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Title: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 30.03.13 at 09:00:37 |
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Title: Re: Finaly! (something new) -teaser- Post by exxe on 30.03.13 at 09:16:34
v5pci128postzozj6.jpg
maybe the 128MB help a little bit against bottleneck pci |
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Title: Re: Finaly! (something new) -teaser- Post by m14radu on 30.03.13 at 10:19:10
It's a voodoo5 with 128mb ?
Or is something else ? Glad to see that you are working on a new project :) |
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Title: Re: Finaly! (something new) -teaser- Post by Komponent on 30.03.13 at 12:13:25
Guess the picture file name kind of spoiled the teaser...
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Title: Re: Finaly! (something new) -teaser- Post by NitroX infinity on 30.03.13 at 12:45:34
Not just the filename, I read the text in the picture which also mentions Voodoo5 5500 and 128MiB ;)
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by rottentreats on 30.03.13 at 15:12:15
Very nicely done! (AGAIN!) Something very special! Keep up the great work!
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by NitroX infinity on 30.03.13 at 16:34:06
What processor did you use for this test?
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 30.03.13 at 16:59:08 |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by ps47 on 31.03.13 at 11:42:53
really nice still.
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by G1nX on 31.03.13 at 13:34:12
Hi Komponent,
Good to see you here again. Nice work on this project that we have been waiting for a while now. Perhaps you can share with us some high quality pictures of the rework spots and resistor values so we can replicate this on our cards. For testing the card at full potential you should get a mainboard with PCI-X slots as the card will run at 66Mhz bus speed and thus will not be a bottleneck as with the PCI33 slot. Keep up the good work, G1nX |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 31.03.13 at 15:30:50
Was there ever an instance when I did not share the informations on how to replicate the mods I've discovered?
Was trying to borrow a camera better than that on my phone, yet no luck here, so if one could help by uploading hi-res pics of the front and back of a V5 pci I'll do my part. No BIOS hack is required and the mod is fairly similar to that of a V5 agp. I wonder what to do next; I like the challenge of venturing into unknown but, though I have some ideas, I have not chosen a new mod to tackle, so I'm opened to suggestions... |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by NitroX infinity on 31.03.13 at 16:06:59
Maybe you could increase the RAM on a Voodoo2?
Don't know about the framebuffer, but the TMU's support up to 16MiB each. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Loeschzwerg on 31.03.13 at 16:59:54 Komponent wrote on 31.03.13 at 15:30:50:
Congrats to this amazing work :) Well, you could help me on the memory modification I was planning to do for Obi s Voodoo 5 Mac. Total memory of 256MB :) You proved that a single V4 can handle 128MB, so 256MB should be possible. There are two ways in my mind: 1) get memory with a higher density (32MB per chip) -> ISSI IS42S32800D-6TL 2) stack 16MB modules and wire CS0 and CS1 to VSA100. About that Voodoo 2 with total of 20MB memory, I've got a card from exxe with 1MB EDO ram, but it doesn't work. I've resoldered original memory, but the card still won't work -> card is dead. Now I've got still the memory left over for the 20MB project, but I'm pretty sure the strapping needs to be done right. The problem, I don't have any document on the TMUs :( So how about doing a joint venture :D 8-) |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 31.03.13 at 18:15:37
some ideas:
- voodoo5 5500 agp4x - voodoo5 5500 with 256Mb - voodoo5 6000 with 256mb or even 512mb :) |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 31.03.13 at 19:01:45
@Loeschzwerg
AFAIK there are documented strapping configurations up to 16Mb chips for VSA100 but there are some combinations unassigned so if you have the chips you could try them. Stacking on the other hand should work in theory, but soldering would be a nightmare; I admit I don't believe I could solder piggybacked TSOP86 chips but if anyone can, it would be you. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by goriath on 31.03.13 at 19:09:07 Komponent wrote on 31.03.13 at 15:30:50:
As long as you could provide diagrams and resistor values images are not strictly necessary although still useful (they can be added in any time) ;) So would be nice summarize your whole work, V4 and V5 projects too, in order to preserve informations. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 31.03.13 at 21:57:10 |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by bucksavage on 01.04.13 at 07:17:29
I just had this idea, but it depends on something. I know Voodoo 's can be used in SLI, but can Voodoo 4's or 5's? If yes, then what about a 128mb or even a suggested 256mb Voodoo 5500 in SLI?
