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Nvidia Discussions & Troubleshooting
22.03.07 at 16:42:34
 
Let's make a thread to acknowledge the rest of the world that uses NV cards... So - questions, answers, discussions about Nvidia cards/mainboards/chipsets/misc here  8)

Let's start with this "misc", or better said "miss" from Cebit 2007 in front of the GF FX8800 panel:

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Reply #1 - 22.03.07 at 19:26:16
 
I have only 2 nVidia cards:

Riva TNT 2 16Mb
Riva TNT 2 M64 based Vanta 16Mb


I've never used them only tested the hardware which came with them.
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Reply #2 - 22.03.07 at 21:49:57
 
well I have only one NV card a Hercules 3D Prophet II ULTRA orsay the oppenent of the Voodoo 5 6000, I must say that the image quallity of that GF2U is horrible, as it's FSAA is, the 6000 really beats it in most glide apps with FSAA as well.

the T&L effect of that card was quite nice but when the GeForce3 Golden Sample from Gainward came, that was alot better and from that I bought a nice Leadtek GeForce 4 Ti4600 from that Hercules 3D Prophet 9700 Pro & Club3D 9700 Pro, after them a XFX GeForce 6800 GT AGP 256MB with Dual DVI and this was real last GeForce since my 9700 Pro's gave me a far better image quallity as from this I went for the most powerfull AGP card of that day the ASUS ATi Radeon X800 XT Platinum Edition AGP 256MB and from that only ATi cards just because of the better overall performance, image quallity as the tuned Omega drivers.

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Reply #3 - 22.03.07 at 22:28:18
 
Hmm...well, most of us may not like nV cards, but some people might wanna' discuss them here in the "This & That" area... Roll Eyes

Fine by me! Smiley

Oh, and I would 'play hard' with that booth babe anytime! Grin

WOOT! 8)
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Reply #4 - 22.03.07 at 22:46:07
 
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Hmm...well, most of us may not like nV cards, but some people might wanna' discuss them here in the "This & That" area... Roll Eyes

Fine by me! Smiley

Oh, and I would 'play hard' with that booth babe anytime! Grin

WOOT! 8)



I agree! I would advise her to remove that XFX shirt heh what's behind that is always more important than an XFX logo Roll Eyes But yeaps most 3dfx people use ATi cards as non 3dfx card  Smiley
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Reply #5 - 23.03.07 at 00:19:42
 
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well I have only one NV card a Hercules 3D Prophet II ULTRA orsay the oppenent of the Voodoo 5 6000, I must say that the image quallity of that GF2U is horrible,

That's quite correct. The image quality of the whole GF2 family is gruesome. But if you take a TNT2 pro/Ultra, for example, it had apsolutely wonderfull 3D&2D quality. It's unbelivable how that card was able to be fine-tuned... And then came first detonators and scr@wed everything, just to be able to get some speed increase in battle for the speed-crown.

But these days are long over... How about GF8800 image quality... and experience...  8)
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Reply #6 - 23.03.07 at 01:32:56
 
heh a 3dfx Voodoo 4 + 5 FSAA image quallity still shines above that of any new card if it's ATi or nvidia or something else, instead of of using Software based advanced shaders it does it fully hardware matic. Wink and really FSAA x8 on a Voodoo5 6000 is much nicer than FSAA x8 on my CrossFire setup as FSAAx8S of my dad's Leadtek GeForce 6800 AGP 128MB [Yes My dad plays games too Grin so does my mom LoooL she has a simple but nice HIS Radeon 9550 AGP 256MB 128Bit Tongue ]

FSAA x12 on the CF setup as Forced FSAA x10 on the 6800 has about the same quallity as FSAA x16 on a V6K,
I used Riva Tuner for that forced setting 8)

as we are all big 3dfx fans we know that the Napalm series had the FSAA all round compared to the new gen stuff Smiley 3dfx always shines on there Tongue

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Reply #7 - 23.03.07 at 03:00:13
 
3Dfx will PWNS all newer cards until H#CK freezes over! 8)
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Reply #8 - 23.03.07 at 09:18:33
 
I have a  GeForce Go 6150 and would like to speed it up a little to get to the speed of the 5700.
Do you know how to do this on a notebook.
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Reply #9 - 23.03.07 at 10:46:39
 
nVidia has also released GoForce -a cell phone graphics solution.

but ati has did it long time ago. Nokia(finnish company not japanese Smiley ) and ati are planning something cool to cell phone gaming http://mobilementalism.com/2006/05/04/nokia-and-ati-combine-to-bring-mobile-3d-g...

n-gage is a great product too, but I'm unsure was ati involved in that
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Reply #10 - 23.03.07 at 13:15:44
 
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I have a  GeForce Go 6150 and would like to speed it up a little to get to the speed of the 5700.
Do you know how to do this on a notebook.

You can try it with a Rivatuner:
http://www.guru3d.com/index.php?page=rivatuner

If Riva can't do it - it can't be done. Beware - overclocking video cards in laptops is more dangerous then overclocking in desktops. But don't be discouraged - just be extra carefull and pay attention to anomalities (if any) on the screen. To test for anomalities use windowed rthdribl (Real-Time High Dynamic Range Image-Based Lighting ):
http://www.daionet.gr.jp/~masa/archives/rthdribl_1_2.zip
good luck!  Smiley

Edit: here's some info about mobile video cards:
http://www.overclock.net/laptops-notebook-computers/124821-mobile-graphics-card-...
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Reply #11 - 23.03.07 at 14:46:25
 
Doing Dell warrenty repair work for two years, I can tell you to be carefull on OCing notebooks. Most companies try to fit what they can with the least amount cooling on those things. More cooling means more time with the engineers trying to figure out how to cool them. The best example I can put towards this, are the AMD 3200+ Barton chips. There just isn't any headroom to OC the thing. Same thing with laptops only the limitation might not be the chip itself but because of the hardware around it. Hope that made some sence.

Bottom line. Just watch out for anomalities. Have fun, good luck.
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Reply #12 - 23.03.07 at 15:35:10
 
Rivatuner doesn´t work with the Nvidia drivers for Windows Vista So I cannot use t but I can try ATITool.

Well is the maximum temp. of the GPU (In this case a IGP) in notebooks lower than in desktop systems  Or why is OCing on Notebooks so dangerous ?
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Reply #13 - 23.03.07 at 17:19:25
 
because the heat sinks are miminium specced. With limited space, there's limits to what they can put in system and how fast the heatsinks with disipate the heat. Dell's XPS systems, at least some of the older ones, have three fans in the thing because of the the 9800 card in there.
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Reply #14 - 23.03.07 at 20:22:59
 
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Well is the maximum temp. of the GPU (In this case a IGP) in notebooks lower than in desktop systems  Or why is OCing on Notebooks so dangerous ?
Imagine: If a chip may reach 70C and not higher and the cooling can get it only 69C when stressed then it's not advisable to overclock. Unless you install better cooling. In notebooks it's the same: The default cooling is quite minimal (compared to huge-sized heatsinks which can easily fit in a desktop) so the temperature will raise more easily.

Bottomline: Notebook cooling is minimal (but enough in most cases) so overclocking is not recommended.
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