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Message started by paulpsomiadis on 23.11.03 at 17:33:30

Title: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by paulpsomiadis on 23.11.03 at 17:33:30
You all KNOW what this is, you all KNOW what it costs... ::)

Nuff said! ;D

Go here... :P

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2766979177

Just such a damn shame that none of us will realistically be able to afford one of these! :'(

Lottery winners applicable only! ::)

KEWL! 8)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Micha on 24.11.03 at 15:00:55
great 'shelf of fame'  ;D

--adding--
by the way, is it true only 50 prototypes were finished by 3dfx? thought it was about 200..  ???

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by paulpsomiadis on 11.12.03 at 00:34:28
Just in case people are interested, the V5 6000 finished at: - ::)

in USD

$1,225.00 :o

or in GBP

£701.48 :o

or in EURO

E1,000.90 :o

GOOD GRIEF! :o :o :o

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by janskjaer on 14.01.04 at 14:17:56
New one, now on sale through http://www.ebay.com  ;)

Check it out, this guy is selling even the ORIGINAL COMPANY FLAG with the item, which once featured outside the 3dfx HQ in the US:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2779284468&category=40157

Get your wallets out, $$$!  ;D


Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by janskjaer on 14.02.04 at 17:53:49
Looks like this one is back up again, for sale!  :D

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2787512238&category=40157

Check out the feedback of the seller though! Didn't get a good response from the previous buyer (to be)!

Sounds like there could be something wrong with this auction (and seller  :-/) alledgedly.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by DenisF on 14.02.04 at 18:56:21
I don't *really* think an opinion of someone with 0 feedback is credible at all on ebay ..  ::)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by janskjaer on 16.02.04 at 13:47:56
Me neither... but sellers that are selling a Voodoo5 6000, may have simply joined on eBay, solely to the sell the card, because they may be aware that a lot of buyers may use eBay to find one.  You must give v5 6k sellers with 0 feedback, the benefit of the doubt.

Best thing to check is to see the date they joined.  If it's the same day as when the v5 6k went on sale, chances are they are here to sell the card and that's it.

However, sellers who have tried to sell the card in the past, things have not gone according to plan with the buyer and he labels the seller a "criminal", you are asking for trouble.  And people would be mad to put in a bid, the second (or several more) time he tries to sell it.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by DenisF on 16.02.04 at 17:25:51
True..
Id'e just wait for eBay to remove that comment before selling it again..

but maybe he really needs that money bad :/

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by janskjaer on 16.02.04 at 19:23:34
It may sound dishonest to the V5 6k (please forgive me  :-[) but last time, it went for an awful lot of money, and it's only a display model!  yes, okay, it comes with a plaque, but anyone can build one of those with a bit of time on the old CAD CAM machine!  ;)

This is probably just my opinion, but if I was going to spend that amount of money on a V5 6k, I'd wait for a woking model! Heck, you can always put it on display when you've finshed using it, or got bored of it (but I can never see the latter option ever happening!  ;D)

I just urge buyers to be cautious on this purchase! Get as much info about the item (and the seller for that matter) as you can!

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 30.04.04 at 06:44:35
And here it is again:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4128018673

Funny thing, he posted on x3dfx about it:

http://p197.ezboard.com/fx3dfxfrm1.showMessage?topicID=17122.topic

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by gdonovan on 30.04.04 at 13:53:59

wrote on 30.04.04 at 08:02:35:
With http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=general;action=display;num=1081781192

this is the fourth time now !


The guy is a scammer- He has buddies running the bid up hoping a real buyer makes the purchase at the end of the auction.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by janskjaer on 30.04.04 at 18:38:57
This is absolutely true! It would be almost impossible for this seller to have that many of these cards.

I was doing a bit of "ebay surfing" last night and managed to find out he's selling it yet again!

Word of advice: Let this one go!

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by paulpsomiadis on 01.05.04 at 05:13:17
By the time this MORON was selling the V5:6K for the third time it was BLATANTLY obvious he's running a SCAM! >:(

Plus his non-existant feedback rating! ::)

Can we hit him with mallets now? ;D :D ;)

Heheheh! ;D 8)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by beta on 01.05.04 at 19:50:57
Yea, a scammer, preying on either the very stupid or those with too much money and nothing better to spend it on.  There was something similar a while back, remember?  That huge collection of cards, may have been genuine but looked dodgy nonethless.