Now my other idea was, could two cards be made into one? Hear me out. This might need the mentioned PCI-X slot but anyways, if they could be used in SLI, could they me hardwired together, or soldered at the pins instead of using a cable, then via some sort of dongle, maybe even pcisagp or if possible pci2pci-E, be made to use one slot? I know it sounds odd, but hey, if I am wrong I am wrong but it's just an idea. 2 cards working together. Would be neat, especially if you could extend the SLI to be able to link more than 2 cards, say 4 in SLI? I mean, how did they do the mercury brink right? It worked somehow. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Loeschzwerg on 01.04.13 at 14:45:29
@Komponent: Thx :)
@bucksavage: You might find the following thread interesting: http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1355402726/0 A hardware SLI setup is clearly the better solution, cause it doesn't stress the primary PCI bus, like a software solution will/would do. The problem, we would need to build a secondary PCI bus like used on Voodoo 5 6000 or the AAlchemy and this simply isn't possible, at least not without some very difficult and heavy modifications :( (rebuild a 6000 would be easier if you ask me) So I would go for the software SLI solution, but my skills in driver development are rather bad to none existent... |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by gdonovan on 01.04.13 at 22:35:58
Sweet work!
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 02.04.13 at 05:35:44
@bucksavage
Sorry, can't do that. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by bucksavage on 02.04.13 at 08:18:05
@Komponent: Ok. Was just a random thought I had.
I wonder though.....has anyone tried to make a brick module out of more modern voodoo cards, say V4k or V5k? And how exactly would you hook it into a pc? |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 02.04.13 at 12:12:48
@Komponent,
Excellent work mate! About V5 @256Mb: Same work as Komponent showed plus strapping ball A24 of both VSA-100 to enable second chiptset. Bios must recognize the card with double ram once added 32Mb per TSOP. Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Loeschzwerg on 02.04.13 at 13:45:27 osckhar wrote on 02.04.13 at 12:12:48:
Not sure about that, I think that A24 will only be needed if piggyback two 16MB. Cause this would result in two chipsets, using 32MB is only one. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 02.04.13 at 19:29:40 Loeschzwerg wrote on 02.04.13 at 13:45:27:
A V4-4500 agp only with A24 modification went 32 @64MB once soldered 8 tsops. Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Loeschzwerg on 02.04.13 at 20:09:58
You are right and I will tell you why, the VSA100 on the V4 AGP does have wired CS0 and CS1 to all memory spots. To make use of the 4 free tsops you need A24 to activate "chip select".
But the V5 does only have 4 tsops per VSA100 and not 8, so it addresses only one memory chipset per VSA100. If we go for memory with 32MB per chip we don't need A24, because we don't need to select between two memory chipsets. If we are forced to go for the piggyback method, we need to wire CS0/CS1 (they aren't connected to both VSA100) and A24. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 03.04.13 at 10:28:21
Ok, understood.
So, V4 128Mb mod is done via A24? I did not know it. I checked the Komponent's V4 mod and there was not nothing about A24 strapping but now I remember in such mod there was a file bios mod. Possibly there is enabled second chipset. Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 03.04.13 at 10:44:52
yes, the bios mod is for that
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 03.04.13 at 12:13:08
Thanks Komponent.
If we go for 32Mb per chip. We must play via strapping with: MD10/11/12/13/14 & AAD11/10/9/8/7 Trying to find the right set? Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 03.04.13 at 15:06:24
A23, A15 and B15. Strapping is 4.7kohm to GND.
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 04.04.13 at 10:19:50 Komponent wrote on 03.04.13 at 15:06:24:
Amazing Komponent. I will order tsop 32Mb for mod V5. ps. Would be possible V4 agp @256Mb? Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 04.04.13 at 18:59:50
I don't know if I was clear enough. To set the TSOP capacity a combination of A23, A15 and B15 strapped to GND with 4.7k or not is used. There are documented settings only up to 16Mb for chip but there are other combination unassigned.
They might mean something or not. Until someone tries we can't know for sure. For my personal opinion: BIOS and/or VSA100 might be limited to 64Mb per chipset (a total of max. 2). |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Loeschzwerg on 04.04.13 at 19:55:58 Komponent wrote on 04.04.13 at 18:59:50:
Which would mean piggybacking is the only way. This would at least describe the mentioned 64MB per VSA100 (single chipset) in the spec sheets. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 05.04.13 at 11:03:11
It means by the design of the V4 agp with 8 tsop forma can 'cheat' to the limitations of the card and 128Mb per card is possible. However adding 32Mb per chip in V5 card for his design the only 4 tsop per chip would not be possible to enable 128Mb per chip if it is not done via piggybacking, right?
