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Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting
Reply #300 - 30.06.07 at 10:01:00

soon ATI Radeon HD 2600 XTs with GDDR4 is avaible in Finland but my army service starts @9th July and I'll be 3 weeks there until I get my first vacation Sad

so won't get it soon as I want. The Price is set here just below 140€ for HD2600XT(GDDR4) which is less than 199$. It's good thing that nVidia's the top most mainstream card GeForce 8600GTS(GDDR3) priced a bit over 200€. one of the leading HW site of Finland Muropaketti is soon(next week) making a huge review about HD2400 and HD2600 series and those are compared with gf8500 and gf8600
have you noticed how nVidia tries make its low budget card to be better than hd2400. well usually nvidia's lowbudget card is named like gfx300 no it is gf8500. everyone knows that 4<5 so the card sounds better to non-expert computer customer. this is just my opinion

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Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting
Reply #301 - 05.07.07 at 01:54:51

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soon ATI Radeon HD 2600 XTs with GDDR4 is avaible in Finland but my army service starts @9th July and I'll be 3 weeks there until I get my first vacation Sad

so won't get it soon as I want. The Price is set here just below 140€ for HD2600XT(GDDR4) which is less than 199$. It's good thing that nVidia's the top most mainstream card GeForce 8600GTS(GDDR3) priced a bit over 200€. one of the leading HW site of Finland Muropaketti is soon(next week) making a huge review about HD2400 and HD2600 series and those are compared with gf8500 and gf8600
have you noticed how nVidia tries make its low budget card to be better than hd2400. well usually nvidia's lowbudget card is named like gfx300 no it is gf8500. everyone knows that 4<5 so the card sounds better to non-expert computer customer. this is just my opinion

I agree all the way, it's just nVidia's silly way of marketing which actually cheats on their cleints, not that faithfull if you'd ask me.

ATi's way of doing is @ least relistic as the drivers for the HD 2900XT have improved alot since it's release, take a look at this review which has been tested with the most recent Catalyst drivers aka Cat 7.6

as it beats the 8800 GTS 640 completely
http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1744&Itemid=1

here some nice shots on where our ATi cards are being made and how they are being made as how the PCB's are being stacked

This might give us an idea how it was @ 3dfx when out Voodoo5 5500's were produced as other type of 3dfx cards 8)

here some more shots

http://www.pcpop.com/doc/App/206178/000524744.html

scroll down a bit and you'll see alot more w00t!

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ps47 God Member Offline Keeper of the 3Dfx Helppage Posts: 988 Slovakia,central Europe Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #302 - 19.07.07 at 20:37:52 back to topic.tried the x1950pro agp in an asrock939dual mobo,and I'm a bit dissapointed,I must have agp set to 4x with fastwrites off if I want stable 3d function.I will check the card in 2 more agp8x mobos,and if the problem prevails its off to RMA..drat. no luck with hw last few days.
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Max_R Full Member Offline Posts: 237 Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #303 - 19.07.07 at 21:20:34 Hi Ps47, I also have had problems with this card and we aren't alone. http://www.sapphiretech.com/en/forums/showthread.php?t=12847 After RMA the vga works better. The difference between the two cards is that the new one uses a x1950 GT cooler (shorter) and another cooler (passive) on the voltage regulators
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ps47 God Member Offline Keeper of the 3Dfx Helppage Posts: 988 Slovakia,central Europe Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #304 - 20.07.07 at 00:14:42 mine is from MSI.
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Max_R Full Member Offline Posts: 237 Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #305 - 20.07.07 at 00:27:22 Don't look at the brand... Sadly they are all the same (as you can read in some thread)...
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Mansfield Full Member Offline Voodoo 2 SLI - the cheapest and the best SLI Posts: 212 Finland Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #306 - 04.08.07 at 18:03:27 is there any difference between HD2600Xt gddr4 and gddr3 versions. I haven't found such test yet. so should I pay 20€ more for marginal performance boost?
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ps47 God Member Offline Keeper of the 3Dfx Helppage Posts: 988 Slovakia,central Europe Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #307 - 02.01.08 at 12:39:08 seems like powercolor is not ready to say goodbye to agp slot just yet: http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?shownews=17418&catid=2
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OutOfRange Senior Member Offline Posts: 348 Switzerland Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #308 - 02.01.08 at 12:43:34 problem is: since the 7.8 catalyst (over 4 months ago) none of the newer drivers from ati is able to drive direct3d on an agp card. so i think if powercolor don't make their own driver you run into a series of driver trouble
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Reply #309 - 02.01.08 at 13:05:30

Can't be true. Where's this info from?
We still sell AGP cards, NV + ATI and always install the latest reference drivers. And before we give the repaired / upgraded PC away again, it runs several 3D Mark loops. I didn't experience any troubles with newer ATI drivers so far.

Perhaps this is just a problem of some series of chips?
We sell mostly low-range cards for AGP like 9250, X800GTO etc..

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OutOfRange Senior Member Offline Posts: 348 Switzerland Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #310 - 02.01.08 at 13:26:26 If you take a look at the ATI Game Forum, there are lots of mostly 2x00 AGP members who are really pissed off about the bad agp driver support from ati.
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Tweakstone Full Member Offline Banshee - Addict Posts: 217 Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #311 - 02.01.08 at 13:43:23 Okay, this can be true. I can't remember that we would have sold one of these newer cards. This is real bad from ATI to make it possible to create AGP cards based on their new Chips on the one hand and then not to care about the drivers on the other hand. Bummers
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Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting
Reply #312 - 02.01.08 at 15:23:49

confirming,bridged cards can be problematic,especially the x2000 series..the x1950 series is not flawless as well,I'm running an agp x1950pro and I cant get fastwrites/agp writes working no matter what (not that it really matters,I can play bioshock on high without much trouble.and I have a feeling this problem may actually be related to the uli chipset on my combo-z motherboard).and I dont get any picture at all when playing video clips using windows overlay rendering (no big deal,just a matter of setting both mpc and vlc players to use dx9 rendering instead).

there is no such thing as perfect sw/hw..

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Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting
Reply #313 - 02.01.08 at 23:34:52

hmm using a X1950 Pro AGP card as well. The Cat drivers work ok, haven't used the 7.12 ones yet but on my X850 Pro AGP card, I have to use Omega's drivers in order to play any games on it. Keeps coming up with "No Direct 3D device installed" error. If you go over to driverheaven.net there's a dedicated post to this very issue.

http://www.driverheaven.net/ati-graphic-cards/149618-ati-agp-video-card-problems...

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ps47 God Member Offline Keeper of the 3Dfx Helppage Posts: 988 Slovakia,central Europe Gender:	Re: ATi Discussions & ATi Troubleshooting Reply #314 - 03.01.08 at 01:19:34 installed 7.12 on my x1950pro,no change.still no fastwrites/agp writes,overlay rendering still jumpy.games run fine..
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