Rialto

hah!
http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?USER_ID=www&cart_id=665893_71_254_66_65...

800USD for the BFG 8800GTX lol I wouldn't even pay 600 Dollars for such a card.

I prefer High Image Quallity and not Moderate Image Quallity, I prefer AMD-ATi

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Since I changed my OS to Linux I am not as convinced that AMD+ATI combo is still the best. I would gladly change my laptop with mobility radeon 9600/9700 for a shiny new Core 2 Duo + GF GO 7800...

As for the desktop comp; I am waiting for the ATI x800XT AIW AGP, it's more in my price range and has the best TV tuner around

Yes, indeed could be GF 7800 gs better choice, but it's not AIW And I am using Linux only on my laptop. My desktop system is a completely different story, with games and 3dfx-friendly dual boot win98/XP

BTW, ATI's linux drivers do really suck. One need but to try them out and to see for himself... or ask google The problem is that there is no DirectX in Linux and everything is emulated with OpenGL. And we all know that NVidia allways had better OpenGL drivers. ATI's leader in DirectX drivers, but OGL is still a problem.

Ah well, maybe this merging with AMD is going to force them to update OGL base I hope.

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Don't get me wrong; I have no problems with ATI-Linux. Everything works just fine, except for the games and programs that utilise 3D within OGL. It's allmost unimaginable to play anything in Linux with an ATI card. Here, read this quote from Cedega faq:

6) Which video card do you recommend using with Cedega?
Cedega will run with both ATI and nVidia video cards. We currently recommend the nVidia GeForce class video card due to its superior Linux driver support and the availability of Pixel Shaders on nVidia FX class cards and above. Some users may experience inconsistent performance and instability with the ATI Radeon 8500 or better cards. Please refer to the release notes for recommendations for game play.

okay but then again you can't compare an ATi Radeon 8500 with the latests X1900 series &  X1950 series cards, so kinda exagerated imho, and for OpenGL that's abit dead for the gamers market, it's overall Direct3D which is being used as the main API of choice for most games.

but yeah I have heard the rumors but , to believe them is something else, a friend of mine has Redhat 8 and he used an X1800XT 256MB and he has no problems what's so ever, he plays games like Quake3 and 4.

but anyways might depend on what Linux version you are working with I guess, since there are many types.

I rather stick to a microsoft OS as most gamers do lol. for your side get a sweet GeForce 8800 GTX ala G80 and rock'n roll I wouldn't mind hav'n one of those myself
http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=4812



Half Life 2: Lost Coast loves the GeForce 8800GTX. Here the GeForce 8800GTX is able to show significant performance gains over AMD’s ATI Radeon X1950 XTX—approximately 92%.

Quake 4 shows similar gains as Half Life 2: Lost Coast  too, an approximate 92% improvement.

heh that's kinda poor imho, the latest GFX cards are needed for the best performance for max settings that is, kinda would feel disabled that way, I mean come on unless the blokes of the linux OS can't make good support for later cards, sounds unprofessional to me.

Anyways the 6800's are okay, but a 7800.7900 shouldn't matter since they are 6800's with 20/24 pixel pipelines orsay modded 6800's technically have the same software and hardware specs to render OpenGL.

Anyways MS OS's will always have the upperhand for gaming anyways also much better support as that is a main fact that most people use it, it's basic, fast and has great driver support for both 3dfx, nVidia as ATI.AMD cards and many others.

anyways on to X1900 CrossFire Edition now R600 is next w00t  8)

@ Mansfield

That's an AGP Pro x4 50 watt slot, it's and AGP x4 slot for 50 wat AGP Pro cards like nVidia QuadroFX and AMD.ATi FireGL cards

But normal AGP x4/x8 cards work in it perfectly too