Anyone know where this board can be purchased?

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I never heard of a XGI Volari "MC" , not even google spits out anything useful (?)

I'll look into the matter, a friend of mine is looking for one and that is the info he provided.

does it look like the Volari Duo, or is it a total new design?

I have no idea.

Volari Duo V8 or Volari Duo V8 Ultra is what he is looking for.

http://www2.alternate.de/html/shop/productListing4C.html?cat1=009&cat2=217&cat3=000&treeName=HARDWARE&Level1=Grafik&Level2=Karten+AGP&Level3=Sonstige&;

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Darn, no Duo's anymore.
Seems, due to their Drivers/Performance and (primarily) insane Noise most of them got dumped somewhere.
As of now, there's no single one being sold in Germany anymore I guess.

At least I own one *g*

Yep, ebay might be the quickest solution after all (if one turns up).

This is actually funny/strange :
I've never seen a Card become a Collector's Item so quick, barely released, already off the market again (although for obvious reasons).

And it's sold out, as stated by the Shop's Stock/Availability Code...

AFAIK, there is no Shop remaining in Germany that still sells them.
Don't know if they can still order them from XGI.

IMHO, the Volari Duo V8 Ultra suffered a silent death.
Few were produced, a hell lot fewer were sold, and even less were actually used (besides being Testing/Collector's Items).

Oh well, that was the Price of selling a 80dB+ piece of Hardware.
(never in my life heard anything louder than this in a PC, not even a Blacklabel 7000rpm Fan can touch a Volari Duo *g* )

wrote on 11.02.05 at 19:19:25:

And it's sold out, as stated by the Shop's Stock/Availability Code...

Sorry, didn't recognize that.

here you can find some Duos in stock: http://www.geizhals.at/deutschland/a74550.html

Does Volari have its own technology? or is it Nvidia/ATI powered? I saw some from Club 3D, if some are interested I might go and check if they're still there...

Volari is the chip's name. The company which designed the chip is XGI. No nVidia or ATi involved there.

Cool then! So do they have their own output system (like 3dfx has Glide)?

I love when there is no ATI nor Nvidia!

8)

You're forgetting S3's Metal API. And there was another one if I'm not mistaking.

So we're getting to the point that Microsoft's DirectX is literally invading the market.

:P

That is how Microsoft generally works. ;D

wrote on 20.02.05 at 19:41:20:

3Dx created Glide because they needeed it.

Correct.

If I remember, Microsoft had made some promises about Direct X but were far behind and DOS gaming was still very much the dominate force in the gaming market.

If you look at the first early 3dfx games by and large they are DOS based.

Windows 95 was touted as a gaming platform by Microsoft but it got off to a very shaky start.

@LuxKiller65,


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So we're getting to the point that Microsoft's DirectX is literally invading the market.

DirectX has all but won and taken over as the api of choice for game developers  >:(

If not for John Carmack's (id) enduring affection for using OpenGL, nobody else seems to really want to use it anymore  :o

Microsoft has a peculiar way ($$$) of almost always getting what it wants  ;)

I didn't say Microsoft's way of acting's good; nevertheless DirectX is almost the choice for every new game I see. I didn't say it was neither, because that would be hypocrite from me.

The Xabre chip maybe?

I had posted about this card about 8 month to a year ago but at the time, Club 3D had a link to an England site or someplace (can't really remember) but they wanted way to much for the card vs performance especially with the driver issues they were having at the time along with performance against ATI or Nvidia at the time so I lost interest in it. Now that the Kyro cards are near to useless and don't seem to be coming out with anything anymore I think XGI has the best chance to hopefully one day give the two big boys a run for their money. I hope they stick with it at any rate. Sorry this wasn't really any help with finding the card but if I find something on it, I'll post it.

wrote on 28.09.05 at 05:08:35:

Now that the Kyro cards are near to useless

Useless? Why useless, I'm still using one and planning to put another one in another PC, they run games like RtCW, Q3, Diablo II, Unreal and many other just fine!

Ok, your right, they are not "useless", I didn't really mean it that way. I have two of those cards my self and swap it out with my V3 depending on what games I play. Was more or less just in the over all context, that's all. More just frustrated with the fact that they had a great card and that nothing has come out since the Kyro II, that's all.

