Here is Boeing newest freighter!

Boeing B747-400 LCF [Large Cargo Freighter]
http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/thumbs/1553B744LCF%20a.jpg http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/thumbs/4220B744LCF%20b.jpg
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Some oddball hey :) here's some nice info I found of this oddball:
http://www.flug-revue.rotor.com/FRHeft/FRHeft06/FRH0602/FR0602e.htm

In short it reads that thios B744LCF is meant to be part of the B787 transport program, to transport B787 Hull Parts from A to B:

"The engineers from several countries have no easy task: they are required to adapt three used Boeing 747-400 passenger aircraft to transport the bulky and largely pre-assembled wings and fuselage segments of the 787, whose fuselage diameter measures 5.74m, from Japan, the south of the USA and Europe for final assembly in Everett."

Here an artist's impression of the aircraft when fully painted:
http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/images/3438B744LCF%20e.JPG

"The fuselage of the 747-400 LCF will even be 45.7cm wider than that of an A380. According to Boeing, the 747 LCF will actually be the biggest cargo aircraft in the world in terms of volume. Its length is to be extended by three metres, while its vertical tail unit will be raised by 1.5 metres. To enable the bulky cargo to be loaded without problems, a swing zone is being created at the rear end."

So it's even dwarfing The A380's cargo space , that's amazing! Anyways the aircraft is some strange thing to see fly'n around, I wonder what Airbus's reaction will be to this one :)

A 1/72nd scale model of this B744LCF would be very demanding to build though ;D

I'm sorry but I don't like it.

It looks pregnant  :-/

it looks cool, just like wierd look'n things, it made me laugh just looks funny :)

Looks better than that other one, Beluga iirc :P

yeah sure does :), I always have nbeen a B747 fan since it was invented :) Now to find this B744LCF for Flight Simulator 2004 & Flight Simulator X for later use 8)

Considering the A380 isn't an extended Cargo Plane in the first place, nothing spectacular.

If the A380 was to be modified in the same way, it would exceed the B747-400 in all aspects, therefor it's a lame comparison (Boeing couldn't come up with something better for PR I guess).

A true PR man would say :
It's barely bigger than a large Passenger Jet, but it gets the job done and was the cheapest solution ;)

uhm you were say'n that the A380 is no Cargo plane , well it is, here the A380F ;)
http://www.airbus.com/en/aircraftfamilies/a380/a380f/

http://www.silverstatenews.com/A380_Debut_01182005/FedEx.jpg

The cargo varriant of the A380 that is what the other article meant , though they didn't write it down :) Boeing' B744LCF still exceeds that A380F qua Cargo space, and yes Boeing's idea is cheaper and more to the point :)

But yes the A380F has much more ellegance ans style, dunno if it's maximum range is compared to the B744LCF though :)

wrote on 11.09.06 at 15:17:22:

uhm you were say'n that the A380 is no Cargo plane , well it is, here the A380F ;)

Gary meant the A380F is exactly the same size as the normal passenger version so if Airbus would extend the A380F in that way Boeing did it with the 747-400 LCF it would be much bigger. ;)
You compare an extended Version (longer, bigger diameter of the fuselage) of the 747-400 with a "normal" (measured by size) version of the A380F so they aren't really comparable.

yes it is :)

Boeing still has the largger freighter hull out there with the 744 LCF :)

Ofcourse you can compare it anyone could, and uhm where did you see Gary post 'bout that?

Didn't see him post'n that. ::)

The A380F is used to had the largest cyllendar based Hull, The B744LCF has that for now.
Modification or no modification it still has that record ;)

It's a far cheaper way of do'n just use your good ole B744 mainframe, mod it with a bigger Hull and Higher Tail section and also make it so you can swing open the hull for easy loading, that is also a way a new plane can be made, so you can see it as a modification but you can also see it as a new aircraft which it certainly is. 8)

Oops, did I write Gary? I meant Falconfly... :-[

I think we talk at cross-purposes...

Yes, it is a fact that the 744 LCF is the larger freighter, but it is only because Airbus didn't extended their A380.

In one way they are comparable (sheer size where the Boeing is bigger) but in another way they aren't (extended B744 vs. standard size A380 which is surely a bit better because it's a tested structure and not an enlarged version which hasn't been tested enough yet so there could be some awkward surprises).

yeah true there :) man Can't wait to find this nice B744 LCF in a 1:72nd scale model, that would be great to obtain only thing where to find such a thing :)

http://www.quickload.hostingvision.com/images/3438B744LCF%20e.JPG
would need heaps of white paint though ;D

Well, my point was :

Add a typical "Super Guppy" Frame onto the A380, and you'll get 50% more size than this new Boeing, that's it.

I still say it looks Pregnant ::)

it all depends on how you see a new aircarft not?

It's Boeing's newest B747 line for large freight loads, especially Aircraft Hulls, Wings and other large sections.

the B743 was seen as a new aircraft as well aka B747-300 so why not the B747-400LCF heh? ;)

It looks fantastic, a new B747 Freighter , still looks nice like the Airbus A300-600 Beluga does.