I'm bemused as to why anyone would want one of those overpriced things anyway, they are rarely working, especially the Intel bridge chip variants, and are more of a testamant to 3dfx's downfall, than it's success (Voodoo2 fills those shoes).

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by FalconFly on 01.05.04 at 20:42:33

wrote on 01.05.04 at 19:50:57:
There was something similar a while back, remember?  That huge collection of cards, may have been genuine but looked dodgy nonethless.


Well *cough* , as it turned out, those were genuine ;)
Expensive maybe, but genuine...

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by DenisF on 01.05.04 at 20:45:35

wrote on 01.05.04 at 19:31:02:
He owned 3 Voodoo 5 6000 ?   ???  


So? doesn't hank have like 10 of them? ;)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 03.05.04 at 22:33:35

wrote on 01.05.04 at 20:45:35:
So? doesn't hank have like 10 of them? ;)


Much more ;)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by amp on 03.05.04 at 23:18:54
Yes, but hank also worked for 3dfx, which many ppl didn't do...

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by 3Dfx-tweaker on 06.05.04 at 22:38:24
I guess Hank would have like ALL the cards  at home.
Rare voodoo4 and 3 boards, but I wonder if Hank also worked on the Voodoo 1 or maybe 2??
But like sad before the Voodoo2 is a symbol of dominance of 3Dfx. But Another card of dominance is the Quantum3D 100sb 4440 (now that was a BEAST at its time ). But Stil the fact remains that the V5 6k symbolises all the hopes of 3Dfx fans for 3Dfx to take back its trone, were it one time had been sitting.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by beta on 07.05.04 at 02:35:52
V5-6k was probably the biggest joke 3dfx came up with.  And before the 3dfx zealots get their knives out... this card, with it's huge external PSU and ridiculous cost, was never going to be affordable by the average user and definately wasn't going to save 3dfx from their ulitmate demise or compete with products from Nvidia, this is why 3dfx abandoned it's release.

Voodoo5 was a short term "fix", the single VSA-100, Voodoo4 compares badly with Voodoo3.  It just isn't enough of an improvement, performance wise, over the older chip.

Using the combined fill rate of two or more chips on one board, the Voodoo5, is nothing more than a wasteful cheap hack.  That the end user payed dearly for.  This was acceptable to an extent, and I can't deny my own preference for the Voodoo5 over any other graphics card of it's time and many of those produced later.  Voodoo5 6k was taking things to the insane level though.  3dfx should never have even thought about that one.  It made them look ridiculous and gave "ammunition" to their competitors.

A testament to 3dfx's corporate complacency. ;)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by gdonovan on 07.05.04 at 03:39:55
> V5-6k was probably the biggest joke 3dfx came up with.

You facts please? I was under the impression multiple processors is the way to go when it comes to heavy workloads and the VSA setup very neatly got around the problem of stupidly expensive ram for the memory bottleneck.

> this card, with it's huge external PSU and ridiculous cost, was never going to be affordable by the average user

Key phrase- "average user"

I could make the same statement about the Nvidia 6800, $500 *and* I'm required to have a 480 watt power supply? For this I get a glorified Geforce for $500 with a dustbuster cooling system?

Funny ATI's X800 PE kicks it in the jimmies and it doesn't require a 480 watt power supply.

>  and definately wasn't going to save 3dfx from their ulitmate demise or compete with products from Nvidia, this is why 3dfx abandoned it's release.

1) Wasn't meant to save 3dfx, it was a flagship product which always has limited sales. *if* it was released on time benchmarks show it would have gone toe to toe with a *GF3* a product that was a year from being released.

2) VSA was an interm product till Rampage was released which by all rights was a killer product that 3dfx should have released sooner but was sidetracked by feature creep and people being pulled away onto other chipsets like Banshee.

> Voodoo5 was a short term "fix", the single VSA-100, Voodoo4 compares badly with Voodoo3.  It just isn't enough of an improvement, performance wise, over the older chip.

That's correct, rumor has it that it should have gone through one more design revision but 3dfx was behind the 8 ball.

> Using the combined fill rate of two or more chips on one board, the Voodoo5, is nothing more than a wasteful cheap hack.

Wasteful? You need to read up on how 4 sample AA is done, multi-gpu is the best way to render a sceen with AA and 3dfx had the best way of doing it.

See cheap memory note above.

Multi gpu = cheaper ram and more bandwith.

