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Message started by osckhar on 28.06.05 at 16:51:28

Title: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 28.06.05 at 16:51:28
Hi,

Seeking on internet I found this marvelous 3Dfx sample. I contacted with a 3Dfx Engineer and  He sold to me his card and  It already is in my hands!!!  ;D

Voodoo5 5000 AGP4x 32Mb SGRAM
Rev. A0 3700 with NOT FOR RESAL tags on the board.

It works perfectly under Windows98 with the last original 3Dfx driver. Under Windows XP it just works in 2D Mode.





Regards,
Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Gemail on 28.06.05 at 17:22:40
So is it both AGP 4x & 1.5 V compliant ?

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 28.06.05 at 17:36:15

Quote:
So is it both AGP 4x & 1.5 V compliant ?

Nope, It only works to 3.3v.  :-/

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Eye-Q on 28.06.05 at 17:40:43
Nevertheless a really nice find you made there, congratulations :)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by frank-bao on 28.06.05 at 21:07:23
nice card!

:)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by TM30 on 28.06.05 at 23:30:29
nice find...

.... awwwrgh i also want my 5000  :-/

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 28.06.05 at 23:55:57
This is an intersting find Osckhar, it seems that there were quite a few of thes 5000's made, I wonder how many?

your model is a Rev.A0 3700 by the looks of it, possibly the latest of it's kind, but id we get the 5000 PCI it's design is alot older, they are reved and dated with Rev.A1 0900, this must be also the reason why 3dfx changed the model layout of the 5000 PCI to the AGP layout, smaller and there fore maybe easier to fit is other cases.

here the Voodoo5 5000 PCI 32MB Rev.A1 0900 from Edmundoab:
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/albums/V5-5000-PCI-Rev-A1/V5_5000.thumb.jpg

and here the Voodoo5 5000 AGP 32MB Rev.A0 3700 from Osckhar :)
http://www.3dfx.ch/gallery/albums/album201/V5_5000_AGP4x.thumb.jpg

as you can see the difference if rather big.

If anyone really knows why 3dfx changed they layout so differntly, would be nice to know.

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by gamma742 on 29.06.05 at 03:47:33
Nice find Oscar :o

It's a beauty ;)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by edmundoab on 29.06.05 at 03:48:46
Honestly I do find the AGP model a little odd with its RAM placement.
In anycase, congrats osckhar.

We see so many 5000 AGP popping up now.
I hope I'll get mine one day.

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Gemail on 29.06.05 at 09:31:11
If it isn't confidential, how much you had to pay for this rare card, osckhar?

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 29.06.05 at 09:57:11

Quote:
If it isn't confidential, how much you had to pay for this rare card, osckhar?

Expensive,  but does not matter. I needed it!!! ;)

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by edmundoab on 29.06.05 at 11:32:37
hahhaa, I guess its not disclosing the actual value of the item then ;) perfectly understandable

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 29.06.05 at 11:52:55
I am a 3Dfx prototypes LOVER. So, sometimes the price does not matter when you find a ITEM like this one!!!!  ;D

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Gemail on 29.06.05 at 12:42:58

wrote on 29.06.05 at 11:52:55:
I am a 3Dfx prototypes LOVER. So, sometimes the price does not matter when you find a ITEM like this one!!!!  ;D

I totaly respect that. I didn't mean to be nosy; just seeing this jewl I couldn't help myself asking ... You are right, when such a special card is available, the price shouldn't be the issue (that is if you can afford it, off-course :) )
Good luck finding more new rare prototypes, osckhar!

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 29.06.05 at 13:31:19

Quote:
Good luck finding more new rare prototypes, osckhar!

Thanks!!!  :)

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 06.07.05 at 15:52:08
v5 5500 Engineer Sample



Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by edmundoab on 07.07.05 at 15:50:55
very nice find osckhar!
congratulations

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 07.07.05 at 16:28:11
It was purchased to NapalmX from x3dfx forum jointly with 2 Obsidian SB200 and a PCI Raven! ;)

This card was bought by NapalmX to justdeal.com, he bought a V5 5000 AGP4x and he received the V5 5500 Engineer/Beta Sample with a V5 BOX without  codes/serial.

Thanks,
Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.07.05 at 17:53:22
and does it work well? like any othe Voodoo5 5500 AGP?

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 07.07.05 at 18:11:26

Quote:
and does it work well? like any othe Voodoo5 5500 AGP?

Nope, It boots but has not right 2D function. The card is not recognized for the driver. :( Perhaps it has a problem with his bios. It shows  rev. 1.01b (very early bios)  :o

Oscar


Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.07.05 at 19:11:48
hmm a shame, maybe the bios is only meant for the card to boot and that's it, heh really odd indeed. I do see a little rework above the AGP x2 connector, dunno why they did that.:

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by edmundoab on 07.07.05 at 22:17:32
well at least it is a not for resale card.
I missed out on that V 5000 AGP from justdeals.com also
not because I did not win the bid,
its because they only had 3 cards out of 5 advertised

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 29.09.05 at 16:26:45
V6K REVA2 2600



Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by gdonovan on 29.09.05 at 17:07:29
Hey, I have seen that card!

