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Taking screenshots
31.07.04 at 19:24:59
 
I cant take any in-game screenshots with my voodoo card...Is there any programs that will help this situation...Im trying to take screenshots of verbal abuse as well as cheaters in game to send to their CO's...but all I get is a muffled screen...


Also a friend is giving me a voodoo 5, but has a fan out...can it be replaced? and with what ?and where do I get such an animal?...lol
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Re: Taking screenshots
Reply #1 - 31.07.04 at 23:15:26
 
For screenshots - Hypersnap DX 'should' work! Wink

As for the V5 fan, exactly WHAT is wrong with it? ???

Is it broken? ???

Is the fan O.K. but the wire broken? ???

Let us all know and we'll see what we can come up with (the whole forum that is...) Roll Eyes
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Reply #2 - 31.07.04 at 23:21:22
 
If hypersnap somehow dont work try FRAPS. My personal favourite.
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Reply #3 - 31.07.04 at 23:38:51
 
@Hammer,

You can try fraps for taking game screenshots, movies and showing fps.

If you can't find an identical AAVID replacement fan, you could try to purchase a couple Thermaltake A1178 Crystal Orb's or even blue orbs, this is a mod I have done to my 5500 and along with ram heatsinks allows me to overclock up to 196 mhz before seeing artifact's  Smiley

Do not try to play games with your card until you resolve the fan issue, your card will most likely lock-up from over heating or worst case you'll fry the gpu !
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Reply #4 - 01.08.04 at 00:06:26
 
If there's no overclocking and the case isn't an oven inside you can take the other fan off, it's not required. 3dfx themselves said that the VSA-100 chips were on the border of requiring active cooling.

It also reduces noise. Those fans make one hell of a noise.

I myself modded my V5 5500 to have Zalman ZM-NB32J heatsinks.

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Reply #5 - 01.08.04 at 00:32:02
 
Wow guys thanx for the quick reply's!...I dont have the card yet, it is being shipped to me....So I really only know that a fan went out...dont know if the card is in good shape or otherwise...I thought he said it was fine but a fan went out and he didnt want to burn it up...

My card( voodoo 3 2000) freaks out every so often so wanted another one....dont know what causes it...I tried all kinds of drivers and could never even get the glide to work at all till I got amagmerlin 2.5 for XP....


I just kinda wonder if the card got to hot sometime or something along that line....I can never know anything is wrong with the card until I try to use it with a glide game....then what happens is I see some of the graphics garbled and sparkling...its strange...

thanx for the info tho.
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Reply #6 - 01.08.04 at 03:07:44
 
@Hammer,

Congratulations on your acquiring a 5500, will make a nice upgrade fom your voodoo 3  Wink

Have to disagreee with NitroX infinity, my experience (have 2 agp's and 1 pci)  and reading about 5500's is that they run hot, they did a terrible job of applying a low quality thermal adhesive at manufacturing. On all 3 (6 gpu's) of my cards there was just a glob of compound in the middle, maybe giving 50 - 60% total surface area contact between the heatsinks and gpu's, also the adhesive was discoloured (dark brown) showing signs of over heating  Sad

If you wanted to mod from the factory set-up to a similar set-up such as NitroX infinity's (high quality heatsink and a properly applied thermal adhesive) you'd be fine, but you should check the adhesive when you  get the card and ensure that there's a high percentage of surface area contact, and as I previously stated, check for adhesive discolouration. If you observe these conditions I would not recomend playing games without having both fans functional.

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Reply #7 - 01.08.04 at 09:44:02
 
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On all 3 (6 gpu's) of my cards there was just a glob of compound in the middle, maybe giving 50 - 60% total surface area contact between the heatsinks and gpu's, also the adhesive was discoloured (dark brown) showing signs of over heating


That's epoxy, it's supposed to discolour Grin
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Reply #8 - 01.08.04 at 18:49:52
 
@NitroX infinity,

Not trying provoke an arguement about this but the applied epoxy on my card's were with out a doubt  burnt and charred, not just some minor discolouration.

Using the original 3dfx set-up and Tweakmonster ramsinks, this card would lock up (from heat) at around 180 mhz, there was no evidence of any visual image corruption indicating reaching the limits of the Hyundai ram.

After modding the card as I have previously stated, I can now overclock to 196mhz, thus proving that better/superior gpu cooling allowed for this 16 mhz improvement  Wink

I have read dozens of article's on overclocking VSA-100's, all stating that these chips run hot. If as you stated earlier, these chips were running cool, you would have to assume that 3dfx would have taken advantage of this gpu headroom and released the VSA-100 based cards at higher clock and mem. speeds thus improving fillrate. Remember, 3dfx desperately needed to retake the performance crown from Nvidia at this time, with the hopes of regaining lost sales and prestige. History (3dfx's demise) has proven that they were somehow incapable of this.

