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Doesn't make sence
30.03.06 at 21:30:44
Ok, got my server reloaded with everything (2x20 gig drives mirrored with the OS, 4x60 drives set up in RAID5-running Win 2003 Server) and move it into the room where I'm keeping it. Boot it up, doesn't detect any of the drives, nothing. Will not boot up. I get the bios screen and can go into the bios just fine but that's it. Move it back to my desk where I originally set it up and everything comes back up just fine. The only difference is that I'm using a KVM switch at the desk and have an actual mouse (usb optical), keyboard, and monitor where it will be stationed at. Move it back into the spot where it'll eventually be and nothing again. By this time, I'm starting to get irritated. Goes back to my desk for the second time and Whaalaa, working again. Any ideas?
The only thing I can think of is that the where it's getting plugged into isn't pulling enough juice to run everything. I don't know what else it could be. Why, in one spot, it'll boot up and load just fine and at another spot doesn't even detect the hard drives installed.
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31.03.06 at 01:45:02
O.K. try the following...
1. If you are using a KVM in the room where it is GOING to be used, but not at your desk...try using it without the KVM - as they can cause problems.
2. If you are using an extension lead for power, try plugging the P.C. power lead direct to the wall socket. Extensions can cause power drain if they are not up to spec for the power requirement (and with THAT many drives, I'm not surprised!)
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31.03.06 at 09:07:09
Plugged it directly into the wall, same thing. This is driving me nuts. The KVM switch is at my desk and is working fine, it's where the server works right now. It's at the location that it's supposed to go that everything is plugged directly into it (where it doesn't work). I have no idea why it's not working there. It's got to be a power issue, it's the only thing I can think of.
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31.03.06 at 17:14:23
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It's got to be a power issue, it's the only thing I can think of.
I'd try moving the KVM switch to the new location. Need to rule it out. I don't think it's power
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01.04.06 at 08:31:56
Thanks Gamma, I'll try that, just weird how it'd work with the KVM switch and not the regular equipment plugged in but I'll try that. Running out of ideas here. Just messed up, never seen this happen before. Irritating as hell and that case is not the lightest thing on the planet, weights more then my daughter does (ok, well almost
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13.06.06 at 23:18:47
Ok, back to this problem. I can't move the damn server without the kvm switch hooked up to and have it keep running. It boots up, but doesn't see any of the hard drives in it (basically I get to the bios screen and that's all I can do) with out the kvm switch. Makes absolutely no sence what's so ever. KVM switch is plugged into it, works just fine, all the drives show up and windows loads as normal, plug in Mouse, keyboard and monitor and it doesn't see the fricken drives. It's the only machine on the KVM switch and it has no external power so it has to pull the power from the server so what gives???? Anyone have any ideas on what this could be? I've tried using different mice and keyboards to no avail. I've tried it with the monitor, without the monitor (I can pcanywhere into it) and it's still nothing.
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14.06.06 at 00:11:38
Having the KVM switch connected to the server would guarantee that you have a mouse and keyboard connection that would satisfy the BIOS at bootup (assuming a (presumably PS2) mouse and keyboard are connected to the KVM). If I wanted to connect a USB keyboard to my machine, I would have to adjust a setting in the BIOS to enable USB keyboard support, otherwise, I would get a voice message at startup saying "No keyboard connected". So my question would be what kind of a mouse and keyboard are you trying to use at the new location (without the KVM switch)? If the keyboard is USB, do you need to enable USB keyboard (and perhaps USB mouse) support in the BIOS?
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14.06.06 at 01:27:46
Yeah, I've read those switches can be
very
tricky, especially if they emulate connected devices all the time (when switched to another Console) in order not to have otherwise unavoidable delays when Windows re-recognizes disconnected peripherals.
Another switch may help, or fully booting the Server and basically not changing KVM configuration until it is up & running.
Or (worst case) fire the Server up where it works (w/ extension power Cord if needed), then moving the running machine to its new location (watch for black cats crossing though
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14.06.06 at 16:10:12
yeah but what doesn't make sence is that the machine doesn't work right (none of the drives show up at all) if the switch
isn't
plugged into it. I mean if I have the keyboard, mouse and monitor plugged directly into the thing, it will not boot up. So you think maybe after it's booted up, try plugging the keyboard, mouse and monitor directly into it and then rebooting it might stop the emulation that the KVM switch might be doing?
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15.06.06 at 02:37:40
Try eliminating the devices that are plugged into the server one at a time.
i.e.
1. Try booting with just the monitor...
2. Then with the Monitor and Keyboard...
3. Then with all 3 of them.
If it doesn't work with just the monitor, try another monitor (if you have a spare).
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15.06.06 at 04:36:01
yeah, I'm going to have to try that, thanks man.
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15.06.06 at 11:54:17
Indeed weird, might be an indication that one of the peripherals (or the Connectors on the Board) are faulty or shakey (short or intermittent circuit), or one of the KVM wirings has a similar problem.
I wouldn't plug in a PS/2 Keyboard while running, as it can destroy the onboard Keyboard controller (in theory).
You might also have encountered an extremely rare incompatibility between one of the peripherals and the Motherboard (seen that only once in my life, but really weird stuff happens then).
But with generic, vanilla Keyboard and Mouse, the System should work out just fine.
Another extremely remote case would be, that there's an IRQ/IO conflict between the RAID controller (if it's an Add-on Card) and the Peripherals. If so and problems persisting, moving the PCI/PCI-X/PCIe Controller card into another slot can help.
Disabling unused resources in the BIOS (onboard Sound/Midi/COM/LPT ports) can also help.
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15.06.06 at 15:27:18
Thanks FalconFly, I'll go over that as well. All this testing will have to wait till this coming up weekend, just swamped with work right now, but very good ideas. I was running out of ideas on what to try and this info will help some. Thanks guys!!
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