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Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L?
02.10.13 at 15:17:49

So I bought really cheap one VillageTronic MacMagic on eBay (sorry for the bad quality pics):

It is completely black with no signs whatsoever... only thing readable (also in black) is v1.2
Is this actually VillageTronic MacMagic, as looking at this pics there are couple of differences:

I am missing the heatsinks, white lines, components are not marked (R, C, L)... It almost looks like painted (although it's not made by hand, but by machine) and there is a green?! PCB showing below... So really curious what actually is this and is it stock look...

While looking at info over the net, I accidentally found this article:
http://www.purepc.pl/karty_graficzne/historia_3dfx_voodoo_narodziny_i_upadek_leg...
Does anyone actually have a VREngine/VD-1 or VD-2?! Would really appreciate some high resolution pictures...

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Tim God Member Offline Posts: 1065 Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #1 - 02.10.13 at 20:54:45 No idea, but it looks fantastic!
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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #2 - 03.10.13 at 13:48:52 Probably an oversight or one of the last PCB's used? As for the VREngine, it's elusive. There are if (I'm not mistaking) 3 VREngine's; a Voodoo Graphics based version, a Voodoo 2 based version and a Voodoo 2 SLI version.
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Slaventus YaBB Newbies Offline Videocard collector Posts: 39 Russia Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #3 - 03.10.13 at 20:03:36 I have NEC TE4E card which seems to be RealVision VREngine/TE-1 That means GA400 chip was real
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Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L?
Reply #4 - 05.10.13 at 01:34:49

NitroX infinity wrote on 03.10.13 at 13:48:52:

Probably an oversight or one of the last PCB's used?

As for the VREngine, it's elusive. There are if (I'm not mistaking) 3 VREngine's; a Voodoo Graphics based version, a Voodoo 2 based version and a Voodoo 2 SLI version.

I didn't know about V2 SLI. But there is also a V3 version

http://extreme.pcgameshardware.de/attachments/547743d1337098540-rip-ehemalige-gr...

Or that one has another chip for T&L?

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ultima God Member Offline Always searching Posts: 876 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #5 - 05.10.13 at 08:51:08 Wasn't that the voodoo3 card which had an external DAC, it can be found on gary's site under prototypes
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EMPEROR Junior Member Offline 3dfx enthusiast Posts: 67 Germany Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #6 - 05.10.13 at 09:25:28 @ultima This is actually Voodoo 3 + Mitsubishi IMPAC-GE T&L Seems these VREngine VD1 and VD2 are pretty hard to find... Any other ideas about my card guys?!
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NitroX infinity YaBB Moderator Offline Posts: 1936 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #7 - 06.10.13 at 12:37:13 Yes, there is a V3 with geometry engine, but it was an internal 3dfx thing done by Hank. He still has the card last time I heard. It is the card on the image. The V3 with external RAMDAC is another card.
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ultima God Member Offline Always searching Posts: 876 The Netherlands Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #8 - 06.10.13 at 15:24:48 Do you know if the voodoo3 actually works and tge geometry chip as well? One could expect it' performance to be faster then a normal voodoo3, right?
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EMPEROR Junior Member Offline 3dfx enthusiast Posts: 67 Germany Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #9 - 06.10.13 at 16:33:49 Even if the hardware is working, I doubt somebody actually did the drivers for it...
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goriath God Member Offline Ruggedized Retro Gamer Posts: 599 Italy/Slovenija Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #10 - 06.10.13 at 20:41:32 ultima wrote on 06.10.13 at 15:24:48: Do you know if the voodoo3 actually works and tge geometry chip as well? One could expect it' performance to be faster then a normal voodoo3, right? Microcode for the g engine wasn't finished.
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Varus Full Member Offline recent 3dfx enthusiast Posts: 164 Poland Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #11 - 06.10.13 at 22:43:02 Hi, There is a chance that VREngine cards are not only fake. Them may exist. A long time a go i downloaded from realvision main site this brochure. http://3dfx.pl/files/VREngine.pdf sorry but only in Japanese language PS. I can't see any information about Voodoo1 from Realvision
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Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L?
Reply #12 - 07.10.13 at 00:35:04

I'm trying to imagine a V5 6000 with a T&L chip. That would be probably one of the most "good looking" card.

That what one of the things that I liked about 3dfx - they had not only great performance, but also great looking cards... V2 was awesome - 3 chips... a lot of memory modules, separate chips for ramdac, all only for a 3D addon card.

V3 was boring as hell - 2D+3D+ramdac in one sinlge chip...

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Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L?
Reply #13 - 07.10.13 at 02:14:15

Varus wrote on 06.10.13 at 22:43:02:

Hi,
There is a chance that VREngine cards are not only fake.

They are NOT fake indeed, and I don't know how you could ever think of:

NEC GA-330 + Voodoo Graphics
http://tweakers.net/ext/f/N1gwodZqEGFWaogHGEEPxsnQ/full.jpg

The VREngine/VD-1 posted previously is a Voodoo2 equipped with NEC GA-400 geometry engine.

VD-2 variant should be simply the same with a daughterboard that brings a second Voodoo2 chipset + memory modules, like Obsidian2 X-24/200SB cards.

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EMPEROR Junior Member Offline 3dfx enthusiast Posts: 67 Germany Gender:	Re: Strange VillageTronic MacMagic? And Voodoo 2 T&L? Reply #14 - 07.10.13 at 10:15:40 Btw talking about HW T&L, wasn't supposed V5 6000 to have one when announced, but then plans changed I guess? Also is there any Rampage with Sage chip out there?
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