Although even to this day I am still an avid 3dfx fan, I realized long ago that 3dfx is solely to blame for their fate, missing key product release deadlines and milking the Voodoo architecture for all it was worth was the beginning of the end  Embarrassed
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Reply #9 - 01.08.04 at 21:04:19
 
Although even to this day I am still an avid 3dfx fan, I realized long ago that 3dfx is solely to blame for their fate, missing key product release deadlines and milking the Voodoo architecture for all it was worth was the beginning of the end  

im with you on this, im gonna be a fan forever but they did this to themselfs, (what nvidia did in the end was make sure we would never have suport for our cards , trying to put the stake in the heart of 3dfx)

i had a v5500 agp w/o the heatsinks on and was
testing a new system and fried that card pretty quick, i have geforce4 copper coolers on my card im using and i can feel it slightly warm to touch, for my own piece of mind the only time i dont change the heatsink set up on the v5500 is if its just for display on the wall, but thats just me Wink

NitroX infinity, by the way i like that mod you did, very nice Wink
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Reply #10 - 01.08.04 at 23:13:54
 
@VDX,

With out at least having the heatsinks still on (some basic form of protection from generated heat), let alone not having functional fans, I'd be willing to bet the farm that a VSA-100 based card would'nt last more than a minute or two before one of the gpu's exploded after starting up a game.

I personally was never really that upset about Nvidia acquiring 3dfx, it's the nature of the beast in the business world. What really pissed me off was that Nvidia decided not to offer any driver support what so ever to myself (I had a 4 month old $380 card) and other 3dfx card owners (back in late 2000 this would have been a substantial number of owners), it was literally like a slap in the face to the 3dfx fans/card owners around the world.

Because Nvidia's Management decided to take this position on 3dfx driver support, I personally have decided to take the stance that I will never spend a penny on an Nvidia based product "ever". Back in Febuary of this year I decided it was time to replace my beloved 5500 with a newer system and video card to be prepared for the impending release's of Doom 3, Halflife 2 and the new wave of games that I'm sure will be unplayable on my 5500. I decided to put my money were my mouth was and purchased a Radeon 9800 pro, so far I have been extremely pleased with it's performance and fantastic image quality  Grin

F@ck Nvidia !


@NitroX infinity,

Sorry, I forgot to mention in my previous post that I think your mod is an excellent idea for reducing fan noise and still offering very acceptable cooling for the card, I just believe these stock cards run on the hot side, so please do not take any offence to my opinions or statements. Us remaining 3dfx folk need to stick together "were a dieing breed", Kind of like the last of the Mohicans Eh.
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Reply #11 - 01.08.04 at 23:46:11
 
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I personally was never really that upset about Nvidia acquiring 3dfx, it's the nature of the beast in the business world.


Too true, it does rank that they helped things along.

The BS counter-lawsuit they threw down right before the end was a joke designed to break the camels back.

Nvidia was going TO LOSE the multi-texturing lawsuit bought about by 3dfx, and rightfully so since Nvidia was infringing on it with the TNT cards.

3dfx simply didn't have the cash to fight it out in court.

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What really pissed me off was that Nvidia decided not to offer any driver support what so ever to myself (I had a 4 month old $380 card) and other 3dfx card owners (back in late 2000 this would have been a substantial number of owners), it was literally like a slap in the face to the 3dfx fans/card owners around the world.



Can't blame Nvidia for that, they bought the core assets of 3dfx, support was clearly left to 3dfx and Nvidia made that very clear at the time.

Core assets and customer support are two different things.

I own an 9800Pro and I'm pretty pleased with it, I don't care for Nvidia sleazy marketing and bad drivers. Just let the product speak for itself.

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Reply #12 - 02.08.04 at 00:18:04
 
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What really pissed me off was that Nvidia decided not to offer any driver support what so ever to myself (I had a 4 month old $380 card) and other 3dfx card owners (back in late 2000 this would have been a substantial number of owners), it was literally like a slap in the face to the 3dfx fans/card owners around the world.

Don't forget the action nVidia had afterwards;
give us your 3dfx card and you'll get a $10 discount on any new nVidia card Angry
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Reply #13 - 02.08.04 at 00:36:14
 
Ok so back to the question at had...heatsinks or fans?...which is better for my replacememnt?

BTW HYpersnap nor Fraps worked for taking the screenshots...there were lines across the screen and even stuff was seen that wasnt there...lol...weird numbers and stuff...if I knew how to post a pic here (PC illiterate) I would show yas
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Reply #14 - 02.08.04 at 00:43:04
 
Hm, make sure you enable the "Capture -> Enable Special Capture (DirectX/Glide)" Option hidden in the advanced capturing Options Menu of HypersnapDX.

Otherwise it likely won't work, and the Results will be unusable.

(don't know why, but this Option isn't enabled by default)
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