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whodoovoodoo2man
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Voodoo 2 watercooling blocks are finished!
30.09.03 at 12:44:39
 
Hi,

Finally got round to building the watercooling blocks for my pair of Voodoo 2 cards- 6 blocks in all.  Grin

Have bench tested them, they work very well there, will be interesting to see how they perform in practice on the cards.

Total cost for all six blocks- 80 pence! Tongue

Currently modifying my case to incorporate a Ford Transit heater matrix core (copper cored rad-£10 from the local scrap yard) plus copper maniolds and acrylic header tank for the other cooling blocks in the system, which so far include CPU, chipset and Geforce GPU cooler.

Still to make-

Harddrive coolers x 3
Memory coolers x 2
Mobo regulator cooler x 1
Centrifugal pump x 1 (possibly with Tesla bladeless turbine!)

Total projected cost for the total cooling system, about £15.  Grin

If someone can instuct me how to post pictures into the messages, then I will put some up later, assuming anyone is interested.  Shocked

Cheers

Andy
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Re: Voodoo 2 watercooling blocks are finished!
Reply #1 - 30.09.03 at 18:18:14
 
http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drexiaman/vwp.dir=/My+Photos&.dnm=voodoo1.jp...

(I took the liberty to correct the Image Link, as Guests cannot Edit their Posts Smiley )
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Hmm, Link http://uk.f1.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/drexiaman/vwp?.dir=/My+Photos&.dnm=voodoo1.j... seems dead (?)
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Okay, let's try this!
Reply #2 - 01.10.03 at 09:01:02
 
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Re: Voodoo 2 watercooling blocks are finished!
Reply #3 - 07.10.03 at 21:21:20
 
Nice looking kit!  Shocked

I used http://www.tennmax.com/voodoo2/stealth.htmTennMax Stealth coolers on my Creative Blaster SLI rig.  But with watercooling you should be able to go well over 110MHz.

Nice one. Smiley
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Reply #4 - 16.10.03 at 16:22:22
 
Oh lord! i have 2 SLIcards  Grin Grin  8) on a old 200Mhz.. Can u please help me? i wish to overclock overclock overclock!!!!!11  Shocked

But: i dont have the blocks  Undecided ..please help

Get me on #Kalas! @ Qnet, satansbrevberare@hotmail.com or call me (Cheesy)
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Reply #5 - 18.10.03 at 21:32:12
 
I made the blocks out of scrap copper left over from when I installed my central heating system.   Grin

The blocks are basically flat copper with small sections of 22mm copper tubing, all soft soldered together.

The inlet and outlet pipes are small bore brass tubing.

They will all be connected together with silicon tubing, each block will have it's own water supply from a copper manifold.

The blocks took about an evening to make (and they weren't difficult) and cost about 80 pence (for the brass tubing) to build.

I haven't tested them yet, as I've been busy converting my old Gateway G6 case for the watercooling rig.

I will post more details and pictures when I have the rig up and running.

I'm not actually looking to overclock my rig. The reason for watercooling was to make a quiet computer.

This machine will sit in my living room acting as a games machine/video recorder/music player etc.

Also I have found the Voodoo 2 cards have a strong tendency to overheat and crash my system when they are taxed i.e. when running Red Baron with the FCJ superpatch.

Cheers

Andy
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Reply #6 - 24.10.03 at 21:24:05
 
FCJ is good isn't it?  It's given RB3D a whole new lease of life here.  I've just built a new system with a P4c 2.4GHz processor and at last my Obsidian2 200SBi is feeling the pace!

Watercooling would probably help!  Wink

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Reply #7 - 27.10.03 at 13:29:34
 
Pretty case! Lian Li?

How about using heatpipes.

The Zalman range would be a good bet- the small ones that they recommend for Geforce MX cards.

Silent Heatpipe Video Card Heatsink ZM50-HP

http://www.quietpc.com/uk/vgamb.php#zm80chp

You'll need two!  Shocked

FCJ is very cool.