Now that S3 is back, what does XGI have as new card anyone know about what XGI's plans are?

They have the 8300, 8600 and (later) the 8900-type Cards on schedule.

The Volari 8300 will be revealed on Nov 9th, so it's just a few days.

Some Images and description :
http://www.tgdaily.com/2005/05/31/computex_taipei_2005_day_1/page21.html

Generally looks like a similar market as the S3 S20 series, so the battle for Budget, OEM and inexpensive Mainstream continues :)

hmm looks nice the XGI Volari 8600:
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0506/imgs/computexXGI-rosa-050525-009.JPG

XGI Volari 8300 :)
http://www.oc.com.tw/article/0506/imgs/computexXGI-rosa-050525-005.JPG

XGI Volari Z7:
http://www.cdr.cz/picture_/18626/small
I wonder if the 8600 will also be available in dual board setup.

here a diagram of the techspecs of all Volari 8300 and 8600 models:
http://img46.imageshack.us/img46/651/xgispecs3vz.jpg

and here specs of the Volari Z7 PCI 128MB:
http://pics.computerbase.de/news/10396/2.jpg

"but according to Danny Lee, they should be within the next two months."

...referring to the XGI 8600...
this interview was on 31.may 2005...

so i think, XGI has no chance.... as S3, they are to late in presenting a competitive geforce6600 product...


... cause nividia soon will launch der 7x00 series value products...

Found this if this helps.

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=307&num=1

@ TM30


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... cause nividia soon will launch der 7x00 series value products...

well they have been on the market for quite some time, only thing is there are no Mainstream GeForce7 vased cards, so they are still pointless for the Mainstream user, S3 S27 is still the best choice for the Mainstream, you are talk'n about High End, while XGI and S3 are headed at Mainstream.

and nV's only Mainstream product is thier Geforce 6600 based card, so XGI & S3 arent late at all ;)

wrote on 07.11.05 at 05:22:50:

nV's only Mainstream product is thier Geforce 6600 based card, so XGI & S3 arent late at all ;)

And for a "mainstream" part it is very powerfull.

Most mainstream users have integrated graphics ;-)

i do not mean mainstream users, i mean mainstream graphic cards...

nevertheless, they are to late. fact.

... we will see it, how much market share they will be have. i guess it will be not much.

well imho Mainstream Graphics refers to the Mainstream market TM30 :) same word same meaning lad.

Anyways still happy to see S3 and XGI in buisness @ least it's finally something else than the old same ATi or nvidia, those brands can be bored at times, same sh*t different day really.

question is how long S3 and XGI will be exist... XGI will have no chance, S3 perhaps... but only for a very very small range of customers. S3 Delta Chrome was hardly available... only one retail manufacturer in germany: Club 3D

Club3D is a dutch Company afaik.

but Power Color also had XGI and S3. I think S3 will do just fine also XGI, the most people with PC's are Asian People, and that is where S3 and XGI get most of thier proffit from.

Brands like ATi & nVidia, are not that important for budget people, they rather go for low cost and low power products and S3's S27 and XGI's 8600 cards don't use much power at all and are low cost and do perform like that of a much more expensive NV43 aka GeForce 6600 GT / R430 aka Radeon X700 based card.

So I think S3 will do fine, they have been on the market longer than ATi nor nVidia, Underdogs Like S3 & XGI don't die so quickly as many people think, I see good futures for those two.

Yep, they are both quite active and successful in the Chinese/Far Eastern market, just never managed to sell their product to Europe or USA in significant numbers.

Seeing they both had their learning curve with the Volari and DeltaChrome, Drivers aren't such a big problem anymore.

The only thing that continuously endangers their new Products are 2nd or 3rd line ATI/NVidia products that manage to outperform them at lower 2nd Hand prices off Ebay or alike...

Having had both for quite a while, I can safely say they're not bad hardware for their audience, but are still facing extreme competition they (so far) had a hard time competing with by all means.

Well was just at Micro Center and they are selling the XGI V5 for about 54.00. First time seen one of these cards for sale at all, in any store, where I live. Cheap enough that I'm almost thinking about picking it up just to see what it's like.

well it should do games quite fine, for 54 bucks it's a bang for the buck that's for sure ;)