>  Voodoo5 6k was taking things to the insane level though.

Don't buy it then, no one was or is twisting your arm.

3dfx had great people working for them, but they had bad business practices due to the fact they were founded by people who design things, not run business!

On the other hand Nvida is full with nasty little payoffs, driver "optimsations" and lawsuit bullsh*t.

Enough to make a man puke.

.Just make a great product and let the market decide

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by amp on 07.05.04 at 07:00:29
I'm quite frankly with beta on this one. That massive, 4 GPU rig, which was way too buggy for it's own good,  still could barely keep up with the competition (nvidia). It was 3dfx's last gasp of breath, like jumping off the top of a burning building. Either way you're dead, but the second you're more memorable  ;) Owning a Voodoo 5 6000 is like keeping ashes in an urn on the mantlepiece.

[/sadistic]


wrote on 07.05.04 at 03:39:55:
> V5-6k was probably the biggest joke 3dfx came up with.

You facts please? I was under the impression multiple processors is the way to go when it comes to heavy workloads and the VSA setup very neatly got around the problem of stupidly expensive ram for the memory bottleneck.


In an idea situation, yes. If you can come up with a powerful GPU, then double it, it's great in a workstation/CAD machine. On the other hand, 3dfx was relying on the multiple GPUs even for their "consumer" product, the 5500.  And how many "consumer" products to you find today with dual GPUs? One, the Volari, which is still at this point a joke when it comes to the competition.


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> this card, with it's huge external PSU and ridiculous cost, was never going to be affordable by the average user

Key phrase- "average user"

I could make the same statement about the Nvidia 6800, $500 *and* I'm required to have a 480 watt power supply? For this I get a glorified Geforce for $500 with a dustbuster cooling system?

Funny ATI's X800 PE kicks it in the jimmies and it doesn't require a 480 watt power supply.


Yeah, I think you win on that one, but still, nvidia's products of the day were by far smaller, less power-hungry, and I imagine cheaper.


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>  and definately wasn't going to save 3dfx from their ulitmate demise or compete with products from Nvidia, this is why 3dfx abandoned it's release.

1) Wasn't meant to save 3dfx, it was a flagship product which always has limited sales. *if* it was released on time benchmarks show it would have gone toe to toe with a *GF3* a product that was a year from being released.


I would like to see those benches, because from what I can remember, the V5 6k was comparable to the GF3 in like one test, and fell below GF2 levels in others. It was closer to the GF2 Ultra level, if memory serves.


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2) VSA was an interm product till Rampage was released which by all rights was a killer product that 3dfx should have released sooner but was sidetracked by feature creep and people being pulled away onto other chipsets like Banshee.


3dfx invested too little time in the Rampage, they kept sticking their technology for the Rampage into other chips, so the Rampage was a doomed project in that matter. The V5 6k would have, if released, hopefully have provided funding necessary to continue with Rampage development. So, in that sense, it would have saved 3dfx, if it had been successful. However, I think 3dfx's corporate leaders looked at the facts, looked at the books, looked at the market, looked at the money (referring to that offered by nvidia), and took the easy way out.


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> Voodoo5 was a short term "fix", the single VSA-100, Voodoo4 compares badly with Voodoo3.  It just isn't enough of an improvement, performance wise, over the older chip.

That's correct, rumor has it that it should have gone through one more design revision but 3dfx was behind the 8 ball.



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> Using the combined fill rate of two or more chips on one board, the Voodoo5, is nothing more than a wasteful cheap hack.

Wasteful? You need to read up on how 4 sample AA is done, multi-gpu is the best way to render a sceen with AA and 3dfx had the best way of doing it.

See cheap memory note above.

Multi gpu = cheaper ram and more bandwith.


Ah, so now their buying the ram cheaper but still demanding outrageous prices for it. The AA is a good point, but I imagine it could also be performed in a similar fashion with a single GPU.


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>  Voodoo5 6k was taking things to the insane level though.

Don't buy it then, no one was or is twisting your arm.


I don't honestly understand why you people waste your time and money on these stupid cards. 3dfx is gone, why on earth do you need to pay $1000 for a directx 7 video card, with no driver support? A voodoo 5 5500 will run any Glide game, except for a few requiring a Voodoo 2, and you should be able to find something for less than $1000 to run dx7 games.


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3dfx had great people working for them, but they had bad business practices due to the fact they were founded by people who design things, not run business!

