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Reply #45 - 14.11.11 at 19:53:48
 
@goriath,

This is the last time I told you. Please, dont talk about me. Is it enough clear for you?

Listen- With my cards I do what I want. Is it enough clear for you?

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Reply #46 - 14.11.11 at 19:58:09
 
@ Goriath :

Gold leader is not only an excuse for me ! It's a real problem !
He creats problems between people.
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Reply #47 - 14.11.11 at 20:07:41
 
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Reply #48 - 14.11.11 at 20:08:18
 
osckhar wrote on 14.11.11 at 19:53:48:
@goriath,

This is the last time I told you. Please, dont talk about me. Is it enough clear for you?

Listen- With my cards I do what I want. Is it enough clear for you?

- Oscar.



Hey, it's ok dude. Everyone has expressed their own thoughts. What had to be said, has been said and now is written.

It's over for me.
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Reply #49 - 14.11.11 at 20:15:33
 
goriath wrote on 14.11.11 at 20:08:18:
osckhar wrote on 14.11.11 at 19:53:48:
@goriath,

This is the last time I told you. Please, dont talk about me. Is it enough clear for you?

Listen- With my cards I do what I want. Is it enough clear for you?

- Oscar.



Hey, it's ok dude. Everyone has expressed their own thoughts. What had to be said, has been said and now is written.

It's over for me.


Yes, but when you are able to tell me what I deserve or not deserve. You overstep the line and I don't let you.

It is over for me too.

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Reply #50 - 14.11.11 at 20:16:17
 
@trevomacro

This is another point that you won't get. Continuing to post screens about people that express you approval, won't make me change idea, won't make me think that I am wrong. Face it.
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Reply #51 - 14.11.11 at 21:33:20
 
trevormacro wrote on 14.11.11 at 16:39:24:
@ Goriath, Max_R, RaverX, Tim, Backfire, exxe, PS47 :

What do you do to increase the number of Voodoo5 6000?
Aside from the repair!

The facts are there: there is a drop in total number of V5k6 on the planet for the last ten years.

Because people like you do nothing to save 3dfx ! so sad ...
I've left the circle but I still use my cards and I have my projects. I don't talk about them and about of my past in the 3Dfx communities 'cause I've nothing to dimonstrate. I've done and still do my part to keep 3Dfx alive in a low profile mode.
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Reply #52 - 14.11.11 at 22:04:27
 
Some people collect, others mod.

Nice to see someone do such work, it is thier card to do as they please.

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Reply #53 - 14.11.11 at 23:54:30
 
gdonovan wrote on 14.11.11 at 22:04:27:
Some people collect, others mod.

Nice to see someone do such work, it is thier card to do as they please.

Gary


100% true.

But if they mod and they say that by modding they save 3dfx...I find that wrong. Very wrong, if I can say so  Roll Eyes
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Reply #54 - 15.11.11 at 00:38:47
 
Seriously guys, I just cant believe what I just read on the last 4 pages. What the hell is wrong with you? Modding a V5 6k a MUCH BETTER option then sealing it away in some kind of an acrylic case and hanging it on the wall.

That card may be a prototype, but its still a usable item, and overclocked it even gives better performance. Some say "yeah it will run on V3 too", it will - but much worse. I *know* that NFS4:HS stutters occasionally on V5 5500 on 640x480 with FSAA 4x, whatever drivers and whatever the machine, I tried them all. With 6k I bet it runs smoothly, but overclocked - definitely on 800x600. And its not about benchmarking: its about enjoyment.

And this mod really does bring refreshment to a usually dull and slow 3dfx community of which I'm also a member.

A dead card can just as well serve in an acrylic case as a functioning one, but a good card is infinitely more valuable in a working case, under workload (e.g. games).

...killing history? Killing 3dfx? Wow... Sry guys, but I havent seen a bigger bunch of BS in quite a while. If I had the card, I would have modded it too, equipped it with the best memory and best cooling around and did some BIOS-tweaking. Thinking on this, I would do the same to a 1960 Corvette, Ferrari GTO / Testarossa, or even a good old Porsche 944 turbo. Hell, I'd tweak a Golf 1 GTI too, just as I tweaked my old Abit KT7 (works with a Athlon XP-M@2.4Ghz).

Ah whatever, trevor: GJ mate. Go for it! Cool Next step: 512 MB overclocked RAM on a V5 6k !
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Reply #55 - 15.11.11 at 01:25:48
 
elfuego wrote on 15.11.11 at 00:38:47:
Seriously guys, I just cant believe what I just read on the last 4 pages. What the hell is wrong with you? Modding a V5 6k a MUCH BETTER option then sealing it away in some kind of an acrylic case and hanging it on the wall.


OK, this is your own opinion. It's fine.

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That card may be a prototype, but its still a usable item, and overclocked it even gives better performance. Some say "yeah it will run on V3 too", it will - but much worse. I *know* that NFS4:HS stutters occasionally on V5 5500 on 640x480 with FSAA 4x, whatever drivers and whatever the machine, I tried them all. With 6k I bet it runs smoothly, but overclocked - definitely on 800x600. And its not about benchmarking: its about enjoyment.