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 29.09.05 at 17:28:51

Quote:
Hey, I have seen that card!

LoL,
Perhaps, did you have it in your hands?

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by gdonovan on 29.09.05 at 18:05:12

wrote on 29.09.05 at 17:28:51:
Did you, perhaps, have it in your hands?


Yes! Yes! that's it!  ;D


Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 29.09.05 at 21:23:56

wrote on 29.09.05 at 16:26:45:
V6K REVA2 2600



Oscar



Nice catch Oscar :) congrats buddy :) The Force is Strong in you, I can Sense that, that is a 3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A2 2600 to be precise. it has 5.5ns Hyundai ram right? not like the 5.4ns ram on the following:

3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB 41-4999 Rev. 2x2 Comdex card,  
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A0 0700
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A1 1500
3dfx Voodoo5 6000 AGP 128MB Rev.A3 3400

Yeah cores/mem 166Mhz  some of those Rev.A2 2600's did have the fractionally faster 5.4ns SDRAM and some even ran at 183Mhz Core/mem speeds., does it work well with Rotated Grid FSAA x2, x4 & x8 modes as well? Well I surely hope so ;)



Well I won't be purchasn't any Voodoo's at this moment just suffered 2 deadly HDD Crashes, lost a 60GB HDD in my Main Voodoo5 rig not two weeks ago and today the same happened in my Dual OpteronDP 244 rig, Thank the Force that they weren't my Main HDD's of those two systems.

I replaced the dead Maxtor ATA 100 60GB by a Maxtor ATA-133 80GB in the AXP 2700+ and for the Dual OpteronDP 244 replaced the dead Maxtor ATA-133 60GB by a Maxtor ATA 120GB today not 4 hours ago.

so that are my reasons for no more Voodoo's, things happen and yeah I did have plans , but I scraped those.   :-/ :-/

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 07.10.05 at 20:36:40
v4 4800 64Mb AGP DVI&TV-OUT
Rev. A0 2600
Bios 1.11



Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 08.10.05 at 02:22:48
congrats my friend :) :9 that's cool man a Voodoo4 4800 AGP with TV-Out & DVI woei!

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by The_Cat on 08.10.05 at 15:06:17
Very nice crad Oscar. Congratulations  :D

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by TM30 on 08.10.05 at 20:05:02
nice!

where did you get it from?

(yeah man you do not need to give me name or adress, i only wanna know from which marketplace or private...)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 08.10.05 at 20:11:27

Quote:
where did you get it from?

(yeah man you do not need to give me name or adress, i only wanna know from which marketplace or private...)

Of course! From HERE ;)
(My collection 3Dfx auctions 'ebay')

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by BFG3dfx on 08.10.05 at 20:32:05
you do have very nice cards, i'll have togo check out your collection again  :)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 08.10.05 at 21:21:17

Quote:
you do have very nice cards

Now, I only have 3Dfx prototypes and Quantum3D cards. Before I had a big 3Dfx Collection!

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by edmundoab on 08.10.05 at 22:16:19
yes I am very aware of that  ::)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 09.10.05 at 02:54:38
heh what a coincidence..ofcourse.

the varriety is still small hehe if I compare it to Gary's collection  ;D but then again still a nice batch oscar, you should be proud of it like every 3dfx collector should be of thiers.

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by sloomy on 16.10.05 at 22:28:31

wrote on 07.10.05 at 20:36:40:
v4 4800 64Mb AGP DVI&TV-OUT
Rev. A0 2600
Bios 1.11



Oscar


32 or  64mb memory ?

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by TM30 on 16.10.05 at 23:44:11
64MB... read above the picture  :P

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by sloomy on 18.10.05 at 01:42:54

wrote on 16.10.05 at 23:44:11:
64MB... read above the picture  :P


LoL ;D

I know, it,  the question was about, whether the card can use the  64mb ram or just the  32 mb like gary's card.  ;)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 18.10.05 at 02:45:07

Quote:
I know, it,  the question was about, whether the card can use the  64mb ram or just the  32 mb like gary's card.  

At the moment until Gary or Hank find the solution our cards (Gary and Me) will have 32MB SDRAM! ;)

Take Care,
Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 26.10.05 at 20:26:08
V4 4500 copper PCB
Bios 0.29 V6k
Dated 4499 A
It works flawless.



ps. Thanks Jeff AKA recoton!  ;)

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 26.10.05 at 21:55:43
congrats with your VSA-100 Ovenboard ;)

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by TM30 on 26.10.05 at 23:05:11
very nice! WOW


Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by recoton on 27.10.05 at 07:24:42
osckhar i noticed the 2d wasnt the greatest but when you use the 3dhq drivers it thinks it does 8 sample aa.Im glad you got it ,the card sat in customs for 3 days.
glad you enjoy it .see ya

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by st4r4m4m4 on 30.10.05 at 17:19:50
Check this sale... not rare at all, but damn 36 pieces in stock and 1 year warranty, my calendar is showing 2005 and ther're selling banshees huh

http://www.etech4sale.com/hardware/partinfo-id-1965.html

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by NitroX infinity on 30.10.05 at 20:38:47
Note the: "Condition: Refurbished"

"Used stuff and checked if it works" in other words ;D

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by st4r4m4m4 on 30.10.05 at 21:07:14
But 36 items?

