Hi to all,  ;D

Well, ¿What do you think about this V4?

http://www.voodoo3dfx.com/Varios/V4%204500%20rara.jpg

Regards,
Oscar

That's an odd one! Where is it from?

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That's an odd one! Where is it from?

From HERE  ;D

Regards,
Oscar

Hola Patience, ;D


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Hum, the seller wrote "a 3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 32MB PCI" and i see an Agp ?

Yes, It Is a little mistake!


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The bios seems enormous and the card small in comparison with the manual.

That eeprom is very rare, I think that this card is a early version!


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Did the seller give you some "numbers" (pcb...) ?

Nop, I don't know nothing obout this card... :(

Regards,
Oscar

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So, you like the Risk

¡I am a 3Dfx Collector!  8)

Regards,
Oscar

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Perhaps you will be disappointed because of that : HOLTEK HT27C512-70

Translate, please!

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All the researchs on this eprom lead to drivers for S3 (Savage) or NVidia (TNT). So let's hope now

:o (Mammma Mia... )  

p.d. Perhaps, it is a hybrid!  :P Well, I don't know... I am waiting that the seller writes to me! He is MISSING! But the card come with a manual 3Dfx and a fan with logo 3Dfx... ¿?

osckhar mi amigo, i think you will be very "BASTARDO!!!  >:(" when you see this;

http://denisf.com/voodoo4mx4500lo.jpg
(hi-res: http://denisf.com/voodoo4mx4500hi.jpg )

Mine's an early nvidia reference beta design, but they sure as hell look similar

//EDIT//
Some google research revealed very few gf2mx that used those gigantic eeproms, and those were even earlier designs than mine.

I think that's a TNT2 or a GF256 SDR.. hm..

@DenisF,


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i think you will be very "BASTARDO!!!  " when you see this;

¿Bastardo?= That word sounds really bad...

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So for you nothing is impossible : perhaps a Voodoo Card but not necessary a V4 4500.

Ok, but it has a notch like AGP4x... Then it has to be or V4 or... (TNT2)... :(

Regards,
Oscar

I must to speak with the seller. There are too much mistakes...  Is possible that Nvidia used fan with the 3Dfx Logo for to built for Nvidia Cards...

Actually, on that one the sticker was changed.

Take a look at the pic of my gf2mx and the pic of that voodoo4mx, the fans are different.
3dfx used 3pin fans, nvidia used 2pin upto the geforce4 i think.

and the heatsink on that v4, matches the one on my gf2mx perfectly.
the only thing different is the sticker.

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Don't you just love photoshop?
http://denisf.com/fakev4.jpg

It's very clear that it's a fake card. note the marked area and the distance on the sticker. [both highlighted]

mate, i think you have some asses to kick

wrote on 02.07.04 at 19:09:04:

Actually, on that one the sticker was changed. Take a look at the pic of my gf2mx and the pic of that voodoo4mx, the fans are different. 3dfx used 3pin fans, nvidia used 2pin upto the geforce4 i think. and the heatsink on that v4, matches the one on my gf2mx perfectly. the only thing different is the sticker. EDIT Don't you just love photoshop? http://denisf.com/fakev4.jpg It's very clear that it's a fake card. note the marked area and the distance on the sticker. [both highlighted] mate, i think you have some asses to kick

Teh 3dfx sticker isn't perfectly centered on the fan.
so what?  :D

It was scratched from another fan, notice the white edges.

Guess Oskar will find out when it gets to him- Trash or treasure.

Thanks to all for yours advice!  ;)

This 3Dfx Card is a swindle... :( Now, What I do?

Regards,
Oscar

The card is a fake? really? i could never guess *g*

anyway, read here; http://pages.ebay.com/help/confidence/isgw-fraud-alert.html

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The card is a fake? really? i could never guess *g*

:P

Anyway, I am still waiting to the Seller... He is missing!