On the other hand Nvida is full with nasty little payoffs, driver "optimsations" and lawsuit bullsh*t.

Enough to make a man puke.

.Just make a great product and let the market decide


Here we go again, blaming everything on nvidia. That's enough to make anyone puke. Don't you think 3dfx had their own driver optimizations? Do the letters ICD ring a bell?

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by gdonovan on 07.05.04 at 15:36:34

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In an idea situation, yes. If you can come up with a powerful GPU, then double it, it's great in a workstation/CAD machine. On the other hand, 3dfx was relying on the multiple GPUs even for their "consumer" product, the 5500.  And how many "consumer" products to you find today with dual GPUs? One, the Volari, which is still at this point a joke when it comes to the competition.


And ram prices today are much different then they were back then- If you check reviews *back then* you will find that the biggest problem almost everyone was working on was the memory bottleneck. Nvidias solution was expensive ram, 3dfx's was multi gpu working on the same problem splitting the bandwith.

Both ways have their drawbacks, Nvidas was cost of ram, 3dfx's was having to use 2 chips and PCB cost.


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Yeah, I think you win on that one, but still, nvidia's products of the day were by far smaller, less power-hungry, and I imagine cheaper.


The Geforce 2 Ultra was a $435-500 product, MUCH MORE expensive then a V-5500 ($300) Non-Ultra cards were in the $300 range.

A quick Google search will confirm this.

In all fairness (I am reasonable)  the GF2 was about equal to the V-5500 and was priced comparable to it.


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I would like to see those benches, because from what I can remember, the V5 6k was comparable to the GF3 in like one test, and fell below GF2 levels in others. It was closer to the GF2 Ultra level, if memory serves.


In what 3DMark 2000? Well known fact Nvidia payed them off. I'll stick to real games as a benchmark not some bs "test program" that to this day is still being manipulated by Nvidia cash.

Quote- "Looking at the performance data presented here it obvious that 3DMark 2000 and 2001 did not offer representative data concerning 3dfx performance in D3D mode.  3DMark 2001 is particularly bad in this respect."

In Quake III the V-6000 went toe to toe with a GF-3, Nvidas favorite benchmark that their drivers are tuned for! With a card not even released yet ;-)

In Serious Sam the V-6000 greases even the GF-3.

*IF* the V-6000 was launched when it was suppose to (late 99) it would have been the leading performance card for a year. And that's based on benchmarks done with an unreleased card with beta drivers vs a GF3 with polished drivers.  


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3dfx invested too little time in the Rampage, they kept sticking their technology for the Rampage into other chips, so the Rampage was a doomed project in that matter.


Rampage was up and running Quake 3 two weeks before 3dfx threw in the towel. Yes it was delayed by people being pulled off for other projects and feature creep, I have already mentioned this.


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The V5 6k would have, if released, hopefully have provided funding necessary to continue with Rampage development.


Rampage was *finished* no more funding was really needed, it was too late though. 3dfx owed people money and ran out of time. I suspect there are other factors as well, they sure did sell off to Nvidia in a big flaming hurry.


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Ah, so now their buying the ram cheaper but still demanding outrageous prices for it.


Check your facts- V5500 was cheaper then GF2 Ultra by a huge margin and equal to a GF2 GTS.


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The AA is a good point, but I imagine it could also be performed in a similar fashion with a single GPU.


So... Why has Nvidia's method been so lacking? I was laughing the other day since the 6800 just started using the method 3dfx used in the VSA-100 card, rotated grid anti-aliasing.


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I don't honestly understand why you people waste your time and money on these stupid cards.


Why do I also own a gas guzzling 1970 Plymouth GTX? Why do people collect stamps or bugs, etc, etc.



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Here we go again, blaming everything on nvidia.


You have a complex? I didn't blame them for anything. Most of 3dfx's problems can be laid at their own feet which I pointed out. Products late to market due to feature creep, bad managment, mistake of buying STB, etc. They were working to improve these issues by getting rid of the bad people, selling off STB, going back to their previous business model but it was too late.

On the other hand if you wish mention Nvidia, 3dfx was taking them to the cleaners in court because Nvidia was guilty of infringing on their patent. Their suit toward the end was nothing more then a delaying tactic to get 3dfx to spend more cash on lawyers instead of bills. Worked too didn't it?


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Don't you think 3dfx had their own driver optimizations? Do the letters ICD ring a bell?


