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Message started by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 00:34:45

Title: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 00:34:45
Hello all

Since I test 3dfx prototypes under windows 2000 alot, I am willing to install 2K Pro+ SP4 on the following:

PC.1

FIREFOX

AMD K8 Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo Dual Core 2.2Ghz , 2x 1MB L2, S939.
ASUS A8R32 MVP Deluxe ATi RD580 + ATi CrossFire Express 3200
1x Corsair XMS Platinum TwinX2048PTC2 2x 1GB PC3200 CAS2 DDR400
Sapphire ATi Radeon X1900 XTX PCI-E 512MB 256Bit GDDR3 1.1ns Rev.A 0552 8)
3dfx Voodoo 5 5500 PCI 64MB 128Bit SDR 6ns Rev.A1 2900 Prototype Secondary VGA
Creative Labs Sound Blaster Audigy2 Platinum

does Win2K Pro support the ATi RD580 chipset, Athlon64 X2 DualCore CPU, will 2K see 2 CPU's and not one?

Just want to know for sure, these prototypes mean everything to me, and XP does not run that well on them 2K Pro does, the idea is to test 3dfx cards and Prototypes in newer systems and test thier scalabillity.

well there are some problems with 2K with the X1900 XTX and the SB Audigy2 Platinum and there is this unkown device which actually is the rage theater 550 chip, but even when I install the latest Omega driver 6.5 and the Cat 6.5 WDM driver set it does not install the 550 chip. On the Ati ti200 thing dunno what that is either.

for the rest the installation went okay, I think that the X1900 XTX is too new for this system it WDM part that is. the VMAC 5500 Proto went fine as well.
So I think it's back to XP then there the X1900 XTX went fine and so did the audigy2 platinum, unless there is something else I can do?

here are some pics I made:
http://img509.imageshack.us/img509/6412/a64x2dualcoredetectedwj1.th.jpg http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/964/unknownunitsdg9.th.jpg  http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/574/gameportproblemsm0.th.jpg http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/6138/gameportproblembmpaq8.th.jpg

The Athlon64 X2 4400+ has been neatly detected so has the 2GB ram only in KB hehe.

So is there a way to avoid XP and fix my problem with my ATi card and would it matter If I use the official Ati drivers instead of the omega's which I rather prefer because it has a simple control panel.

need some help on that gameport also, dunno if it is such a threat since I use an USB Joystick, it's just that I'd like to have everything neatly installed so now I'm a bit lost here, ran out of options.

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by jandarsun8 on 28.07.06 at 01:55:41
I would think that 2K would support that chipset and yeah 2K does see two procs. Question is though, when AMD pushes out their 4x4 chips, what will any of the OS's see. 2K and XP Pro see two procs, right now, it's only the servers that see more then that and that's depending on what server OS you have. Regular 2K server will see up to four or six I think, I don't remember which. 2K enterprise will see up to 16 or 32 procs. XP on the other hand, I don't know but I think it's only two. Visat when it comes out, will it support a four core CPU? I don't know.

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 02:11:44

wrote on 28.07.06 at 01:55:41:
I don't remember which. 2K enterprise will see up to 16 or 32 procs.



It was "Data Center" I think ???

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 02:12:24
well the the CPU works fine :) but it's the Rage Theater 550 chip in the X1900 XTX which can't be installed even with ATi's WDM driver set, that's the unkown device, I can recall that I had the same with my X800 XT PE but a driver update fixed this problem, I used Omega Catalyst 6.3 and the prob was solved, I had hoped even with Omega Cat6.3 as 6.5 I have now would of solved this prob on the XTX as well as it did for X800XT PE AGP.

and that prob with the gameport of the Audigy2 is abit odd.

anyways these are the only probs I have encountered so far, just hope that there is a way te get rid of them and get those parts installed propperly.

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 02:13:21
2K Server    of course ;)

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 02:15:48

Quote:
and that prob with the gameport of the Audigy2 is abit odd.



The game port doesn't work?

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 02:16:36
hmm 2K server isn't the Issue neither is my CPU , it's the unknown devices and that gameport I look'n for answers not  OS'es hehe

Win2K Pro is the only thing I have , wasn't planned to go for XP Pro, that OS made too many problems, normally I never have probs with pro, I mean the system does run stable but it would look neater to get those things installed propperly.

I need some help with that please, hmm it always used to work with the X800XT PE setup on the dual Opteron, only on this system somehow it only get's half installed:
http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/574/gameportproblemsm0.th.jpg

you go to propperties of that item then update driver sellect it manually from the creative Audigy2 CD and then i find the righjt file according to my system's finder then I install that reboot and again it's installed halfly with a yellow ! on that item.