Boeing just made another smart move that is all :)

Uhm the discussion about 744LCF vs. A380F is senseless. Because Boeing will only use this giant for internal Boeing issues. It is not a jet for the worldwide market. Like the A300 Beluga.

In addition:
This jet will be painted in the Boeing "Dreamliner" coloursheme. First airplane arrived a couple of weeks ago in Seattle for some final checks and painting.

Arriving in Seattle:
http://www.jetphotos.net/viewphoto.php?id=5829295

btw: This plane is NOT new. They used an "old" 747-400 and modified it. Aircraft was waiting for a new customer or the scrapyard.

To Modify something saves alot of money by building something entirely new, and a modification of a B747 means a new type of B747 ;)

The B744 LCF orsay Boeing 747-412 Large Cargo Freighter, the name say it it's self, it is a freighter anyway you see it :)

wrote on 16.10.06 at 06:51:58:

To Modify something saves alot of money by building something entirely new, and a modification of a B747 means a new type of B747 ;) The B744 LCF orsay Boeing 747-412 Large Cargo Freighter, the name say it it's self, it is a freighter anyway you see it :)

Don't get your point here. Sure, it's a freighter...
I just metioned that the airplane is not entirely new. That's a fact. Simply a modification.
Can' t wait to see this beast flying in Boeing Dreamliner colours :)

Even it is a Modification, It's still a new look anyways as the Boeing 747-400 was a new plane compared to the Boeing 747-300, so is the Boeing 747-400 LCF compared to the Boeing 747-400F ;)

Indeed modded, but to Mod something and create something new doesn't mean it's an old design ;)

It's a new design for the 747-F series which

A. it is a new Freigther for the Boeing Company

B. It can house more than a Beluga or A380F

C. The Antonov AN-225 still hoilds the biggest Hull.

These are facts too.

wrote on 16.10.06 at 06:51:58:

To Modify something saves alot of money by building something entirely new, and a modification of a B747 means a new type of B747 ;)

Did you know that the Beluga is actually a modified Airbus A300-600 ::), which was released as a NEW plane, so why not the B744-LCF? Which Boeing does see ans a new plane, after thier idea was rather smart :)

Uhm...yeah Beluga is a modified A300-600. Nothing more. I don't care if it is a new plane or if it announced as it. Basic 747 is the 100 type. All other version are simple improvements. One more, one less. But still one type. Boeing speaks about "The 747 Series".

btw: Doesn't matter if the 744LCF can handle more freight as a A380F..it is not for the commercial market. The A380F is. What the An225 is doesn't matter too. This plane plays in a different league (you may think about fuel costs) and there is only one type available for special cargo flights.

I didn't ask if you cared ::)


"The fuselage of the 747-400 LCF will even be 45.7cm wider than that of an A380. According to Boeing, the 747 LCF will actually be the biggest cargo aircraft in the world in terms of volume."

that is all what I was aiming at, not stupid lectures like I don't care  

Then I think, why would you waste your time posting things in my topic if you don't care about the main subject ??? >:(

The B747 LCF is still Boeings newest Freighter, even if it's a modified one, like the 400 was compared to the 300, and the 300 compared to the 200 as the 200 compared to the original 100.

The 747 familly just got bigger with the new B747-LCF , which has the largest cargohold in the world in terms of volume 8)

Sorry...but stay in your dreamworld. Seems that you don't get my point at all.
This is it.

Uhu..Boeings new freighter. Very great. Boeing exklusive, but bigger than the A380F. Who cares about that? Fanboy crap.
The An225 is the biggest freighter around the world. One type available, flying for Antonov Design Bureau (recently this bird was in Berlin...you can't imagine the wonderful sound of this giant:) ) Wonderful plane. But this bird can't mess and also don't has to mess with Boeings 747 Freighters (There are lots of them, not just from the -400 series. Even 100er are still flying -think Evergreen has some.)

Like the newest addition of the Boeing 744 series. Boeing simply don't care if the freighter is bigger as the A380F. They NEED this airplane badly - to transport fuselage parts of the 787 from Asia (for example).

THAT was my point. Makes no sense to compare exclusive Airplanes with commercial Airplanes. And the discussion exactly about this point starts somewhere on page 1.

I didn't ask if you cared ::)

"The fuselage of the 747-400 LCF will even be 45.7cm wider than that of an A380. According to Boeing, the 747 LCF will actually be the biggest cargo aircraft in the world in terms of volume."


Dreamworld? what Dreamworld?
Where are you off to matey?

The 747 familly just got bigger with the new B747-LCF , which has the largest cargohold in the world in terms of volume :) and I know it's for B787 parts to ship from USA to Aisian territories, but that still does not mean it isn't a Cargo plane ::).

the dutch F16-As were also modded with new advanced cockpits, navigation hardware and other nice equipment they also looked different than they were as before, to Mod something is to bring a new from into something than it's original state.

To Modificate something is to renew the product so it's durancy will hold on for a few extra years, as the Netherlands did with the F-16-A which became the F16-N, it was seen as a new plane for the Royal Dutch AirForce and it was purely modified but gave the pilots a new look into the whole F16 program.

So even if a modification has been taken place it doesn't mean the end result is an old plane, when the Beluga came it was seen as anew aircraft too, so will it be for the LCF.