And what is wrong with a mini driver? (which was just for the Quake based games btw)  I have the choice of installing it or not installing it. That's hardly a sin compared to Nvidia drivers that shut certain features off in the name of benchmark numbers even though they are checked "on" in the control panel.

I call that cheating, it's deception pure and simple.



Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 07.05.04 at 15:56:34

wrote on 07.05.04 at 07:00:29:
I'm quite frankly with beta on this one. That massive, 4 GPU rig, which was way too buggy for it's own good,  still could barely keep up with the competition (nvidia). It was 3dfx's last gasp of breath, like jumping off the top of a burning building. Either way you're dead, but the second you're more memorable  ;) Owning a Voodoo 5 6000 is like keeping ashes in an urn on the mantlepiece.

[/sadistic]


Of course you're going to agree with beta, you're his butt buddy over at voodoofiles, or should I say nazifiles  ::)
Anyway, I've refused to ready any uber long posts after gdonovan's first uber long post.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by beta on 07.05.04 at 16:23:17

wrote on 07.05.04 at 15:56:34:
Of course you're going to agree with beta, you're his butt buddy over at voodoofiles, or should I say nazifiles  ::)
Anyway, I've refused to ready any uber long posts after gdonovan's first uber long post.


LOL, he agrees with me because I'm speaking the truth and the opinions of 99% of PC users that have managed to move on and who believe that those who spend $1000's  on huge dated cards need to seek psychologial help. ;)

And your comments come as no surprise little boy.  Instead of brown nosing Hank and the others at 3dfx zone, and repeating their words parrot fashion wherever you go, come over to VF and I may give you a little job moderating my deleted posts forum. Or are you just the d!ckless, whiny little post basher that most people think you are? ;):P

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by gdonovan on 07.05.04 at 16:39:05

wrote on 07.05.04 at 16:23:17:
LOL, he agrees with me because I'm speaking the truth and the opinions of 99% of PC users that have managed to move on and who believe that those who spend $1000's  on huge dated cards need to seek psychologial help. ;)


1) What the other 99% do is no concern to me, I very much do my own thing.

AOL claims 22 million users, should I sign up? Using "force of numbers" in an argument is always a poor choice.

2) As for moving on my next purchase will be an ATI X800, at least their drivers don't suck nor are the busy paying people under the table.

3) I'd never pay $1000 for a V-6000, $300 maybe.

Troll.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 07.05.04 at 16:47:35
Noone wants to join your little forum. Noone really likes it either. You people are anal about everything on that forum. You've got like 2 members there, and you hand over ranks as if you had 35497484874 (tm).
"so and so is stepping down" and whatnot; ANAL!.
And you talk about people moving on about 3dfx, yet don't you like own voodoofiles or something?  ::)

What administration!?!

:: shakes head ::

I mean god who do you people think you are at voodoofiles? Gods?

Random quote: "The administration has decided that it is in everyone's best interest not to upload the old posts from the previous iteration of VoodooFiles. "

::)

And that 3dfx help page. tisk tisk tisk


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This page was written by fedaykin, beta, psyno, Vuikie, Sy, ThruYerStErNuM, Chaosratt, Garth, and ps47 of the VoodooFiles Forums and coded by psyno and fedaykin.


WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by beta on 07.05.04 at 17:16:30

wrote on 07.05.04 at 16:47:35:
Noone wants to join your little forum. Noone really likes it either. You people are anal about everything on that forum. You've got like 2 members there, and you hand over ranks as if you had 35497484874 (tm).
"so and so is stepping down" and whatnot; ANAL!.
And you talk about people moving on about 3dfx, yet don't you like own voodoofiles or something?  ::)

What administration!?!

:: shakes head ::

I mean god who do you people think you are at voodoofiles? Gods?

Random quote: "The administration has decided that it is in everyone's best interest not to upload the old posts from the previous iteration of VoodooFiles. "

::)

And that 3dfx help page. tisk tisk tisk


WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE?


LOL you're hilarious, you should have your own spoof forums.  Voodoofiles has been around alot longer than most other 3dfx boards.  Every argument you've given there is pathetic and groundless.  You don't like it, but our members do.  Some of our staff members have stepped down, because most of them have other things to do in their lives such as work and eduction, also many of our older members have simply got bored of 3dfx and it's assosicated fanboys and have moved on.  2 members?  Have you actually looked at the forums or do you have difficulty reading?

