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Message started by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 22.10.05 at 01:41:57

Title: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 22.10.05 at 01:41:57
Hello all,

what I remember is that AMD did make an AMD Athlon Thunderbird 1500Mhz  and not an OC'ed 1400 but a true 1500Mhz Athlon Thunderbird, does anyone know if this was has been put into production? because I do remember it clearly, and my colledues at work even recall by selling 3 of them in the past.

It may sound alittle odd but I am not confused with the AthlonXP 1500+ .

I did find this on the Internet about a 1500Mhz Thinderbird  but I'm not sure if it is one:
http://www.pchub.com/uph/laptop/85-19074-2135/AMD-AXMS1500FWS3B-CPU.html


The CPU is labeled with this:
AMD AXMS1500FWS3B

also came across this:

AMD CPU ARCHITECTURE
Will somebody verify the CPU ARCHITECTURE LISTING I have here?

DURON exists as:

   * Spitfire , 0,18 µ, 600-950 Mhz
   * Morgan , 0,18 µ, 1100 - 1300 Mhz

ATHLON exists as:

   * Thunderbird , 0,18 µ,650 - 1500 Mhz (Athlon B from 1 Ghz)

ATHLON XP exists as:

   * Palomino , 0,18 µ, 1500 - 2100 Mhz (XP+ - series)
   * Thoroughbred , 0,13 µ, 1700+ up to 2800+ (1700+ A-Core, 2200+ - 2800+ B-core)

from here:
http://www.conram.com/asusa7v/arch/cpuarch.shtml

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Thandor on 22.10.05 at 03:28:29
As I already told, the AMD Athlon 1500MHz 'Thunderbird' does not exist.

The Athlon 1500 CPU you showed in this link is not an AMD Athlon. It's an AMD Athlon XP Mobile Balanced Processor.
The OPN tells what kind of CPU it is. AXMS is the mobile CPU. The Balanced CPU has 256KB L2 cache and only a 100MHz FSB (Normal AMD Athlon XP's use an 133MHz FSB or higher). The vCore is 1,3V so it won't produce much heat  :)

When looking at the CPU picture it's clearly visible that we're dealing with an AMD Athlon XP 'Thoroughbred' CPU. All AMD Athlon 'Thunderbird' CPU's we're ceramic, not organic like the 'Thoroughbred' CPU's  :)

Yes, there we're rumours about the AMD Athlon 1500MHz. Did it come or did AMD release the AMD Athlon XP in time ?
All questions, someday, even an AMD Duron XP 1500+ popped up, of course it was fake*, just like the AMD Athlon 1500  ::)
*Photoshop- Palomino 'die' on a ceramic packaging with 'Duron' photoshopped on the 'die'  :-X

When 'googling' I see only overclocked AMD Athlon's. Some 1500MHz models for benchmarking, just overclocked AMD Athlon 1400's. thisshows an AMD Athlon 1500. It's just an overclocked AMD Athlon. Probably an 1333MHz (FSB to 150) or an overclocked 1400 since much of the 1400's we're multiplier unlocked.

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Eye-Q on 22.10.05 at 10:32:52

wrote on 22.10.05 at 01:41:57:
The CPU is labeled with this:
AMD AXMS1500FWS3B

That string is a mobile CPU, not a desktop-CPU. If it was a "normal" Thunderbird it would have a simple A instead of the AXMS (the X determines it is an Athlon XP).

The data for that specific CPU is:
Athlon XP Mobile Balanced Processor (Model 6/8)
1350 MHz
OPGA Organic Pin Grid Array
1.30 Volt
max. Temp. 95°C
256 KB L2 Cache
200 MHz Systembus (100 MHz FSB) x 13.5

At OCInside.de there is a "calculator" where you can put in that string and get the corresponding CPU-data.

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 22.10.05 at 11:02:33
@ Thandor

There is a 1500Mhz Thunderbird I just know for sure, thye have told to be rare, but if people don't believe me, then it is hard for me to explain. Maybe ofsome one else told you would of believed them :-/
here some dith proof that it was planned:
http://www.fnl.nl/news/shownews.php3?TickerID=2000.05.29-psm-001

and here LOL
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/09/amd_palomino_to_debut/

"AMD's Thunderbird Athlon core will be taken to 1.5GHz over the coming months, with a part at that speed and another at 1.4GHz to fill the gap between the top-of-the-line chip and the current 1.3GHz Athlon."

"The arrival of the 1.5GHz Thunderbird Athlon paves the way for 1.53GHz, 1.6GHz and 1.67GHz parts based on the Palomino core...."

So there is proof that there were plans of one  ;)
And I am very sure have seen 3 of them in my life at the Computer store where I regulary help out, we don't lie to our customers so why would I lie here. Maybe it is that you only believe in things that allready are and things that not might but are sure to exsist.

@ Exxe

You are right that is an Athlon4., I mentioned the wrong one.

@ the rest

Anyway the info I used to have is hard to trace now, anyways If I get more I will post it asap, hmm sending AMD an email is also not a bad idea...