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 01.11.05 at 14:39:27
V4 4500 agp  TV&DVI 'prototype' with only 32Mb



V5 5000 AGP4x


DAYTONA PCI 16Mb


Oscar


Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 01.11.05 at 16:24:18
@ Oscar very nice but why 2 Voodoo5 5000 AGP's what's the purpose for that ??? is one defect?
Rather spoiled imho  :-X

Anyways that Voodoo4 4500 AGP + DVI & TV-Out 32MB is indeed a nice one, that used to be FalconFly's card :)

Sometimes I really wonder how many Voodoocards are found worldwide, anyone an idea about this one? maybe asamall 2500 in total, that still wouldn't be much for a worldwide population wouldn't it.

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 07.03.06 at 00:54:37
V5 5000 PCI SGRAM
Dated 4899 Rev A0




Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.03.06 at 01:04:08
hmm yeah Absolutely amazing again Oscar  BTW I sent ya a detailed PM i found more info to this baby .. old info from 5 years ago ;)

BTW as you can see this card can be fitted with a second VGA-Out that spot is even printed!!! which is very rare seen because most cards that have that spot empty also have no printed circuit only the holes for the pieces that belong there, Oscar's card has those parts allready in place , so theory this card can be upgraded to dual head Voodoo5 5000 PCI really ballistic!

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by osckhar on 07.03.06 at 01:24:10

Quote:
sent ya a detailed PM i found more info to this baby .. old info from 5 years ago  


Information about my V5 5000 PCI:
http://www.guru3d.com/tech/cebit2000/index3.html

Oscar

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.03.06 at 01:42:54
yeah that's sure is your baby Oscar  hehe I sent you that link once a time ago :)

This is the part that really says that the card reviewed is the card you have :)

The Voodoo 5 above is based on the version A0 VSA-100 silicon, it still has some bugs in it and it can't run on the speed that it's supposed to do. The final Silicon (which is going into mass-production quite soon) will run on 166MHz compared to the 100 MHz A0 version that was presented to me.


Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by gdonovan on 07.03.06 at 02:34:57
Just pointing out that A0 refers to the chip revision, not the board revision.

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.03.06 at 02:57:19
hmm strange that 3dfx would put REV.A0 on the PCB it's self:



if you compare the PCB of a V6K Rev.A1 1500 and Rev.A2 2600 the PCB's are totally different so are the Revisions, how should we determine the PCB's revision if REV A0 wouldn't be that ?

Where must I look for that? since that 4899 is the PCB date hehe aka Week 48 Year 1999 that is.

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by gdonovan on 07.03.06 at 12:00:23
That's the revison of the PCB which has nothing to do with the revision of the VSA-100 chip.

"The Voodoo 5 above is based on the version A0 VSA-100 silicon"

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 07.03.06 at 12:03:24

wrote on 07.03.06 at 02:34:57:
Just pointing out that A0 refers to the chip revision, not the board revision.

well now I'm confused first you say that Rev.A0 is the chip revision then you say:


wrote on 07.03.06 at 12:00:23:
That's the revison of the PCB which has nothing to do with the revision of the VSA-100 chip.

"The Voodoo 5 above is based on the version A0 VSA-100 silicon"


Rev.A0 is PCB Revision that is what I know for eons but where did you read the chip rivision from then?

Sorry Gary it's alittle too unclear :-X lol

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by garyatwork on 07.03.06 at 20:03:41
Read quote from article in regards to A0.

They are talking about the chip, not the board.

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 08.03.06 at 00:03:31
ah yes I see now heh oh well yeah makes alot more sense now :)

The Rev.A0 Chips run @ 100Mhz while the main product was planned to opperate @ 166Mhz :)

But Gary your 5000 PCI has a Rev.A1 PCB and 0900 date what Rev VSA-100's does that one have and what speeds do they run? 143Mhz like the Voodoo5 5500 AGP Rev.A1 0900?

Title: Re: Fishing on INTERNET...
Post by gdonovan on 08.03.06 at 12:10:03

wrote on 08.03.06 at 00:03:31:
The Rev.A0 Chips run @ 100Mhz while the main product was planned to opperate @ 166Mhz :)


Like any semiconductor I'm sure some A0 chips run at only 100 mhz safe and others at higher speeds. Since the V5-6000 was slated to run at 183 mhz I think that was the target speed for the chips with the "lesser" chips being used for the 4500/5500 cards.


Quote:
But Gary your 5000 PCI has a Rev.A1 PCB and 0900 date what Rev VSA-100's does that one have and what speeds do they run? 143Mhz like the Voodoo5 5500 AGP Rev.A1 0900?


Can't really say since when I obtained the board it did not have the original bios and I have not removed the fans to look at the chips.

I remember Hank remarking that the later V5-6000 used A3 chips and would run fine at 200 mhz... so the process was refined as time progressed and the design bugs squashed.

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