At VF we don't think we're gods, this is why we "hand out ranks" to people.  If we have good members we give them a chance to become moderators.  The uploading of the old posts would have caused the recent posts to be overwrited, you'd have to have a basic understanding of MySQL 4.x, and php script to understand this.

Yes as to the people I forgot you like "famous" names don't you?    but in fact to name a few:

fedaykin: co admin, a highly experienced user and designer of the help page, check google.com and eat your words.  (just like this board we have two administrators and I am not known for promoting fascism either so there goes your nazi theory)

psyno: moderator, experienced in all aspects of hardware/software.  I personally guarantee he is better educated than you and far more knowledgable in every respect.  But of course he isn't one of your famous names so that won't do at all!

Vuikie: ex mod/admin, was posting about 3dfx cards while you were still in nappies.  Lost interest in 3dfx and moved on, he does drop by occasionaly.

Sy: Same applies.

ThruYerStErNuM:  Wrote most of the game guide, and got many games working that others thought impossible including the "experts" on other boards.

ps47:  You should know him, he is continuing the work on the game guide, not trying to be a "big name", just helping people out.

And me, I'm not known either and don't want to be.  I don't set our to prove anything or make friends, I look for the truth and I agree with most of gdonovan's posting on this topic.  If you don't like Voodoofiles or my opinions thats good.  Because if I found myself agreeing with someone like you I'd get worried.  You'd be afraid to argue your point over there, because VF members would respond.  Stay where it's safe where they let you flame amp_man and that other geezer black_out, and you thought they were the same person...  I rest my case. ;)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 07.05.04 at 17:45:09

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2 members?  Have you actually looked at the forums or do you have difficulty reading?


hmm, sarcasm...


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Stay where it's safe where they let you flame amp_man and that other geezer black_out, and you thought they were the same person...


At first it seemed like it, seeing that amp_man happened to just register during those "debates".  ::)

The rest of the crap you posted does not matter as it does not affect me in anyway, so you basically wasted your time; clearly you have the time to waste. You basically gave me a run down of your pathetic little life and the people around it. None of those people have done anything to help this community. But nice try.  :D

Bottom line is, you seem to enjoy "bashing" 3dfx, do it in your own little forum, but don't do it here.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by beta on 07.05.04 at 17:58:36

wrote on 07.05.04 at 17:45:09:
hmm, sarcasm...


At first it seemed like it, seeing that amp_man happened to just register during those "debates".  ::)

The rest of the crap you posted does not matter as it does not affect me in anyway, so you basically wasted your time; clearly you have the time to waste. You basically gave me a run down of your pathetic little life and the people around it. None of those people have done anything to help this community. But nice try.  :D

Bottom line is, you seem to enjoy "bashing" 3dfx, do it in your own little forum, but don't do it here.



LOL, whatever you like little man... and you're right I don't have time for dweebs like you, my bird would kill me if she thought I'd responded to one of your stupid posts.  So cya.  ;D

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 07.05.04 at 18:07:43
You're still a nobody, well, everywhere except your little nazi forum.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by dborca on 07.05.04 at 18:22:43
beta, wtf is wrong with you? Do you have a size problem?

You are still missing Lecram's idea: this IS as 3dfx forum. Ok, you had your point. The 6k might not be whatever it was meant to be. Right! You think you make history by insisting on its flaws?

I am bemused as why the heck you trolls are visiting these forums? Are you little pathetic masochist sh!ts, or what? Are you sadistic muthaforkas that like to jerk off your new HW in front of obsoleted Voodoos?

Oh, and BTW, you're invited to

you know who you are!

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by 3Dfx-tweaker on 07.05.04 at 18:37:51
Damn this IS indeed a 3Dfx forum!!!!!!!!!!!
We are here to 'honor' 3Dfx technology not to critizise it in a bad way.  If you don't want to do that than go somewhere else. Because we don't need someone in this forum calling the V5 6k a JOKE!!!!!!!!!!!

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by beta on 07.05.04 at 19:00:34
This forum is not for me, goodbye to patience and falconfly I won't be posting here again. ;)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 07.05.04 at 21:53:04

wrote on 07.05.04 at 20:10:12:
::)
So i will quote Amigamerlin
"In this place all think voodoo ... if you aren't a voodoo user this is not the right place for you, simple and plain."

Really a great sentence...