Anyway, I will add 32Mb per chip and see what happens with set combination of A23, A15 and B15 strapped to GND with 4.7k. Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Loeschzwerg on 05.04.13 at 11:18:16 osckhar wrote on 05.04.13 at 11:03:11:
Yes, that's what it could mean. But we can't say for sure unless someone tested it. If you try the 32MB way, I will go for piggybacking. Shared research :) |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 05.04.13 at 11:29:57
Deal done! 8-)
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 06.04.13 at 21:26:05
Great work Komponent !
Nice to see you back ;). Keep us informed please about the next projects |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 07.04.13 at 14:40:18
Sorry, no money available in the near future to buy the stuff I need to complete the new modds that I have plans for.
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 07.04.13 at 14:41:13
what do you need ?
maybe we can help you ;) Are you thinking of a Group buy for the 32MB 166Mhz ISSI SDRAM Chips ? |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 16.04.13 at 17:13:00
Thanks, but I strongly doubt I can be helped, as the thing I lack is, to be blunt, obviously money ;D
However, I can disclose that I have no plans for 32Mb chips, nor for piggybacking 16Mb chips as these projects are in the best capable hands of Osckhar and Loeschzwerg and as all of us, can't wait to see positive results. For sure when I'll have some free time I will try to produce new 3dfx mods with the available resources, but, no worry, I'll keep you posted. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 27.04.13 at 09:27:37
what about the idea to sold these TSOP sockets on a voodoo5, and then to change the memories anytime as needed :)
Here, an idea about the sockets. |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 04.05.13 at 07:22:44 |
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Title: Re: Finaly! Voodoo5 PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 07.05.13 at 18:57:34 |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 07.05.13 at 19:41:35
Amazing Komponent !
;) This was your first moded V5 card with DVI, right ? |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 07.05.13 at 20:17:03
The first Mac 3dfx card I ever saw with my own eyes / touched :D
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 28.05.13 at 11:43:31
Hi,
Here a V5 MAC versión with ISSI 32Mb per chip TSOP and updated last rev. chip VSA-100. The TSOP memory has been soldered pin by pin with a soldering iron since I prefer it than using an IR system with solder paste. It takes me more time but even so I prefer it. Clean work. Here some pictures. @komponent, A23, A15 and B15. Strapping is 4.7kohm to GND. Does it is same setting than used to 128Mb, right? I mean I must to follow same steps that you used for modding 128Mb and see what happens. Best regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 28.05.13 at 15:52:04
Nice :)
To be honest, I also solder RAM chips by hand. I would first fully replicate the 128Mb mod, then try only B15 (or next only A15) with 4.7k to GND. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 28.05.13 at 16:22:59 Quote:
Yeahhhhh! The old school!!! 8-) Quote:
Excellent! I keep you informed. Thanks, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 28.05.13 at 16:54:36
Excelent Work Osckhar :)
Where did you get the memories ? I want some cips too :) Keep us informed mate ! |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 31.05.13 at 11:50:07
Hello,
I have tried to modify little bit the mod using the VIAS for connecting the wires and so not solder the wires directly on the pin chip ram and only using wires on the back of the card. So, looks the card once done the reworks. Sadly the card oes not work well. It has some artifacts. :( Card is showed with 128Mb bios. I thought the card would work ok even soldering the wires on the VIAS but perhaps those vias are interconnected with others points and for such reason card does not work well. What do you think? Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 31.05.13 at 13:41:17
OH MY GOD!!!!
Problem found! I did mistake on the pins. I connected PIN11 instead of PIN21!! :-[ :-[ Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 31.05.13 at 15:13:16
:o It should really be quick to have it fixed that "oops".
After, if you find the strapping for 256mbit chips the start screen might not show 256Mb, but you will see this in Windows. The RAM is 6ns (166mhz)? I wonder how will it be overclocking as you took the effort to replace the GPUs. Can't wait for you to post more news on how this one goes! |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 31.05.13 at 16:49:44
Great work Osckhar !
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 02.06.13 at 14:17:03
I got the two 128mb moded Vodoo5 cards, the agp and PCI version from Komponent.
