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Reply #15 - 24.05.05 at 19:01:57
 
I think Obi-Wan was referring to the AAlchemy 4116.
The 8164 has indeed a different layout, more 4x2 then
2x2  Tongue
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Reply #16 - 24.05.05 at 21:23:24
 
oh yes sorry I was , The 4116 was my confusion, sorry Gary and everyone else. Cry
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Reply #17 - 24.05.05 at 22:06:39
 
Aren't those AAlchemy boards much bigger than a V5-6000 for example and used a proprietary Bus connector ?

IMHO that likely would make the design possible with more space to design around.
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Reply #18 - 24.05.05 at 23:14:55
 
Yes FalconFly, you are completely right this board is alot bigger then your v5 6000.

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A good example is to look at the header bracket. It covers
only 2/3 of the entire board while yours covers the entire board.
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Reply #19 - 25.05.05 at 00:47:49
 
no he meant the AALchemy 8164's Smiley

the one you showed is the smaller 4116 Cheesy
Oh well we both can get confused hehehe

here the AALchmey 8164 and yes it is very BIG :

<SNIP> Do NOT direct link to my site please.

I think it dwarfs the Voodoo5 6000 with ease.
oh here the AALchemy 4116:

it's alot smaller also, if you look at the distance between the end of the PCI connector and till the ending of the PCB, but they both have the layout and rough design of the comdex 2x2 V56K.
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Reply #20 - 04.07.05 at 19:14:46
 
well, I suppose V5 6000 were to compete with the GF 2 Ultra,
in that sense.
it is still the same range of cards they are fighting with,

perhaps the rampage would have been V6 instead .. which could well be up against teh GF3 if they had stayed in business
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Reply #21 - 06.07.05 at 11:20:19
 
the Voodoo5 6000 performance is even faster than a GeForce3 Ti200 in most cases, and some times it can beat a GeForce3 classic.

I read a thread about it over here:

here it beats a GeForce3 classic in 16 Bit colours with the game Evolva @ 1600x 1200 x16!but at 32bit it can keep up, so it would beat the Ti200 with ease.:
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here a test at expandeble at 1024 x 768 x16 and x32, it would indeed perform like a GF3 Ti200, the Ti200 isn't listed, but it would come across it, the Gf3 ti200 was faster than a GF2 U but slower than a GF3, so the V56K would come across towards that.
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In Quake3Arena the V56K is faster @ 1204x768x16 than a GF3 but in 32Bit the F3 just scales it , @ 1600x1200 the GF3 is slightly faster, to me the performance is equal.

here a test of Q3A in 1024 x 768 x 16 & 32:
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and here @ 1600x 1200 x 16&32:
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Jedi Knight II Jedi Outcast the GF3 get's it's prize the V56K performs well though:
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but the tablles turn in Serious Sam the Second Encounter, the V56K would perform like a GF3Ti500 in this game, rather impressive!
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so the V56K would of made it rather well, it may yet have saved 3dfx afterall.

here is where I got the infor from, I thought it was rather interesting to Post:

A Fallen Titan's Final Glory, Part I: Setting the Stage:
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=412

     
A Fallen Titan's Final Glory, Part II: The Voodoo5 6000 Reviewed:
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=413

A Fallen Titan's Final Glory, Part III: What Might Have Been.:
http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=414

I know not all info is correct on the further cards themselves, but the benchmarks are perfect, and the history is roughly correct, but yet again a very nice info source.
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Reply #22 - 06.07.05 at 21:02:25
 
@Obi-Wan_Kenobi,

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so the V56K would of made it rather well, it may yet have saved 3dfx afterall


I doubt it, it would have been to expensive for all but the most hard core gamers/3dfx fans.

3dfx needed a card that would have generated massive sales/profit, they did'nt have that card at that particular time.

3dfx was all but broke after acquiring STB and gigapixel, VSA 100 based cards did not sell as well as anticipated and with no money in reserve to sustain them until the release of Rampge they sold out to nvidia  Sad

Here's another good article -

Part 1:

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/05/15/nvidia1/index.html

Part 2:

http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2002/05/16/nvidia2/index.html
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Reply #23 - 07.07.05 at 01:49:31
 
yeah those stories hurt my eyes, at least ATi survived, never like NV that much.

let's hope that the other brands come back to the high end sector, still miss 3dfx quite alot, they should of never went on thier own, that was also a great setback, when they went on  on thier own.
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Reply #24 - 04.01.06 at 04:48:12
 
I wonder who invented the Voodoo5 6000 it's self just the idea of a quad chip SLI based card, Scott Sellers maybe?
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Reply #25 - 22.01.06 at 03:54:03
 
well,

if it did make it to the market,
MSRP was intended at US$ 600

so, its still a whooping price to pay when a GF 2 Ultra may cost about 2/3 of that price only and still overall performs just as good except for FSAA perhaps

biggest mistake they make is delaying the V 5500 for too long
and it ended up so far behind the regular GF2, GTS/Pro
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Reply #26 - 22.01.06 at 16:34:34
 
in some cases the V6K beat the GeForce3 aslo, it would of done well as most High end gamers go for the best I would of anyways Smiley
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