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Message started by ALT-F13 on 16.11.04 at 16:59:19

Title: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside :)
Post by ALT-F13 on 16.11.04 at 16:59:19
Just read in some thread a sceptical post by patience about existence of rare ATI cards.

Well, for a few years i collected a pictures of strange videocards so I definitely can tell you that ATI and NVidia have plenty of interesting cards (even FX 5800 Ultra is quite rare as only a few thousands were made - that's nothing for worldwide market:)). But pictures are boring so i switched to actual cards :)

Here is a photo of my ATI prototype card:



And a few links to other photos of the item:
http://itc.ua/img/testlab/2003/aticompetition2.jpg - back side
http://itc.ua/img/testlab/2003/aticompetition3.jpg - sticker
http://itc.ua/img/testlab/2003/aticompetition4.jpg - GPU
http://itc.ua/img/testlab/2003/aticompetition5.jpg - Testing (notice monitor connection!)

This is one of 20 produced AGP cards with ATI Radeon Mobility 9000 chip which were used for internal testing of this notebook-oriented GPU. It has 64 Mb of DDR memory: one more weird thing - I've never seen 4.5 ns BGA chips from Samsung! Clocks are 250/400 MHz for this unit and 220/360 for second card. It have 2 DVI connectors (one in very strange place!) and one unidentified connector...

I won this card year ago in ATI/DriverHeaven Extreme Overclocking Competition (just was lucky enough to get Pentium 4 Extreme Edition in October 2003 - first in the world amongst xtreme OCing people). The second similar card owned by my pal Laikrodiz: he won it in the same contest by showing people his mutilated Frankenstein Radeon 9500 NP. Actually his R9500 deserved prize: we resoldered 2.5 ns memory from FX 5600 Ultra, replaced half of capacitors, did 4 voltmods, added dedicated watercooling system, spent enough time to find the right BIOS not mentioning some everyday mods like unlocking 8 pipilenes... Card overclocked like hell, giving over 24600 points in 3DMark 2001... Still a second place in the world ranking for R300-based cards :)

So just wanted to show this unique piece of non-3dfx hardware :)

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by 3Dfx_tweaker on 16.11.04 at 18:02:54
Can you give us more info on rare cards form Ati and Nvidia. Another rare card is that dual r350 board from Sapphire.

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by gdonovan on 16.11.04 at 18:04:45
I love it! Too cool!

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by osckhar on 16.11.04 at 18:22:47
@ALT-F13,
Beautiful Card! ;D

Regards,
Oscar

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 16.11.04 at 21:28:15
What is the good pupose of that DVI connector near the VESA connector, this is the most strangest VGA card I've ever seen.

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by 3Dfx_tweaker on 16.11.04 at 21:32:17
It is just a test card. Completely useless for normal use, but usefull for testing.

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by ALT-F13 on 16.11.04 at 22:03:34
Thanks everybody. Yep definitely a gem of my collection, though not 3dfx-branded...

@3Dfx_tweaker
I'll try to gather my pictures and comments in one place on my site ModLabs.net (not-3dfx related, its a biggest russian casemodding/Xtreme OC resource). Maybe it'll be a article about some rare hardware... Just plz be patient because i'm very busy now with current tasks. But i will do that, i promise.

Dual R350 card from Sapphire is currently owned by my friend, THE collector of videocards - Andrew Worobiew from iXBT.com (he owns just loads of different 3D cards). You might remember his recent round-up for 101 videocard 1999-2004: i saw recently a link on one of 3dfx fan forums. I'll post link here, hope this article has english version.

Regarding "useless card". It is pretty normal in all terms except look: detects by drivers as Mobility Radeon 9000, works great in 2D and 3D. Overclocks good. Laikrodiz done a 3DMark 2k1 world record for Mobility 9000 on this card, about 9600 points...
Xtreme OCing and 3DMark benching is my main hobby thats why i return to this often in my posts;) Gonna get more than TM30 on V5 5500 but need a decent Athlon XP rig for that. And i believe voltmodded/waterchilled V5 5500 should go much over 210-220 MHz...

Obi-Wan_Kenobi
There a two normal DVI connectors (includind top-mounted one) and one weird - dunno for what it is used. I believe this should connect to notebook TFT panel or such...

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by 3Dfx_tweaker on 16.11.04 at 22:28:56
Your friend is a very lucky guy!!!!!
I thought it was difficult to purchase such cards in Russia. I meant useless in sence of using it mobile  ;).
But there was lately one partiular card that looked amazingly strange, I believe it was posted here.

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by ALT-F13 on 16.11.04 at 23:01:41
@3Dfx_tweaker
Well, actually to _buy_ here something unusual you should be freaking lucky ;) In average even V3 PCI costs over $30 and is hard to find still...

Both these pseudo-mobile cards were won by me and Laikrodiz in a contest held by ATI directly, not bought.

I also have an engeneering sample of reference Radeon X800XT Platinum Edition (funny it has 525/1150 clocks instead of normal 525/1125) and reference NVidia GeForce 6800 Ultra but actually except some stickers and BIOS they are just average cards so nothing so special. I use first one as my main card now, voltmodded and watercooled it does 675/1250 MHz. Gonna mount my phase-change cooling on it and see how far it will go with FX-55 (last time i worked with card i had only FX-53@3GHz and unlucky ASUS A8V Deluxe sample)...