Thanks a lot Komponent for the great modding ! So here they are: Voodoo5 Agp Voodoo5 Pci The cards were testd in differents sistems, with differents OS. Used Hardware Tyan S2640 - tested the agp & Pci versions Epox 8K5A2 - tested the agp & Pci versions MSI KT3 - tested the agp & Pci versions ECS K7VTA3 - tested the agp & Pci versions Gigabyte M750SLI-DS4 - tested the Pci versinos under XP and Win7, and i also test my both pci2pcix adapters that i own - same behaviour, just black screen when entering windows Used OS: Win 98 - Original 3dfx driver - Amigamerlin 2.9 - x3dfx_V5_Win9X_1.08.04 - Raziel64 Evolution Driver - Expert Edition V1.01.16 (Lite) With all drivers & boards: entering in the OS wihout problems, colours & Icons sometimes are not displayed corectly ( white icons ) and under applications the sistem freeze. ( 3dmark2001, return to castle wolfesntein, 3dmark2000, UT GOTY, 3dfx donnut demo ) Win XP - SFFT Alpha 48 - SFFT 1.5 - SFFT 1.6 - SFFT 1.7 - SFFT 1.8 - SFFT 1.9 - Koolsmokey - Amigamerlin R3.11 With all drivers and boards: When entering in the OS the screen is black. - Only with the original XP driver - is entering the OS, but the driver does not allow to start any application. Win7 - SFFT 1.9 - black screen when entering windows - Only with the original win7 driver - is entering the OS, but the driver does not allow to start any application. BUT.... there is a board witch surprises me : The Gigabyte 7VKML -chipset KT266 With this board the both cards are running excelent ! No problems in win98 & XP, with all the above mentioned drivers. I had only a xp1800+ CPU, so don't be amazed about the low scores :) Here some screenshots, using the SFFT 1.9 driver: No AA V5 AGP-64mb V5-AGP - 128mb V5-PCI - 64mb V5-PCI - 128mb 2xAA V5 AGP-64mb V5-AGP - 128mb V5-PCI - 64mb V5-PCI - 128mb 4xAA V5 AGP-64mb V5-AGP - 128mb V5-PCI - 64mb V5-PCI - 128mb Some nice shoots @4xAA : Btw - overclocking the cards with the VSA overclocking tool goes up to 188Mhz, after that display errors appear. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 02.06.13 at 17:21:45
Fantastic work, M14Radu! Thank you for taking alot of your time to do these tests and sorry you had the bad luck of having that number of incompatible motherboards. I only tested a few and had the chance that all of them worked just fine with modded cards at least under Win ME and with the two I have now perfect function with XP too. One day we should do a list with the other owners of modded cards.
The only missing thing to make your massive work complete would have been if you had at hand a 64Mb Voodoo5 PCI to benchmark that one too in the same configuration. Funny that the 33Mhz speed is such a bottleneck and it takes 4x FSAA for the Mac Voodoo5 to really show its teeth and overpass the 64Mb Voodoo5 >:( |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 02.06.13 at 18:54:12
added ! ;)
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 03.06.13 at 10:46:26
@komponent,
This afternoon I will start again in the mod. I keep you informed. Yes, memory is 6ns, so I dont expect too much O/C with this memory. @Radu, Excellent work. Once I end Gino's card I will test it on my epox boards and I will let you know. Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 03.06.13 at 10:59:18
What are doing on Gino card ?
Let us know about the 256mb voodoo5 project ! Cant wait to see it working :) |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 06.06.13 at 15:46:03
@osckhar: The card pictured above being modded to 256Mb are you doing it for G1nx? Where do you stand so far? Does it work configured to 128Mb?
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by G1nX on 06.06.13 at 16:34:33 Komponent wrote on 06.06.13 at 15:46:03:
I can confirm that the 256Mb modding Oscar is doing on my card. I wanted a 128Mb card but if the opportunity with higher capacity memory modules presented itself we said let's try it out :) I'm looking forward to see the finished card as well so thank you Oscar for you great work so far. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 06.06.13 at 20:03:13
sounds great G1nx, let's hope that Osckhar will come soon with some good news !
;) |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 06.06.13 at 22:01:36
Very busy week between my personal job, family... so, few time free for working in mods. :(
I have had some problems soldering the wires to pin/pads memory but at the end I found the manner to do it (first time I have done this kind of work). If everything goes well tomorrow mod will be ended! :D I keep you informed. Best regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 07.06.13 at 22:45:28
Hi,
I had some time free and I ended the mod. At the moment we already have a fully 128Mb V5 PCI MAC. :D I still did not try any other strapping set. Card is 100% functional. Here some pics. Tomorrow more pics. Not good light here today. Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by G1nX on 08.06.13 at 00:03:15 osckhar wrote on 07.06.13 at 22:45:28:
Great to see the card working with 128Mb of memory capacity. Looking forward to the next step of the modding. Keep up the good work. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 08.06.13 at 08:09:48
Great news Osckhar !!!
