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Reply #15 - 19.01.08 at 17:06:29
 
I took this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131234&Tpk=m3a

better in case you would like to have one extra pci slot (at the cost of two pci-e 1x slots)..bit cheaper as well.
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Reply #16 - 19.01.08 at 17:36:59
 
I considered the sparse number of PCI slots into account but really there is nothing I need in regards to PCI*

The onboard sound will do fine or I can throw in a Live 5.1 board (which may or may not be better, CL drivers have been junk for years)

Current network board is PCI, but that will go away too.

*I have a PCI modem for faxing and t there is a USB modem tucked away upstairs if need be.

My current P4 Gigabyte has served me well for years so I'm inclined to go that way again, and ASUS' reputation has been rolling downhill IMHO the last several years.
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Reply #17 - 19.01.08 at 21:10:20
 
Good call on the RAM, G.Skill is cheap but delivers stability and reliability otherwise seen only on much more expensive brands.
The company came out of nowhere just 2 years ago on the European market, and already got themself an excellent reputation for their excellent value.

The AMD 770 Chipset, however, is a power-hungry one... comparable to older power-hungry NVidia chipsets.
It'll do the job, but at upto +20W power consumption compared to the most power-saving Chipsets.

Its only advantages are the support for the faster HyperTransport V3.0 and the extended Power-Saving modes for the Phenom X4. Both play no role when using current Dual Core X2's / BE-2xxx.

The Athlon X2 BE-2400 is basically a 45W Athlon64 X2 4400+ (2.3GHz, 512k L2/core).

The fastest AMD 65W TDP CPU is currently the Athlon64 X2 5200+ EE (2.7GHz, 512k L2/core). For max. performance at optimum power saving it would be my CPU of choice.
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Reply #18 - 20.01.08 at 01:26:29
 
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The AMD 770 Chipset, however, is a power-hungry one... comparable to older power-hungry NVidia chipsets.


The numbers I saw were reasonable, something like 7 watts compared to upwards of 35 on the nvidia stuff.

I defer to your greater research though.
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Reply #19 - 20.01.08 at 01:29:06
 
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Its only advantages are the support for the faster HyperTransport V3.0 and the extended Power-Saving modes for the Phenom X4. Both play no role when using current Dual Core X2's / BE-2xxx.

The Athlon X2 BE-2400 is basically a 45W Athlon64 X2 4400+ (2.3GHz, 512k L2/core).

The fastest AMD 65W TDP CPU is currently the Athlon64 X2 5200+ EE (2.7GHz, 512k L2/core). For max. performance at optimum power saving it would be my CPU of choice.


1) I have an eye open for future upgrade paths, never hurts to keep options open.

2) The 5000+ is right at the price & performance point I'm looking for. If I was looking for larger power saving I could always downclock!

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Reply #20 - 21.01.08 at 02:08:39
 
Figures, the motherboard is out of stock! lol.

http://www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16814125070

I like this video board!
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Reply #21 - 21.01.08 at 19:18:33
 
If ATI is an alternative, take the Gigabyte 2600XT -> cheaper, better performance, lower power consumption.
And it's cooled passively, too.
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Reply #22 - 22.01.08 at 03:04:15
 
Parts on order! ('cept the video board)
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Reply #23 - 24.01.08 at 00:33:49
 
This thing is stupid fast, I have never seen Win2000 install so fast.
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Reply #24 - 24.01.08 at 02:51:59
 
This thing slices and dices DVD's like a hammer- It's the first time I have seen a 16x DVD reader actually holding the machine back instead of the CPU.

Both cores are tooling along with only 60% usage! 11 minutes flat to store a typical movie, before it would take 45 minutes to decode the same movie.

I might have to go over to the dark side and install XP though, there are some "!" in the system properties that the driver installs are not making go away.

Don't seem to be bothering the system and I know one is "cool and quiet" which AMD doesn't support under Win2k.. maybe it's finally time.
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Reply #25 - 24.01.08 at 10:54:10
 
weird,win2000 drivers seem to be available (the asus board is xp only)..no big deal,xp is just a service pack fo 2k anyway,once you disable all the kiddy flashy colory stuffed animal stuff you wont know the difference.slightly higher memory consumption is hardly an issue if you have 2gigs of memory..

btw,no tests with the asus board yet,had to RMA it-the board produced annoying buzzing sounds when accessing any type of drive (usb,sata,pata etc),no good for my low noise pc..would go for the gigabyte board now if I could,but it seems like gigabyte is not rushing the deliveries for central europe.

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Reply #26 - 24.01.08 at 12:18:53
 
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would go for the gigabyte board now if I could,but it seems like gigabyte is not rushing the deliveries for central europe.


I can pick one up for you if need be.

Installed XP last night, no "!" and it runs pretty darn sweet. I will do a reinstall due to the RAID setup as I did not install the RAID drives last night. Should be fun as the SATA drives are 3x faster than the PATA I was testing on last night.

I think I have an old box upstairs with an XP tag, perhaps a phone call to MS indicating the box was upgraded and they will let me use the SN.
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Reply #27 - 24.01.08 at 12:33:14
 
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If you have the option, disable it in the BIOS as it can cause stability issues. Wink
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Reply #28 - 24.01.08 at 13:07:41
 
Anyone know what is the difference between XP home and pro versions?
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Reply #29 - 24.01.08 at 13:56:32
 
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I can pick one up for you if need be.

thanks,no real need-its only a matter of time,and I have all the time in the world Smiley
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Anyone know what is the difference between XP home and pro versions?

this sums it up nicely.the differences are very minor,almost insignificant,at least from my point of view..
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Installed XP last night, no "!" and it runs pretty darn sweet.

yep,as much as I hate to say it,xpsp2 is a very solid system,and pretty much everything that was bugging me on sp0/sp1 is gone (nasty network problems if you have unstable internet connection,lag when opening shared network folders and some other minor things)..only the infamous 60Hz refresh idiotism is too hard to root out,it seems.


edit: one more sp2 idiotism: it comes with integrated media player 9,and I have no idea why,but this integrated version is busted in some horrible way,and wont cooperate with ANY of the codec packs out there (rainbow colors,inverted picture etc).full install of media player 10 fixes all those issues..
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