Edit : hum, since this topic is/was about the V5 6000, a stupid card, i will put online a picture of a V5 6000 Revision A  ;D




Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by gdonovan on 07.05.04 at 22:58:28

wrote on 07.05.04 at 22:25:01:
Ok, The Card : V5 6000 Rev. A

ps : This Card owns its power supply, natürlich  :D


$300! $300! ;-)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by DenisF on 07.05.04 at 23:27:48
Not even hank can fix it? :(

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 08.05.04 at 02:13:52
It doesn't work, lol Check the board carefully, no traces whatsoever.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by DenisF on 08.05.04 at 02:29:40
Traces? uhhhhhhhh  ???


* was never a big expert on v56000

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by amp on 08.05.04 at 05:12:06

DenisF wrote on 08.05.04 at 02:29:40:
* DenisF was never a big expert on v56000


If you look at any card, you'll notice the lighter green lines, those are the traces where the signals are carried.

EDIT: Any card except that one, it has none :P


Quote:
So i will quote Amigamerlin  
"In this place all think voodoo ... if you aren't a voodoo user this is not the right place for you, simple and plain."

Really a great sentence...

Edit : hum, since this topic is/was about the V5 6000, a stupid card, i will put online a picture of a V5 6000 Revision A


That was somewhat below the belt. I'm not saying that I'm not a voodoo user, I use my voodoo box all the time, my brother has friends who come over and they get little games of UT or NFS 3 going on my main box, my P2 (voodoo box), and my other P2 (GF2GTS), and the voodoo box has by far the best quality picture of the three, although the main box gets better frame rates.  And hell, if I could get a V5 6k for $300, I probably would, mainly for that reason. But I'll be damned if I'm going to waste $1000 or more on an over-glorified, buggy card that I'm going to have to look for a special motherboard for, and then use software emulation for half the directx rendering anyways.


wrote on 07.05.04 at 18:07:43:
Impossible? no
Worth it? no

Ditch your Voodoos children.



Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by DenisF on 08.05.04 at 12:16:06
Ow i see

Well it's pretty sweet even if it doesn't work ;D

But to be honest, if it would be a choice of a radeon x800 for 300$ or a voodoo56k, id'e go for the x800..

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 08.05.04 at 16:43:25
WOW, you quoting me from 3dfxzone and not knowing what that means shows how much of a n00b you are amp_man.  ::)

Ditch You Voodoos Children is a key phrase, but I guess must have been in your "nappies" during that era.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by amp on 08.05.04 at 19:43:43
oh well, it was used against you almost as horribly as amigamerlin's was used against me.

anyways, f*ck this place, you people can load your dough into old pieces of cr@p if you want to, or string a dozen Voodoo 1s together to get the power, almost, of a Geforce2MX(!). Meanwhile, I'll be at my little Nazi forum, being the great Hitler's little Voodoo b!tch. So long suckers...

Oh yeah, and good luck with those OC contests, i hope you burn every single one of your voodoos up, cause you people really need to move on  ::)

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 08.05.04 at 22:03:47
You two idiots (amp_man and beta) have just proved my point: you live in your little nazi forum and troll other forums.
Like I said, NOBODYS!

Another bites the dust.

Next?

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by Lecram25 on 09.05.04 at 02:13:32
Here's more crap I found on your little forum to add to my arguement:


Originally posted by Beta in this thread

Quote:
Links

Please post any useful 3dfx related links you find in this topic, also feel free to link to this topic in your signatures by adding the following code:

Code:
<url=http://voodoofiles.net/voodooboard/viewtopic.php?t=2146]Links to Drivers and Other Useful Information[/url>


This is no where near complete yet, but it is hoped that it could be made more useful.

Note: Spam posted in this topic will be deleted without notice. Frequent offenders will be demoted to "Spammer". Irrelevant links will also be removed.


1) you want people to spam other forums with this crap in their sigs

2) and the rank thing comes into play again; beta, you are a forum nazi!

Get over yourselves.

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by VDX on 09.05.04 at 10:23:55
:o wow people are wacked, hope this post here is ok, anyone with a non-working 6000, im more than willing to purchase it from you,,,,anyone????? :P

Title: Re: V5 6000 - for those who have $$$!
Post by 3Dfx-tweaker on 12.05.04 at 21:33:41
Dude AMP_MAN you have to look at the pas to see the future!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If we would always forget what others have done before us we would stil live in caves!!!!!  ;)

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