these things are collectables and you want to buy something that is as in good condition as possible not recieve it in poor condition.


I value my honor even in my life and property, I refund your money and you owe me a pology for that words hurt my honor.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 17:05:34

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 14:22:14:
Yeah no idea, it is very annoying. It's not like these were cheap either, it's like once the money is recieved they do not care how the buyer recieves the item.

This was my first purchase of boxed cards from here, and not a good experience.

When I sent that Matrox M3D to exxe months ago, even though the box was far from perfect I went out of my way to pack the inside of the box, the outside with multiple layers of bubble wrap and then a sturdy box with brown paper on the outside!

It was a work of art haha. ;D

When an item is sent like this also, you have a doubt in your mind if there was damage caused by poor packaging or the seller had the items in the state you recieved them which is not good, you should never have doubt in your mind like that.

I believe the condition was better at the other end from looking at the original sale photos.

It defeats the purpose anyway, these things are collectables and you want to buy something that is as in good condition as possible not recieve it in poor condition.


All your money 80 euro has been refund, please take good care of the cards I sent to you.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 17:14:06

robbleecn wrote on 02.04.10 at 17:05:34:

endo wrote on 02.04.10 at 14:22:14:
Yeah no idea, it is very annoying. It's not like these were cheap either, it's like once the money is recieved they do not care how the buyer recieves the item.

This was my first purchase of boxed cards from here, and not a good experience.

When I sent that Matrox M3D to exxe months ago, even though the box was far from perfect I went out of my way to pack the inside of the box, the outside with multiple layers of bubble wrap and then a sturdy box with brown paper on the outside!

It was a work of art haha. ;D

When an item is sent like this also, you have a doubt in your mind if there was damage caused by poor packaging or the seller had the items in the state you recieved them which is not good, you should never have doubt in your mind like that.

I believe the condition was better at the other end from looking at the original sale photos.

It defeats the purpose anyway, these things are collectables and you want to buy something that is as in good condition as possible not recieve it in poor condition.


All your money 80 euro has been refund, please take good care of the cards I sent to you.


Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by robbleecn on 02.04.10 at 18:55:59
I ever trust everyone in this board and everybody who deal with me, but now, I have to say, NO, I don't.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by oldskool on 02.04.10 at 20:17:27

robbleecn wrote on 02.04.10 at 18:55:59:
I ever trust everyone in this board and everybody who deal with me, but now, I have to say, NO, I don't.

This is a real shame  :(

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by razrx on 02.04.10 at 20:24:25
That's really saddening.  I feel for both of you.

I bought some electronics from Hong Kong recently and there was no padding in that box either.  I don't think it's the seller's fault that he can't put padding in the box to protect what the buyer has bought.  Blame the Chinese government.   ::)

I will be much more cautious next time I want to buy an item from China or Hong Kong.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by rottentreats on 02.04.10 at 20:59:33
My V6K and V4 4500 MAC US were packaged very securely (thanks again for that Edmund)  Thank god I missed out on this "anti proper packaging" lameness.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 02.04.10 at 21:40:27
Ouch im so scared now ^^
So in china you cant fillup the box with the boxes inside?
I mean...the boxes are just putted in another bigger box without any protection in the bigger box himself??
Or do i misunderstand...? :o

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by gdonovan on 02.04.10 at 22:53:12

razrx wrote on 02.04.10 at 20:24:25:
I don't think it's the seller's fault that he can't put padding in the box to protect what the buyer has bought.  Blame the Chinese government.   ::)


That is really strange- You are not allowed to pack the item proper?? I wonder what the reasoning is behind that.

Easier to search the packages without making a mess perhaps?  ;-)

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by endo on 03.04.10 at 02:38:55
The seller has requested that I post my apology to him.

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Hi Robbie,

I think this matter has been caused by a big lack of communication, I should have contacted you when the cards arrived but also you have to understand from my point of view that it is very strange when I recieve a package that I have paid good money for with no padding to contain the boxes but only whats inside of them and the boxes have been damaged during shipping, because myself I am a very meticulous person and will go to great lengths to ensure items are packed well but I didn't realise about your Countries shipping policies maybe if I had known that in the first place I would have not bought the items from you because I can get those items most places but I looked for ones that were boxed so it wasn't really what was inside that mattered but the boxes and the condition they were in.

So I admit I am wrong partly but I appretiate you refunding me that, you didn't have to do it but thank you very much.

I have contacted moderators to remove your posts and hopefully the matter is removed from public eyes quickly.

Thanks again.

Regards,

Matthew.

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Also a little snip from a previous message:

Please let me first say that I am very sorry that I have hurt you, I never inteded to do that. Like I said in my original post I wasn't trying to give you a bad name I just wanted to share my experience with other people.

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All in all, the seller did give me a full refund which im very very greatfull for but I did not request that he did that on his own will. Also my original posts like I said previously were not mean't to cause this issue between us I would have happily just gone my own way only after he got upset I had to contact him and straighten things out and apologise.

I only hope anyone reads this thread reacts rationly and thinks what you would do in this situation.

Title: Re: [S] 3dfx items
Post by ALLSTARR on 15.04.10 at 21:20:53
Wel i have too say
I received my items from robbleecn  ::)
6 Boxed Items.Came safely too my home.And yes the packing was a bit risky...but pfeww...it came in a good condition.
Also i have too say that he refunded me 25 euro cos there were 2 boxes in a not very good standing.So i have too say that this is a very very very nice person.
1 st Class Seller

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