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Message started by gamma742 on 18.12.05 at 02:58:08

Title: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 18.12.05 at 02:58:08
I pick up a V3_2K board on eBay, it's a Voodoo3 2000. I owned one of these before (haven't we all) but this one is clocked at 125MHz ???

I have the latest reference drivers on Win98SE and installed the V3 O.C. utillity. It's now running at 143MHz. I have the Q3 demo running in a continuious loop and it's been running fine now for about 15 minutes. Prior to the O.C. I Quaked it for an hour, no lock-ups.

The BIOS reads as a V3 2000 2.15.07.


Is this correct?  ???

Why does it run @ 125MHz Default



Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gdonovan on 18.12.05 at 10:26:22
What does the print say on the Bios decal?

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by Thandor on 18.12.05 at 17:36:11
And what kind of numbers (part numbers, revision numbers, and so on) does the card have ?

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 18.12.05 at 17:49:16
First thing that comes to mind is that the previous owner might have flashed the wrong bios.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gdonovan on 18.12.05 at 19:05:11

wrote on 18.12.05 at 17:49:16:
First thing that comes to mind is that the previous owner might have flashed the wrong bios.


Possible but the only 125 mhz V3 I know of is an SGRAM not SDRAM board.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 18.12.05 at 19:11:32
yeah the Voodoo3 1000 AGP 16MB the one compaq USA used for thier 5000 series PC's.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 18.12.05 at 21:25:04
On the Video BIOS screen it states 2.15.07 Voodoo3 2000

If you look at the pic in the auction you can see a square white sticker that says "CE" in big letters and under that it says 1.0(125)

At the top of the card above the memory is says:

(C) 1999 STB SYSTEMS INC.

Near the back of the AGP tab there is a white 3 inside a white square box.

Backside:

P/N 210-0364-003

Serial Number 0860001A000000000000099D8YA7

Near the back plate:

Ti3 (stencilled)
TW-5 RU   (The "R" is backwards)
94V-0 2399    (year 99 month 23??)


BIOS chip

ATMEL
AT49BV512
12JC
9932

Memory Chips

SEC KOREA 934
KM416S1120DT-G7

And the Card does have the new 3dfx Logo on the back.


The card ran fine for over an hour on the Quake3 Demo loop test Clocked @ 143MHz.


Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 18.12.05 at 21:26:09
What about the 125MHz Garnet card?

http://tweakers.net/ext/f/67870/thumb.jpg
thumbnail

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 18.12.05 at 21:33:43
Mine doesn't look like that. It looks like a standard V3 2K, Heatsink, Memory, everything..

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 18.12.05 at 22:00:19
I know, was talking about it's BIOS; 125MHz and SDRAM ;)

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gdonovan on 18.12.05 at 22:00:54

wrote on 18.12.05 at 21:25:04:
On the Video BIOS screen it states 2.15.07 Voodoo3 2000

If you look at the pic in the auction you can see a square white sticker that says "CE" in big letters and under that it says 1.0(125)


Damn skippy, a never seen before variation of a V3-2000 clocked at 125mhz!

All for $3.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 19.12.05 at 00:01:15
Hmm... Maybe I can trade it for something yummy 8)

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 19.12.05 at 00:39:08
Here are some pics of the card. Sorry about the BIOS screen, my camera is a cheapie...


You may have to click the image again to go full screen.


http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/1750/p81400285hj.th.jpg http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/7136/p81400291zg.th.jpg
http://img310.imageshack.us/img310/9724/p81400305mg.th.jpg

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 19.12.05 at 01:08:55
http://img286.imageshack.us/img286/9972/p81400320pz.jpg

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 19.12.05 at 01:19:41


[glb]The Default Clock speed for this card is 125MHz.[/glb]


http://img457.imageshack.us/img457/9061/p81400339qw.jpg

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 19.12.05 at 01:30:08
I find the BIOS version strange, according to Stanto's BIOS site it's a V3 3000 BIOS ???

http://welcome.to/3dfxbios

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gdonovan on 19.12.05 at 02:01:45

wrote on 19.12.05 at 01:19:41:
The Default Clock speed for this card is 125MHz.


It states that right on the Bios decal.


Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 19.12.05 at 02:05:39
So I take it, it's collector material :-/

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 14.01.06 at 03:55:02
Hi Gamma742 well it's 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 AGP 16MB 7ns Rev.C 2399 week 23 year 1999 a russian model I'm thinking :) RU is in short letter RUSSIA Maybe ALT-F13 would know alot more he's big in Ukraine and Russia ;)


Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 14.01.06 at 13:40:32
Thanks Thandor, I don't think the reversed "R" and "U" are significant, only that it's a V3 2K with a unique BIOS and a factory BIOS sticker to support that it is the correct BIOS for the card.

Right now it's just an extra V3 card to me and I'm in need of a card based on the V1 chipset so I posted it in the "Marketplace" for trade.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 14.01.06 at 14:33:59
Rather than polluting your marketplace topic I'll place it here;

I'm gonna go out on a limb and make the suggestion that a Q3D Obsidian (especially one with an extra TMU card) is worth more than this 125MHz V3.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gdonovan on 14.01.06 at 14:45:11
For you perhaps, but for someone else maybe not.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 15.01.06 at 01:03:18
Ah, but in the marketplace you asked for a 4220 card. That's a Voodoo Graphics with TWO TMU's.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 15.01.06 at 01:51:21
I can pull the ad if it really bothers you ???

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 15.01.06 at 13:00:25
No, no, no, it doesn't. I'm just saying, don't get your hopes up too much :)

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 15.01.06 at 18:54:58

wrote on 15.01.06 at 13:00:25:
No, no, no, it doesn't. I'm just saying, don't get your hopes up too much :)


Well, it's not like I'm desperate. Not being a hardcore collector I thought it might find a better home in someone elses collection. As stated in the "Marketplace" I'm looking for a card based in the V1 chipset. I won't trade it for a 4 MB Diamond Monster but might consider a 6 MB Pure3D w/TV out or better.

Are you interested in the card?

If I was willing to spend the time, I could probably just pick up a desent V1 card on eBay (cheap). I get to the point where I have too many cards laying around in the kitchen and the the wife starts bit@hing complaining.

http://img282.imageshack.us/img282/8687/kitchen4ex.th.jpg





Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by NitroX infinity on 15.01.06 at 19:18:00
No, I'm collecting cards in retail status for the moment. I'd like to get my hands on good boxes before there all lost to n00bs :)

Won't start collecting prototypes, etc. for a long time.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 11.09.06 at 21:14:03
Hey Gamma742

Maybe a little accident occured, that 3dfx accidently shipped a prototype instead of a production card?

If there are only 2 of these worldwide then it does sound like an accident has taken place during the packaging or production of them.

Could of been a mistake in the production plant maybe that a "type" error on the sticker and bios program error for it's stock speed as well.

Just a wild guess :)

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gamma742 on 12.09.06 at 04:28:10
Hmm... Donno :-/

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by Pablo on 05.12.06 at 01:29:29
bump.

I don't know if this has something to do with this,but thought about telling you this just in case:
when I tryed my v3 2000 pci 16mb in a pentium 133mhz machine that had the front side bus at 66mhz,the default speed was 125mhz. an utility I don't use anymore,"v3 tweaker" or something like that,I don't remeber,allowed to change the speed,and 125 was under the "green" color in
the speed bar,and as I said before,it started at 125 by default,everything reported that. sorry I'm not more specific,I don't remember all the details,I didn't pay attention.
oh,of course the card's regular default speed is 143mhz both here in the k6-2 500 and in a celeron 300.
at first I thought "maybe the faster processor or front side bus has something to do with it",but it's not like that because the celeron 300 has the front side bust clocked at 66mhz just like the pentium,but the speed is the same as here with the k6-2 having the fsb at 100 mhz.
anyway,just an anecdote I wanted to share.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by gdonovan on 05.12.06 at 04:10:41
A small number of Voodoo 3-2000 come with a default clock of 125 mhz for some reason.

Title: Re: Why the lower clock speed?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 06.12.06 at 21:17:57
Maybe it was a time when 3dfx was thinking to release a Voodoo3 2000 @ 125 Mhz which later became the Voodoo3 1000 AGP 16MB SGRAM 125 Mhz card but then again that card's PCB looks alot different , hmm just a wild guess.

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