So that bugs me a little, the theater 550 WDM bugs me most aak the Unknown device
it says that I must disable something, that is something I never seen either oh dear.

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 02:20:18
I think you need an IRQ for the game port.

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 02:22:48
hmm yeah think so too but shouldn't that be done automaticly by the system it's self, what I do know is that my mobo has an onboard SB as well dunno if that has something to do with this prob though.

p.s.
congrats of gett'n a Gold Member Strats  8)

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 02:24:08
did you disable the on-board sound card in the BIOS?

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 02:26:08
hmm partually , i did last time when I had XP Pro on it, XP had no probs with the unknown stuff and game port, wierd that 2K Pro would have this problem and XP Pro not dunno if the difference between those OS'es are that big qua Hardware support?

but yeah I'll take a walk though the bios and see if there are things enabled which should not be :) Thanx for that one  8)

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 02:29:53

wrote on 28.07.06 at 02:22:48:
congrats of gett'n a Gold Member Strats  8)



Whoa! Your right! I made it to "Gold Member Status" ::)

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 02:33:32
I don't know if your board has any serial and or parallel ports. We don't use those much these days. You can disable those and free up some resources ;)

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 02:38:39
well here's my board , it's very state of the art for a single socket 939 board and also one of the last high end S939 boards with ATi RD580 CrossFire Express chipset:

ASUS A8R32 MVP Deluxe:


here the panel:


it's a very nice board filled with lots of gadgets hehe
It's onboard soundcard, gameport's and onboard I/O's for that SB are disabled like it was when I had XP pro on it.

the sound card I use in it is the Audigy2 Platinum it's a well known card not the newest but it's sound is perfect for the things i need it to do. It is placed in the last PCI32 bit slot on the far left, the VMAC 5500 Prototype is placed between the 2 PXI-e x16 slots :) CrossFire and VMAC 5500 PCI is not a prob with this board also a main reason I bought it so I could use my Audigy2 5500 PCI and 2 X1900 class GFX cards.

here the specs of this board:



Hey Gamma does the Voodoo5 need an IRQ as well because I do have a setting where i can Allocate IRQ to PCI VGA it does the following:

with option Yes:
Assigns IRQ to PCI VGA it it request an IRQ and if I do No it  won't assign an irq to the PCI VGA even if it requests an IRQ.

That may come in handy but I do not know if the VMAC 5500 PCI requests an IRQ.

about the parrall prot I can give it IRQ 5 and 7 as only option so dunno what to do there.

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by gamma742 on 28.07.06 at 03:35:58
It looks like you could disable both the the serial header port and the parallel/printer port. And I do allow the PCI VGA an IRQ.

See if that helps with the game port.

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 03:36:00
well I got an update my friends :)

the X1900 XTX's inknown device has been solved by installing the official Ati Catalyst driver bundle + WDM NSP drivers version 6.2 for windows 2000 so that part has been completed :)

now I'm try'n to get rid of the smaller problem the Game port for SBA 2 Plat.

I will keep you updated , we now have more hope that it will work out :)

well the HP Deskjet 3940 also has been installed without probs, the VMAC also with AmigaMerlin 3.1 R11 and V.Control for the control panel for that 3dfx card.
Catalyst 6.2+WDM 6.2 is adviced for people that are planned to run Win2K Pro+SP4 with thier X1K series Radeons! it's the ATi Reccomended driver for 2K Pro +SP4, SP4 is required for that driver set and Microsoft.NET Framework 1.1 and up, I installed 2.0.

Pics soon when after reinstalling that sound card.


Thanx for all the help so far ;)

Title: Re: Win2KPro+SP4 A64X2 probs with unknown devices
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.07.06 at 04:39:24
Soundcard reinstalled still had the same prob with that gameport thing so I disabled it since I use a USB oystick ;)
and as you can see the problems are gone ;D Win2K pro +SP4 is working fully at last!
http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/124/everythinginstalledgameportdisablednoprobswo9.th.jpg http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/2847/voodoomacsettingsanb8.th.jpg http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/7845/voodoomacsettingsbhx6.th.jpg

took so many hours just to get the things in the right place and order.

if you install VGA2 first and after that Primary VGA the system will hang after you install VGA2, the otherway around no problems really odd.

The VMAC 5500 PCI Prototype is alot faster in the OS as in games, more pics and benchmarks soon, everything feels alot better than the way it was.

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