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Eye-Q on 22.10.05 at 11:19:27

wrote on 22.10.05 at 11:02:33:
"The arrival of the 1.5GHz Thunderbird Athlon paves the way for 1.53GHz, 1.6GHz and 1.67GHz parts based on the Palomino core...."

So there is proof that there were plans of one  ;)

I think that's no question that there were plans of a higher clocked Thunderbird but the 1.4 GHz Thunderbird has been such a heater that a 1.5 GHz Thunderbird would have to be cooled with extreme appliances so AMD canceled that CPU.

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 22.10.05 at 11:37:21
hmm mkay, wierd then these 1.5 Ghz Athons I seen were Athlon4 CPU's as is hard for me to memorise ..... they did run at a clear standard speed of 1.5Ghz which is 1500Mhz and If I can remember the Athlon4 was the Thunderbird for laptops though i could of been a 1500Mhz Athlon4 but I can't recall that, which troubles me still.

Any it was a long time ago but I do remember the Athlon Thunderbird 1500Mhz it's still fresh in my mind.

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Thandor on 22.10.05 at 13:25:30

wrote on 22.10.05 at 11:02:33:
@ Thandor

There is a 1500Mhz Thunderbird I just know for sure, thye have told to be rare, but if people don't believe me, then it is hard for me to explain. Maybe ofsome one else told you would of believed them :-/
Nope, if someone else told me the same I wouldn't believe it either.
I'm 200% sure that this CPU does not exist  ;)

Quote:
here some dith proof that it was planned:
http://www.fnl.nl/news/shownews.php3?TickerID=2000.05.29-psm-001

and here LOL
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2001/04/09/amd_palomino_to_debut/

"AMD's Thunderbird Athlon core will be taken to 1.5GHz over the coming months, with a part at that speed and another at 1.4GHz to fill the gap between the top-of-the-line chip and the current 1.3GHz Athlon."

"The arrival of the 1.5GHz Thunderbird Athlon paves the way for 1.53GHz, 1.6GHz and 1.67GHz parts based on the Palomino core...."

So there is proof that there were plans of one  ;)
This ain't proof, these messages are just rumours.

Quote:
And I am very sure have seen 3 of them in my life at the Computer store where I regulary help out, we don't lie to our customers so why would I lie here. Maybe it is that you only believe in things that allready are and things that not might but are sure to exsist.
I 100% sure you didn't saw an AuthenticAMD AMD Athlon(tm) 1500MHz.
It either was an overclocked CPU or even not an AMD Athlon(tm) at all.

Quote:
@ the rest
Anyway the info I used to have is hard to trace now, anyways If I get more I will post it asap, hmm sending AMD an email is also not a bad idea...
Information is hard to trace since the CPU does not exist.

wrote on 22.10.05 at 11:37:21:
hmm mkay, wierd then these 1.5 Ghz Athons I seen were Athlon4 CPU's as is hard for me to memorise ..... they did run at a clear standard speed of 1.5Ghz which is 1500Mhz and If I can remember the Athlon4 was the Thunderbird for laptops though i could of been a 1500Mhz Athlon4 but I can't recall that, which troubles me still.

Any it was a long time ago but I do remember the Athlon Thunderbird 1500Mhz it's still fresh in my mind.
The AMD Athlon 4 is AMD's first AMD Palomino CPU. It's exactly the same as the AMD Athlon XP but the Athlon 4 was used for mobile computing and could use PowerNow! by default.

1500MHz Thunderbirds in notebooks would be the most riducilous thing in computer history since it would've had a TDP of 78W. In other words : The accu in the notebook would have been useless. (Not to mention the extreme heat it would cause, it would fry your balls :o)

And about believing it's true or not : You told me I wouldn't believe you.... let's turn that upside down : Why dont you believe me ?  ;D

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 22.10.05 at 13:36:16
I have 400% that it does ;) I have had seen 3 of these things myself, but you must do what is best of course, I can't control your mind.

If you call proof rumours yeah then everyone would say it would be hard to believe.... ::)

I have seen them so that's why I believe my 28 year old mind and enslaving my mind won't work so quit it, if you have some usefull ifno please post otherwise skip this topic.

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by NitroX infinity on 22.10.05 at 13:46:56
Obi, ask BalusC, he'll probably know better than you.

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 22.10.05 at 13:47:35
who is that, is that a worker from AMD, I'm not gonna ask a guy I don't even know, I thought at first posting here would solve it, but that was my mistake.

I think I'm gonna ask Marco A. myself, his friend works @ AMD Dresden himself

@ FalconFly I think it is best to close or even remove this topic. it's getting messy, and sorry for asking about the Tbird 1500 it does exsist, it's hard to be removed from my mind, it is best to keep that personal then.

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by NitroX infinity on 22.10.05 at 13:58:59
Obi; BalusC from GoT.

http://balusc.xs4all.nl/Ned/har-cpu-amd-k7.php

Title: Re: Any info of the Thunderbird 1500Mhz?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 22.10.05 at 14:13:57
oke mischien heb ik het tch mis idd

sorry for my dutch yes I maybe mistaken afterall, wtd is worng with me these days. I suppose I hear things that shouldn't be there, must come from my medication I'm tak'n the hallucinations and so on  :'( :'(

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