Regards,
Oscar

Probably assassinated by the guy who bought  a voodoo6 from him  :P ;D

wrote on 05.07.04 at 19:49:13:

The card is a fake? really? i could never guess *g*

Don't be quick to scream fraud- There is two sides to every story. The guy might have simply picked up the card that way and never tested it. Swapping a fan is a matter of 4 screws, and taking one off a bad card and installing it on a card that the oem fan burned out happens.

Heck I did it with a GF2MX that conked out.

Just because we can i.d. a 3dfx card from 10 miles away from pcb numbers doesn't mean joe blow public can, he can't tell a PC from a Mac ;-)

Wise words :)

Indeed there are so many (legitimate) EBay Sellers that just don't know exactly what they're selling.

We all have seen 64MB Voodoo2's, NVidia Voodoo3 or (insert desired Brand here) 3dfx Cards that actually turned out to be (not the Brand you expected) 3dfx Cards ;)

I think it's the responsibility of the experienced buyer (especially here, where some people could begin to give individual Resistors or PCI Registers personal Names) to make a sound decision before jumping the gun.

Personally, I never faulted any seller if it was clear that he made a small mistake.

And after all, most (scamming) people would probably rather try to sell a "Voodoo" as a "GeForce", than the way around to make more money, right ? ;)

I have a different theory.

The guy has a TNT at home, and a V4.
He figured there's no idiot that would buy his TNT.. but the 3dfx fanbase is pretty large.

*Whoop-de-poo* goes the guy and changes fan stickers, adds a v4 manual to the picture, and viola! he got 13 euros for it.

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more evidence for my theory;

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got item 4 weeks after payment, damaged case and power suppy faulty, junk seller Unit came damaged. Tried to work with seller for rebate. No response. Paid same day never receiced item over a month no response Fraud Complaint Sent Item paid for and never received. Seller does not respond to emails send him the payment and he has not send me the printer he is a major rip off Unit came month late, broken, incomplete, seller refuses return costs 3 weeks after payment!!! NO RESPONSE NO PACKAGE!!! BEWARE!!! A$$HOLE! Follow-up: NO item....seller finally refund after paypal take action!!! BEWARE!!! SCAM! the seller is not very nice you pack too careless you are mean seller. don't have responsibility I never buy HORRIBLE Packaging!BROKEN PRODUCT! Bad experience!!! NO reply to e-mails!! Item damaged cause poor packaged. THANKS!   Terrible Ebayer. I contacted 4 times to finalize purchase and with no repsonse. Paid 4 but never received, emailed several times but got run around - BEWARE ! Awful, Month Receival NO pwrcord Totally Useless Bad Com DONT BUY FROM THIS USER item never recieved was told "what do you want me to do about it" This person backed out and decided not to complete this automobile transaction

Doesn't seem like "innocent joe", now does it? ::)

Seriously guys, open your eyes for cryin' out loud

hehe, that's what you get for having 3dfx fever.

Serves you right.

wrote on 06.07.04 at 00:20:46:

Doesn't seem like "innocent joe", now does it? ::) Seriously guys, open your eyes for cryin' out loud

Please, it was $15 and your taking me a tad to literally. If the card did turn out to be something rare then it would have been a steal. More often then not sellers can't tell one video card from the next nor do they really care. Most of the time the sellers make good on it, has always been the case for me but then again you do run into dirtbags who won't lift a finger once they get you cash. I would have asked the seller for some pcb numbers or logo silkscreen.

Speaking of which I just sent cash to 2 ebay sellers in Germany, I lucked out and they were both honest and I now have 2 more Voodoo II's (Miro and Voodoomania) for my collection.

I second this.

I also sent cash to a German seller for a fully retail boxed VoodooMania and it arrived yesterday. It's also in great nick and I love it!  :)

I also sent cash to some Italian woman for a fully retail boxed VoodooMania II last week.  She mailed me to say she recieved the payment, but still no sign of the card yet. She has also run into some trouble with ebay locking her user account and other goings on? A possible tie-in with the mob? ;) ;D

Plus, if you think about it, regarding that photo of the fake "v4", look how long the fan cable wiring is, and look where the the fan power connector is located on the card.  Why would the fan cables be produced that long if the connector sits about 1.5cm away from the fan cabling? ::)