Andrew Worobiew is a video hardware editor for 8 years so his collection is mostly the reviewing samples from vendors. I never asked how many cards he have exactly but the whole wall in the room is decorated by bare cards (no boxes!) side-to-side. I'll post a pic tomorrow - sry now I reply laying in bed with Pocket PC + GPRS, so speed is really low and i'm to lazy to find it :)... That dual R350 was a present to him from Sapphire representative.

What "amazingly strange" card are you talking about?

I received your PM hope you don't mind i'll reply here ;) When I'll have free time we'll do a research for voltmodding at least for Voodoo 2 and Voodoo 5 5500. I'll publish guides and give links in this forum as soon as it will be completed but can't promise anything right now regarding terms.

Also I checked V5 5500 for RAM chips. Those Hyindai 6 ns are really weak, i believe i'll replace it by something more OCing-friendly... Just don't want to mutilate the only V5 5500 card i have _at the moment_, as soon as i will find one more, this will go to the lab :) After re-soldering BGA memory chips with old-fashioned electric oven and broken hairdryer (it do xtreme heat instead of normal) it should be an easy task...

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by ALT-F13 on 17.11.04 at 12:56:55
As for rare NVidia cards, THE most interesting ones were produced by Canopus Japan. They were almost the same what Quantum3D is for 3dfx :) Not in terms of close relations but in card production. Japanese made unique PCBs for each NV chip until GeForce FX 5800 - i never saw any Canopus-branded FX cards unfortunately.
How do you like i.e. GeForce 256 with additional power connector? http://www.hardwarehistory.com/images/oldhard/video/spectra7400.jpg (378 KB) (Pic not mine:))

Any Canopus boards after Riva TNT is very hard to find outside Japan, unfortunately :(

And as i promised - pics of Andrew Worobiew collection:
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage1.jpg
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage2.jpg
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage3.jpg

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by TM30 on 17.11.04 at 13:12:38
i also got some cards, not really rare but unusual...


Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by ALT-F13 on 17.11.04 at 13:17:01
Quandro 4 NVS? Definitely nice!

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by LuxKiller65 on 18.11.04 at 21:27:38

wrote on 17.11.04 at 12:56:55:
As for rare NVidia cards, THE most interesting ones were produced by Canopus Japan. They were almost the same what Quantum3D is for 3dfx :) Not in terms of close relations but in card production. Japanese made unique PCBs for each NV chip until GeForce FX 5800 - i never saw any Canopus-branded FX cards unfortunately.
How do you like i.e. GeForce 256 with additional power connector? http://www.hardwarehistory.com/images/oldhard/video/spectra7400.jpg (378 KB) (Pic not mine:))

Any Canopus boards after Riva TNT is very hard to find outside Japan, unfortunately :(

And as i promised - pics of Andrew Worobiew collection:
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage1.jpg
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage2.jpg
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage3.jpg


:o :o :o :o :o

WADDAAAAAAAAAAHELL!

*can't say anything*

:o :o :o

that's just... deadly...

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by Blackbird on 19.11.04 at 12:41:50

wrote on 17.11.04 at 12:56:55:
As for rare NVidia cards, THE most interesting ones were produced by Canopus Japan. They were almost the same what Quantum3D is for 3dfx :) Not in terms of close relations but in card production. Japanese made unique PCBs for each NV chip until GeForce FX 5800 - i never saw any Canopus-branded FX cards unfortunately.
How do you like i.e. GeForce 256 with additional power connector? http://www.hardwarehistory.com/images/oldhard/video/spectra7400.jpg (378 KB) (Pic not mine:))

Any Canopus boards after Riva TNT is very hard to find outside Japan, unfortunately :(

And as i promised - pics of Andrew Worobiew collection:
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage1.jpg
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage2.jpg
http://ixbt.com/video2/images/over2k4/collage3.jpg

Hmm the 3 Pics are not showing up :( Can someone host them?

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 19.11.04 at 19:09:07

wrote on 17.11.04 at 13:12:38:
i also got some cards, not really rare but unusual...



I suppose that this card uses 3dfx SLI technology ?

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by TM30 on 21.11.04 at 03:28:11
possible... but this card is not used to be for 3D.... you can connect 4 monitors on it... each GPU  handles 2 monitores...

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by ssstjy on 20.02.07 at 08:40:38
i saw 100 pieces  ATI  ES

there  are rare  X600 R90000




Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by SAT+KABEL on 20.02.07 at 22:12:46
Wel thatīs a cool thread.

Iīll loveto see these amazingly rare cards.

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 20.02.07 at 22:29:52

wrote on 20.02.07 at 08:40:38:
i saw 100 pieces  ATI  ES

there  are rare  X600 R90000



heh it's free to dream ofcourse. ::)

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by exxe on 20.02.07 at 22:37:37
Nice card

2x DVI
one direct one with silicon image chip
and one DFP
and TV



but how dig this thread out?

Title: Re: Not only 3dfx produced weird cards! ATI inside
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 20.02.07 at 23:01:41
@ ALT-F13

To continue this thread is a nice idea, but it should of been placed in the This and That area, since it isn't really that 3dfx based :)

So to continue this topic go to the ATi Discussion Thread I have made here:
http://www.falconfly-central.de/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=offtopic;action=display;num=1164418789;start=150#150

therefore it is locked from here on :)

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