However, I'm still unconvinced by the flight characteristics of many of the planes- I guess only a complete rewrite would sort that.

Roll on Knights over Europe I say, that's shaping up to be a must have sim.

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Andy
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Reply #8 - 27.10.03 at 20:43:52
 
Yes, the case is a Lian Li PC-65.

Cooling the 200SBi would be an interesting challenge.  The card has chips on both sides.  The business side of the card is hidden in the picture above.  Here's an image showing the four chips in a row on the other side.  It's the lower of the two cards in the picture.

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The four heatsinks you can see came with the card and I am too fearful of damaging the thing to try and remove them to replace them with something more effective!  This is one of the reasons I went for the Lian Li case and, also, for the card blower you can glimpse under the card.  In my last case I had "card cooler" type fans fitted on an arm over the card.  But they run a lot cooler now (at 90MHz at least).

Agree with you about some of the flight characteristics in FCJ but I think Kess (the author) has stated that it's to do with the limitations of the game's implementation of the physics of flight.  Doesn't matter too much to me since I'm a very realistic WWI pilot - I'm such a novice I get shot down too soon to worry much about my plane's handling!  Grin

One interesting thing is that Red Baron 3D is one of the games I like to play on 3D shutter glasses.  This works amazingly well here using Metabyte's eyeScream Voodoo2 glide driver.  But I'm unsure why it does since I'm not really too sure that RB3D uses a real Z (depth) buffer.  The game is supposed to run at 1024x768 on a single Voodoo2.  This ought to mean that there's no Z buffer.  And no Z buffer ought to mean that 3D glasses can't work.  But they do to the extent that I get vertigo!!!  Wink

Knights Over Europe does look promising.  It's amazing that such an excellent PC gaming premise as WWI air combat has created so few real contenders.  It's about time there was a breakthrough game to replace RB3D.
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Reply #9 - 30.10.03 at 20:42:46
 
i'll need some help again.. i will come up with a pic of my dual V2 SLI soon  Tongue

well.. this is my computer  Grin

P2 266Mhz, new fresh 133Mhz RAMS Smiley ..4 of them
(4BANKS! Grin)
á 32Mb, 32Mb, 64Mb and 64Mb ..thats almost as much ram as CPUpower Cheesy. One Matrix something 8Mb PCI graphics accelerator, and two V2 SLI :] ..clocked 200Mhz, whit 2 fans to help it  8)

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..well. the help i needed was about clocking, how much do u think i can clock the thingys? Cheesy

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Reply #10 - 30.10.03 at 21:54:35
 
Hi Henrik,

Voodoo2s run very hot as standard.  In a well ventilated case you can sometimes get away with clocking them to 95MHz instead of the standard 90MHz.  But to go beyond this you need to take extra measures.

I've never seen Voodoo2s running beyond 105MHz reliably.  And frankly the gain in frames-per-second in games is so small as to make it hardly worthwhile overclocking anyway.  You might gain 5% or so.

Just experiment with small overclocks and run a timedemo in Quake or similar for an hour to see if the cards lock up.  Cases differ, fans differ, ambient temperatures differ and even the abilities of various Voodoo2s to cope with heat varies.  So you'll just have to experiment and see what your system can cope with.

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Re: Voodoo 2 watercooling blocks are finished!
Reply #11 - 05.12.03 at 17:09:13
 
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Okay, sussed it in the end.

Bits of copper and brass no problem, software.... urghhh!

Anyway, old thicko here has tested the blocks with a blow lamp, that couldn't even get them warm, so methinks they'll cool the boots of those Voodoo 2 cards.

Should have some more photo's of the finished rig next week, she's looking fine!!

Next project will be a watercooled Voodoo 5500 Glide box!! Shocked

Cheap processor and board recommendations  for the above would be much appreciated.

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Re: Voodoo 2 watercooling blocks are finished!
Reply #12 - 05.12.03 at 21:16:09
 
Holy moly Shocked

Now that's what I call a cool Voodoo Wink
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