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well after reading this Dell is trying to get the idea of 4-Way Sli back to buisness togeather with nvidia

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_28569.html

rather impressive just to see that idea comming back to life, only I think we shall never see something like out Voodoo5 6000's Quad Chip SLI on one PCB hehe 8)

haha they call it new
New NVIDIA Quad SLI Technology Enables Extreme High Definition Gaming

yeah right 3dfx had that idea more than 5 years ago ;)

Well I liked 3dfx's way of 4-Wa Sli alot better lol
http://www.slizone.com/object/slizone_quadsli.html
instead on 1 long wall they make 4 ling walls :-X

3dfx just has the better way of creating complicated designs I guess.

not really.nv SLI is a clumsy and inefective solution (crossfire seems to be a bit better,but I'm not impressed anyway),and this will be even worse when doing it 4-way (inefectiveness,composition engine lags,this was not noticable when doing normal sli but will be quite obvious when doing 4-way).but if 3dmark 2005 perfect score is your aim,its probably going to be the best thing around.its all about marketing-wooo,nvidia has the fastest solution around,just rob a bank so you will have enough money to buy it,get a licence for a special nvidia nuclear reactor to power it up and you are ready to break the all the marks in the world (*g-man grin*)..and once a game that uses dynamic branching comes out you will wonder why your neighbours x1300 performs better ;D

well the idea is funny to see a quad Chip SLI sollution again, but still the most effective SLI is still that of the Voodoo5 5000, 5500 & 6000.

They have with FSAA modes for 5000 and 5500's from FSAA x4 to FSAA x2 a boost of 100% in performance

a 6000 with FSAA x4 has the same speed as a 5500 or 5000 in FSAA x2 and a 6000 with FSAA x8 has the same speed as a 5000 and 5500 in FSAA x4.

3dfx Scan Line Interleave is even way more effective than ATi Cross Fire, I really never seen Cross Fire shine compared to 3dfx SLi [Scan Line Interleave] nor nVidia SLI [Scalable Link Interface].

I'd like to see a benchmark where the Low budget X1300 out performs a NV SLI 7800GTX then lol That rather hard to believe dude lol

BTW ATi has lot's of probllems like the availabillity of thier products, you need a CrossFire edition to use Crossfire other wise CrossFire will be pointless, well when ATi's Cross Fire edition is available on the market nVidia allready has thier next chip on sale.

inmost OpenGL games like Doom3 and Quake4 nVidia has the upperhand:

Doom3:

Quake4:

and D3D games like Black & White 2, Fear and Splinter Cell the NV set's win also:

Black & White2:

" It seems a bit odd to be inundated with red during BW2's ATI splash screen while performance is so abysmal. " lol they sponser a game that they can't even run propperly PWNed.

Fear:

Splinter Cell:

but the games BattleField2 and Day Of Defeat that is where ATi wins.

BattleField2:

Day Of Defeat:

Anyways these benches do tell the proof that nVidia's SLI is damn effective as it is. ATi's still got's lot's of patching up to do, let's hope that they also can deliver thier gear on time because the most clients are waiting to have thier products on sale ready and are not waitong for a nother pack of delays which is very clear to be ATi's problem.

ATI: The A is for Availability?
Let's just say that we haven't been happy with ATI's promises of availability as of late. Generally speaking, we would often be promised availability for a certain date, and generally speaking that date would come and go, with nothing to show for it (definitely not in the sense of actual availability).

Doesn't sound to prommissing :-/

here more info to the whole article:
http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.aspx?i=2649&p=1

Anyways ATi's Cross Fire still need's lot's of patching up but they are getting in the right direction :) Let's hope that the Radeon X1900 series will show us the true nature of ATi again but let's hope first that the availabillity get's patched up, because owning a top product but which has no availabillty is a pointless aim at the market.

what an awful solution! it look terrible...2x2 graphic cards...

"First-Ever Quad-SLI PC"...lol...the 6k never reached the market but i think it was the first one!

shame on you nvidia..." New NVIDIA Quad SLI Technology Enables Extreme High Definition Gaming"
i call it betraying consumers!

oh...we are the best...we have SLI and quad-SLI...hohoho...

just go away...cool...i'm angry right now ;)

..speaking of availability,scratch the gtx512 graph from the charts,the card is not real,those are just few overclocked&overvolted pieces that are impossible to get ::)

Indeed, IMHO a Sample-Launch directed primarily at Benchmark/Review Sites for prestige.
(although I must say I haven't found an ATI Mastercard for SLI anywhere on a shelf in a store yet, either ;) )

Anyway, I wonder how much Power such a monster must draw, must be insane (same with the heat production)

..not mentioning the short life expectancy.they are simply pushing the card too hard.

well the benches I gave were from a 2-way Sli 7800GTX 512MB, anyways it really depends on what you run ofcourse, I have Both ATi R420 and nVidia NV40 both 2 good solid chips no troubles here.