The problem you describe, doesn't make me think at the VGA as the possible stutter's cause. I was used to play that game with my Voodoo5 5500 @1024x768 FSAA 2x with no troubles. Even if it was like you said, to overclock an old card for performance improvements like better frame rates sounds like insignificant in this case. Overclock the CPU instead could be more productive.

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A dead card can just as well serve in an acrylic case as a functioning one, but a good card is infinitely more valuable in a working case, under workload (e.g. games).


It is exaclty what the most of us do with their cards. If someone prefer to keep the card under the glass for preservation and take it for a ride sometimes because he's a collector, it's fine as well.

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...killing history? Killing 3dfx? Wow... Sry guys, but I havent seen a bigger bunch of BS in quite a while. If I had the card, I would have modded it too, equipped it with the best memory and best cooling around and did some BIOS-tweaking. Thinking on this, I would do the same to a 1960 Corvette, Ferrari GTO / Testarossa, or even a good old Porsche 944 turbo. Hell, I'd tweak a Golf 1 GTI too, just as I tweaked my old Abit KT7 (works with a Athlon XP-M@2.4Ghz).


Honestly, this thread lasted four pages. Everyone expressed their own opinions, maybe in some strong and crude ways sometimes, but I think that none of us has been really offensive.

Now you come here saying that who disagree with this choice, speaking about something beyond the simple usage of these items, it's a bullshiter? Please, calm down.

You must keep in your mind that who wants really to collect this items, do it because he assign a meaning to them. Personally, I collect these items because except for the fun to test them, to use them, they are plenty of precious infos that otherwise you cannot even know. They can tell you a story, and more items together can tell you about 3dfx itself. This fact, from an hystorical point of view, it's the most intersting part (and fun) of collecting. I am interested in this part, you aren't? Hey, it's ok, but don't call me a bullshiter, thanks. This is simply collecting.
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Reply #56 - 15.11.11 at 09:12:51
 
@elfuego, gdonovan :

thanks Smiley
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Reply #57 - 15.11.11 at 09:27:03
 
Hm...

In fact - every owner can do with his stuff what he want to do. This is for sure and nobody can change it.

But what really sucks is, that he publicize it in public forums like a very special work. He connect the card with an adapter. He benched it, he overclock it, he put some other heatsinks on it, replaced memory. Than he botched the fans on the heatsink, ... sorry this all is not the first time that someone did this things. And sorry - that is only plain vanilla. Nothing fancy. Nothing technical impressive and advanced. Only 16% more clock?

And increasing the cards on the planet... what a bullshit. The number of cards is given but the number of runnung cards will be decrease. So the ONLY BIG THING is, to reactivate damaged cards. THAT will be increase the total ammount of runnung cards. But THIS he put aside. Why?

He's a loadmouth, with lack of knowledge about the details to do some very good for all. Particular for fhe community. But no way - only acting like a queens bee.

So let's see if he is of a tough stock. Let's see if he manage a own website with his work. With details to the technical background to increase the number of V56K's. Not only spamming around the forums and some Internet-Magazines with no significnt videos.

Showing good and exacly work with engineering knowledge. All other is to tinker with it.

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Reply #58 - 15.11.11 at 10:21:41
 
elfuego wrote on 15.11.11 at 00:38:47:
...killing history? Killing 3dfx? Wow... Sry guys, but I havent seen a bigger bunch of BS in quite a while. If I had the card, I would have modded it too, equipped it with the best memory and best cooling around and did some BIOS-tweaking. Thinking on this, I would do the same to a 1960 Corvette, Ferrari GTO / Testarossa, or even a good old Porsche 944 turbo. Hell, I'd tweak a Golf 1 GTI too, just as I tweaked my old Abit KT7 (works with a Athlon XP-M@2.4Ghz).
He's primarily killing a dream, the dream to have a 6K: there are a lot of affectionate that still wait for their opportunity and now, everyday it is most difficult to realize. He did nothing good for the community till now.
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Reply #59 - 15.11.11 at 11:03:05
 
Damn, what a bashing party this turned out to be.

Anyway, my thoughts;

1) Trevermarco owning 10 V5 6000 cards and wanting more does not seem like a problem to me. He has the money to buy them and lets us know he has them. I prefer that over those guys who own the Rampage prototypes and seem to keep their mouths shut about it. At least we know where the cards are (who owns them) instead of some unknown person owning them.

2) I do not see the problem with this mod. I assume the heatsinks can be taken off the card again so it doesn't really matter if the heatsinks are ugly. They are only there to cool the chips for overclocking. And lets face it; most of you would jump at the opportunity to see a V5 6000 possibly run benchmarks at 220MHz or higher (dare I say 250MHz even?)

3) If I read between the lines of Trevormarco's posts, I think he's doing this to learn more about the technical aspects of the V5 6000 so he can later on try and repair the dead V5 6000's (Don't ask me how this is going to help him learn, I'm not an engineer). But I could be wrong on that so don't mistake this for a fact.


To make things clear; I have no problem with this mod. But it wouldn't make me happy if this was done with all V5 6000's.
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