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Late 4500? (+ discussion of a VSA101 on a V4/5)
02.05.06 at 20:53:02
 
I own a 3dfx Voodoo 4 4500 which has a PCB date of 3900... think this is very late for a 3dfx-own card, is it? Does somebody else owns a 4500 with this PCB Date or even more late?

( I know that Powercolor and other companies made Voodoo4's even more late but that doesn't matter here Wink )

Another question: Is it known that 3dfx placed also Daytonas   (VSA101) on 4500 cards? or only on very few 5500...? Is it possible to detect a daytona by a late PCB date or where these VSA101 soldered also on "young" 5500 PCBs?
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Re: Late 4500?
Reply #1 - 02.05.06 at 20:59:27
 
I don't think so since the Daytona chips have dfferent pinouts and other memory support.

the latest Voodoo4 4500 PCI and MAC4500 PCI + DVI I have seen were both Rev.A's From week 37 year 2000, the latest 4500 AGP I've ever seen was a Rev.A0 from week 33 year 2000. there are also Rev.A0's from week 35 year 2000 spotted, but if your 4500 is from week 39  year 2000 rather funny that it's not a prototype then.

do remember that not all prototypes have NFR tags on them.
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Reply #2 - 02.05.06 at 21:02:44
 
huh? think you messed up  Wink

my card is 3900 and not 3999  Grin its definatly a production card... it has the 3dfx fan decal (not the aavid)

and actually there are VSA101 on generic voodoo 5 5500 boards! someone at 3dcenter.de owns one... it can do 200Mhz+  8)

but nevermind, i will put it in my test rig now. i have read that the everest software can read out if its a VSA100 or VSA101...
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Re: Late 4500?
Reply #3 - 02.05.06 at 21:06:13
 
OMG!

it says VSA101...









































... just joking Wink Everest says VSA100 napalm...

but can you trust in this software?
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Reply #4 - 02.05.06 at 21:06:44
 
Please re-read my post before you complain...

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the latest 4500 AGP I've ever seen was a Rev.A0 from week 33 year 2000. there are also Rev.A0's from week 35 year 2000 spotted, but if your 4500 is from week 39  year 2000 rather funny that it's not a prototype then.

Do remember that not all prototypes have NFR tags on them.



I did state Week 39 year 2000 didn't I Roll Eyes
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Re: Late 4500?
Reply #5 - 02.05.06 at 21:10:25
 
yeah Obi but just imagine a V4 4500 prototype in 3900!!!! thats not possible! Cards were ready for the market in 1900-2500... why make a prototype of a one of a million V4 with this late date Wink

but lets wait what others say about date, and even more interesting for me the questions about VSA101...
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Reply #6 - 02.05.06 at 21:14:31
 
it might be a woops, but a 4500 of week 39 year 2000 is very well possible since that the Voodoo4-2's relay from week 30 to week 46 of year 2000 and Voodoo5 6000's from week 07 to week 39 of year 2000, so it is verywell possible that your cards is from week 39 year 2000 as a final production model from the 39th week of 2000 as the latest production model after that week no more 4500's were built, thereby production stopped.
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Reply #7 - 02.05.06 at 21:16:08
 
it IS actually possible since i own one hehe  Grin
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Reply #8 - 02.05.06 at 21:17:09
 
yeaps it ism unless it was a woops that 3dfx meant to put week 35 or 37 on it instead of week 39 hehe

what is it's Bios?
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Reply #9 - 02.05.06 at 21:23:51
 
no i don't think so... i will pop off the heatsink and look what date the VSA100 (or hopefully VSA101 Wink ) has...

erm Bios 1.15
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Reply #10 - 02.05.06 at 21:27:55
 
hmm Bios 1.15 seems normal heh same bios as my Voodoo5 5000 AGP sweet Smiley that's cool.

I hope it's a VSA-101 too mate Smiley
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Re: Late 4500?
Reply #11 - 02.05.06 at 23:14:24
 
VSA100 as expected...

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but anyways, there is a woops i think at that "TAIWAN 1z01"

nearly on all other voodoos is printed "TAIWAN 1001"
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Re: Late 4500?
Reply #12 - 02.05.06 at 23:18:11
 
Daytona has different pin out, the PCB is not interchangable.
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Re: Late 4500?
Reply #13 - 02.05.06 at 23:22:39
 
so there are no generic 5500 out there with VSA101 onboard?
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Re: Late 4500?
Reply #14 - 03.05.06 at 01:07:38
 
VSA-100 and a 1/2 then...LOL! Grin

But that sure is a whoops on the VSA chip... Roll Eyes

...maybe it just reflects a late rev. of VSA-100 ???
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