Next stept is the strapping for 256mb :) What platform and drivers did you use ? |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 08.06.13 at 10:20:23
Hi,
I am using a EPOX 8K5A2+ under Win98SE reference driver and card works perfect. I wanted to see if really is added the extra ram. I tried Quake3 4xFSAA 1280x1024 and without problems. A normal V5 cant handle it. Quake 3 did not take advantage from the extra ram since with 128/64Mb card I got same FPS. @Radu, can you confirm it? Best regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 08.06.13 at 14:04:42
Looking good! Found a little time to play with the resistors? Good job!
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by goriath on 08.06.13 at 14:25:06
Did you give up the idea to use VIAS?
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 08.06.13 at 23:22:02 Quote:
Yupe, next week. :) Thanks for words! goriath wrote on 08.06.13 at 14:25:06:
Nope, the problem is the PIN21 has not track and therefore not VIAS. :( Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 09.06.13 at 13:52:24
Did you use under win98SE the 3dfx reference drivers, Voodoo4/5 V1.04.00 ?
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 09.06.13 at 15:48:01 m14radu wrote on 09.06.13 at 13:52:24:
Hi Radu, I used the version V1.04.01b. Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 10.06.13 at 18:43:28
i install the V1.04.01b, but ist still freeze :(
is there a special procedure to install the Drivers ? |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by osckhar on 10.06.13 at 23:14:03
@Radu,
Nothing special. Normal install. About 256Mb project- At the moment not luck. This afternoon I tried all the combination possible and I got 8/16/32/64/128Mb but not 256Mb. :'( Regards, Oscar. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Loeschzwerg on 11.06.13 at 01:40:14
What Komponent and I already thought, 128MB per VSA100 only possible when used all chipset banks. This means 2 chipsets with each 4 banks. The Voodoo 5 5500 only has 4 banks per VSA100.
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 15.07.13 at 18:58:44
I tested the 128 moded cards with a MSI KT3 Ultra and both moded card are running excellent !
I was amazed ! No black screen when entering in the XP. No problems. No errors. No freezes. I used Amigamerlin & SFFT drivers without an issue ! Seems that the problem appears with the MSI KT3 Ultra2 Mobos only. I will take the NB cooler down, to see and compare the KT333 chip revisions....I suspect that here is the difference :) |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 21.07.13 at 05:51:42
Just noticed that both MSI KT3 Ultra and MSI KT3 Ultra2 have the same BIOS revisions binaries available. Maybe this is a chance narrow down what causes the XP incompatibility of 128Mb modded Voodoo5 cards on some motherboards.
If I understand correctly, you have both motherboards available? On Ultra2 you get loadind XP to black screen and on Ultra you have no problems? What BIOS revisions are you running on each one? If they are different, I would try flashing the Ultra2 with the version that currently runs on Ultra and see if that changes anything. Hope you'll have soon some time to check on that and share the results. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 21.07.13 at 06:27:11
Yes, its corect.
I use the same bios version. 5.07 on both motherboards, even swap the bios chips :) With an older bios version there is still the black screen on Ultra2. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by Komponent on 21.07.13 at 06:40:43
So now Ultra2 also works in XP with modded 128Mb Voodoo5?
When you tested back in early June and you got black screen loading XP did it had a different BIOS than now? |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by m14radu on 21.07.13 at 13:17:47
No. Ultra2 still show the black screen.
Only with Ultra is working well. |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by RaptorZX3 on 16.08.13 at 23:27:42
i wish i could ask someone to do the mod on the one i'll get soon, but i bet it would be expensive for me. i wouldn't trust my knowledge in electricity and soldering.
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by ultima on 24.11.13 at 22:27:05
Have you tried to run the 5500pci on a 66Mhz pci slot instead of a normal one??
Perhaps it can use the extra speed?? The agp is nothing morr then a 66Mhz pci version anyway, so ya never know. I will test this with my card coming week, with an athlon xp 2.4Ghz |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by ps47 on 17.12.13 at 00:34:11
bit late to this one, but yes, v5 pci will benefit from the 66MHz pci slot, if you can get a mb which has it.
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by ultima on 17.12.13 at 07:46:58
see my thread for details how much the 64MB 5500PCI benefits from using PCI 66Mhz:
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http://www.falconfly.de/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1385394407/15 |
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Title: Re: Finally! Voodoo5PCI mod to 128Mb The Ugly Duckling Post by anthony on 08.04.16 at 19:26:33
who do you guys never increase lbf allocation size when add more memory? it's very big mistake. only one card, that don't suffer from it, v4 agp
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