The Voodoo5 6000 just has a much better way of handling Multi GPU in therewise 3dfx SLI is 47% more effective than NV SLI could ever dream of, ATi's CrossFire still needs lots of work to be done on it's too primitive imho, things like drivers and so on, for I'm still on the AGP route that is actually fast enough really.

the 7800GTX 512 is available here in the Netherlands no prob for that hehe. but I just don't want to oder it , I ain't buy'n something when I don't need it, actually a 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A 3700 + Voodoo Volts Rev.A 0030 does me alot more hehe 3dfx still has Teh PWNage in the Quad Chip SLI era.

Anyways it's sounds a little Pro ATi hehe I can sense that deeply, as for Pro Nvidia people you would hear the oppisite.

I'm for both brands I don't see any probs with that, it's all between the ears really, the truth is that if you want the fastest that will definitly be Quad SLi GF 7800GTX 512MB's, I mean rich bugga's don't care about the power bill, so there are enough crazy one's out there to take that oppertunity.

Still I would like to see it in action hehe the idea is still very cool, llet's see what ATi has in hand for thier 4-way setup, and then it realy is gonna get nice 8) Come On ATi get a move on it I want to see more from your side next!

Also History does repeat it's self....

one more thing you should know about 4-way sli.the fastest medthod is AFR (the one that will give you up to 80% performance boost when using normal SLI).and doing AFR with 4 chips will result in some serious laaaaag.the FPS will be high,but the game will feel laggy.as simple as that.and using SFR will yield almost no performance gain over 2-way sli.sorry but nv 4-way SLI simply sucks.as I said,great if you want to produce a 3dmark world record,but thats it.

Well I mean 3dfx 4-Way SLI PWNs AFR though ;) Scan Line Interleave that is ;)

I can't say that the Ati Rage Fury MAXX is that great neither ATi's CrossFire. NV SLI still out performs CF in the most cases even in games the proof is out there, sorry to say but it is the truth hehe.

Oh well it does not bother me :)
I'm sure ATi will through the mud back hard next time like they did with thier Radeon 9700 Pro. 8)

I hate nVidiot >:(

At least 3Dfx was smart enough to do it on a single card!

you may hate NV but they still have the fastest thing on the market and it really rocks imho, ATi still got alot of work to do with their CrossFire thing.

let's hope that thier X1900XTX will do lots better, unless NV's G71 will PWN that hehe, you have to remember that nVidia Makes use of Multi GPU a year ahead of ATI so even by that ATI has lot's of catching up to do, because IF NV is thoughing with 4way sets allready they will still have the crown, unless ATi will do the same they will have to , to get a better performance.

16 Pipes isn't enough even with 48 vertexshaders, the bottlenek wills till be of the 16 pipes it has unless ATi will make that 32 pipes instead which would be a much smarter move.

All what we can do is wait and see, as I said before I'm on nobody's side.

wrote on 13.01.06 at 15:32:40:

..you have to remember that nVidia Makes use of Multi GPU a year ahead of ATI so even by that ATI has lot's of catching up to do..

oh really?

Rage Fury MAXX:

Radeon DDR MAXX

Radeon 8500 MAXX

CAE - Tropos (4x Radeon 8500)

Evans and Sutherland - simFUSION 6000d (2x Radeon 9700)

Evans and Sutherland - simFUSION 6000q (4x Radeon 9700)

Evans and Sutherland - simFUSION 6500d, 6500q (2x/4x Radeon 9800)
NO PICTURE :-(

Sapphire - Radeon 9800PRO MAXX

NV is the only graphic card maker that did NOT make multi GPU solution before their SLI,in fact,THEY were the ones that have been bashing multi GPU solutions around for quite a long time :P

wrote on 13.01.06 at 22:55:21:

oh really?
........

NV is the only graphic card maker that did NOT make multi GPU solution before their SLI,in fact,THEY were the ones that have been bashing multi GPU solutions around for quite a long time :P

well they still sucked in performance, the Rage Fury MAXX was a fraud, the idea was cool but a GeForce 256 PWNed it with ease.

the drivers were very bad, 3dfx still has the best SLI That I know of.

please don't sound so Anti NV taht does not PWN as I also liek ATi nor NV I don't mind whch one they both rock NV isn't everything neither is ATI let them first come up with a product that does iet better than NV, AFR may sound better but to this date it has been proven that NV still has thier First place, so ATI is still be'n PWNed by them. I face to facts not beliefs.

NV still holds the name with the fastest cards also in games i mean the truth is out there I have given proof, those ATi's you showed me never were released because of stabillity problems so not that succesfull heh lol, only the MAXX was released but wasn't such a success , too bad.

NV got thier products on teh market which has proven also great performance ATi's CrossFire is getting there but still needs lot's of patches, but I think that thier X1900XT product will do some serious dammage to NV norries there.

Anyways I am planned to be building a CF set with 2 R580's for sure, it's just saves me 400 euro's compared to the NV set. ATi still has the best FSAA dunno why really but they always had nice FSAA. AF on NV cards is in OpenGL somewhat better, oh well OpenGL always has been the API for NV things.

I will always be Pro 3dfx no matter what happens, let that be a reminder okay ;)

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