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20.11.05 at 20:54:10  
Does anyone know which chip is faster for gaming? I know that the Athlon XP 3000+ Barton runs at 2.16GHz with 512 L2 cache and operates on the 333MHz FSB.

Now the AMD Sempron 3300+ it runs at 2.0 GHz and also shares the 333MHz FSB like it's older brother but has only 128 L2 cache

Both of these chips are Socket 754 Processors and I had hoped to run the faster of the two on the EPoX 8K3A Motherboard.

I know the Barton will run on the EPoX 8K3A but has anyone tried the Sempron?
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Re: 3300 Sempron vs 3000 Barton
Reply #1 - 21.11.05 at 01:29:41  
Hmm... So there is a difference 754 and S754?

What I am trying to do is go a little bit faster with a 3.3 volt Voodoo5 card (the 6000). Not many fast motherboards support 3.3 AGP Sad

I thought I could drop a Sempron in this board.
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Reply #2 - 21.11.05 at 03:32:25  
Well you could see it this way the best CPU for the VIA Apollo KT333 chipset is the AthlonXP Barton 3000+ with 333Mhz FSB , period.

the AthlonXP Thoroughbred-B 2700+ with 333Mhz FSB runs at the same speed aka 2167Mhz, only the Barton 3000+ has an L2 of 512KB instead of 256KB from that of the 2700+.
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Reply #3 - 21.11.05 at 22:56:53  
the good thing about those EPOX boards is the OCing, you should be able to get close to 400 fsb with that board, of course if you dont have an unlocked barton there will be a problem, in that case i'd get the 3200/400 barton. dont forget to forget what max cpu they have listed, i ran my 2500 barton at 2800 speed in a EPOX with the 266a chipset.
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Reply #4 - 21.11.05 at 23:35:42  
I like living on the edge, but I won't be overclocking with the V6K on-board.
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Reply #5 - 22.11.05 at 09:29:59  
thats np with this board im pretty sure there are divisions on the settings so you dont have to oc the agp when oc the fsb on cpu, pretty sure its that way, check it out.
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Reply #6 - 22.11.05 at 17:00:12  
I have a friend that took a 2500+ Barton on an Abit Motherboard changed the FSB from 166 X 2 to 200 X 2 and it ran very well and posted as a 3200+ Barton.

Too bad it was an 8 X AGP Mainboard ???
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Reply #7 - 22.11.05 at 19:53:20  
well gamma i bet u can do it on the epox board too, and if that all ur going id try and just throw a 3200/400 barton in there Roll Eyes
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Reply #8 - 23.11.05 at 15:31:12  
Well I remember that there is a Barton 3200+ with 333Mhz FSB, I have seen them in france and they do exsist as seen in OEM sales. But I'd go for the Barton 3000+ with 333Mhz FSB they are just easier to get.

here the full proof of the Barton 3200+ with an FSB of 333Mhz:

http://www.tranders.com.ar/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=228


here some more:
http://www.wireshop.it/prodotti/cd_3402/AMD/AMD_Athlon_XP_3200+_Barton_512K_333M...

AMD Athlon XP 3200+ Barton 512K 333Mhz Tray (Socket A) Cod. AXDA3200KV4D

@ Thandor,

oke sorry that you didn't believe me but If I see something I do believe it, and if friends of mine tell me that it exsists then it does exsist, I'm not asking you not to believe me ofcourse Wink That is totally your opinion ofcourse.
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Reply #9 - 23.11.05 at 15:55:08  
rather odd that I have seen them on sale as true 3200+ 333MHZ FSB CPU's in France.... anyways if HP made them they still would be seen as AthlonXP 3200+ with 333Mhz FSB right Smiley

Well that doesn't matter and sorry for my inconviniency dear dear Lips Sealed

I wonder if they would work in the EPoX EP-8K3A
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Reply #10 - 29.11.05 at 02:38:22  
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rather odd that I have seen them on sale as true 3200+ 333MHZ FSB CPU's in France.... anyways if HP made them they still would be seen as AthlonXP 3200+ with 333Mhz FSB right Smiley

Well that doesn't matter and sorry for my inconviniency dear dear Lips Sealed

I wonder if they would work in the EPoX EP-8K3A



That would be the setup to have for the V6K.

The first person to secure one, Let us know if it works, preferably on the 8K3A(+) Grin
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Reply #11 - 09.12.05 at 00:13:46  
I have a straight 8k3a i also have a barton xp 2500 is it possible to run this cpu in this board? I have read on the epox site that the board supports up to 2700 XP but no reference to barton processors, very confusing support from epox, the only cpu support list i have found is for their newer boards.  Shocked
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Re: 3300 Sempron vs 3000 Barton
Reply #12 - 09.12.05 at 00:33:15  
With the latest BIOS the 8k3a supports up to 3000+ processors. Those have either a 166MHz FSB or a 200MHz FSB. So your Barton 2500+ should work on it.
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Reply #13 - 09.12.05 at 00:49:47  
and also the EPoX EP-8K3A/EP-8K3A+ is know as the best V56K Mainboard outthere for single CPU config, if you'd like Dual CPU Conig I'd say go for the Tyan Tiger MPX for Dual AMD Athlon MP 2800+ Max.
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Reply #14 - 09.12.05 at 03:54:35  
Can any one say why the 8k3a is so well adapted to the v5 6k? I picked mine up from ebay for $59 AU with an athlon xp 2100 cpu, i am not likely to find a v5 6k but would this board be ok for the v5 5.5?
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