I'm building a "new" PC to stick my Voodoo 5 in, and I think I'm going to sell my V5 PCI and get a V5 AGP, if the motherboard I'm getting supports it.

So, two questions:

1) What are the criteria for a motherboard to support the V5 AGP?

2) I've heard that there are two or three different models of the V5 AGP with different RAM timings. Is this true? And how can I tell which is which?

kthxbye

;D

DO NOT ! There are minor performance differences between AGP and PCI Voodoo Banshee, Voodoo3/4/5 boards (same Make, same Model)

If you wanna change your RAM timings, visit this homepage
http://wave.prohosting.com/~pa3pyx/voodoo3.html

Visit homepage of tdfx bios editor
http://www.donapex.net/~fin/tdfx/russian/index.htm

Here you'll find BIOSes
http://www.donapex.net/~fin/russian/download/bioses.htm

Here you'll find tdfx BIOS editor
http://www.donapex.net/~fin/files/bios/tdfx_bios_editor.rar
or
http://download.overclockers.ru/video/bios/tdfxbioseditor1.61.rar

Best regards

Yep, there should be no reason to ditch the PCI Variant (which is quite universal in use).

With the AGP Variant, almost all P4 Motherboards, as well as the Athlon NForce/2, KT400, SiS746FX Boards etc. won't support the 3.3V AGP Card.

(as all manufacturers are heading towards 8x AGP, or 1.5V-only AGP capable Chipsets)

The PCI variant, you should be able to use for quite a long time to come (and performance difference is truly neglectable) :)

Well, the system I'm planning is:

Motherboard: ABit VP6
CPUs: Dual Pentium 3 866
Audio: Aureal Vortex 2 8830-based

I still have to get the sound board from eBay. I'm getting the motherboard and CPUs from a friend next week for $150.

It turns out the motherboard _does_ support 3.3V AGP, but if there really is next to no performance increase, I'll just stick with the PCI variant.

What do y'all think about this?

wrote on 17.07.03 at 23:01:20:

a very interesting link http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1292&p=1 the V5 5500 PCI is just as fast as the version Agp

So it's basically a PCI card with an AGP interface... interesting...


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------------------------- about your link, well i don't overclock my cards, (too precious) but i know that with a good cooling system + a good bios, a V5 can reach 185 mhz or + and in our forum, this link http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1054784332;start=8

That's where I read about the RAM timings. :P

Hmm... how would I tell the RAM speeds? Would it be printed on the RAM chips?

Hmm, what i thought was interesting on that one test between the 2 cards was that it was kept to q3 & unreal test, and in unreal the agp was just starting to pull away alittle. Ive tested my agp4500, pci5500 and agp5500 against each other and the agp5500 was clearly ahead in the 2001se test which puts alittle more strain on the cards, i got about a 15% gain with my agp over my pci, now it might have just been my cards, im not sure, Patience has the 2 cards i think, maybe she could run the same test to see what she gets :D(p.s. id love to see your 5000 test too if you ever get the spare time :-*)

Speaking of the AGP VS PCI with the 3dFX cards, they never really seemed to favor AGP, becuase the the Voodoo cards they came out with for  AGP weren't really compliant to the specs and only used a few funtions but never really made use of that bus.

So it was like having a PCI card with a few extras (but nothin' to write home about). Maybe they thought AGP wouldn't take off, as they did T&L.

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I did a lot or reading about the next generation hardware -- it certinaly would've kicked ass!

You'd think, since the ex - CEO of 3Dfx is working for a corporation that is very well off and is the president, you'd think he'd buy back the rights/property/assets,etc. of 3Dfx, hire back the old team and give it one last try.

Won't happen, but it goes to show how much I really miss them, sure there are some sweet video cards out there by ATI/Nvidia, but they don't have/won't ever have what 3Dfx had.  :'(

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I did a lot or reading about the next generation hardware -- it certinaly would've kicked ass! You'd think, since the ex - CEO of 3Dfx is working for a corporation that is very well off and is the president, you'd think he'd buy back the rights/property/assets,etc. of 3Dfx, hire back the old team and give it one last try. Won't happen, but it goes to show how much I really miss them, sure there are some sweet video cards out there by ATI/Nvidia, but they don't have/won't ever have what 3Dfx had.  :'( Your fontrune cookie reads "It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others"

The truth is that they made out of PCI video cards, the things many said it was impossible, and with that performance and speed.

Thinking at how this cards beat up strongly the ones of the competition with AGP or even T&L, this proved they were state of the art.

Nowdays, NVidia suddenly produces 4Mx440 SE AGP8x 128 Mb of Ram, when the card reaches it's real limits at 64 Ram, AGP4x (frankly never trully used 100%, not to say about efficiency). But numbers sell, publicity fools, and so was with the TNT2 in 32 bit (crawling performance), when the V3 was much faster even on PCI, even on 16 bit...

Unfortunately good things never turn back. I think that noone will ever prove the power of multiprocessing as 3dfx do in V5...

AGP hasn't ever lived up to what it was supposed to be, the nice thing I like about it is the fact that it is on its own bus (not sharing resources) and can directly access main memory.

But it hasn't ever used the bandwidth/speed of its own bus architechture correctly, even 8x still -- they thought maybe withthat we'll see better performance --- nope, not getting the hundres(s) or so of gigabytes/second as promised.

With the AGP cards that are loaded w/128-256MB, they don't even get to the point where they actually use all of that - maybe half, more if you are lucky. I mean what game is going to need *that* much framebuffer?

Maybe this is why 3Dfx had 2 chips and allocated each chip it own 32MB, that way --- it got used!

There is supposed to be a new PCI architechture coming out that will make it compete w/AGP. So far as I am concerned, you can make the same card PCI, and I would buy it.

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