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Reply #105 - 06.02.07 at 20:55:11
 
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ATi as Nvidia have much more experience by making such powerfull Graphics accelerators.


Your point of view baffles me- It was a 3dfx & Nv party for years with ATI being the weak sister of the bunch.

How do you justify your statment? For years ATI sold cheap graphics chips and which was their bread and butter till the 8000 series was released.

Don't underestimate the enemy, 3dfx did and look what it got them.

Intel tried entering the "stand alone" graphics market, i740 ring any bells? It's more profitable to sell low end vga solutions, as ATI did.
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Reply #106 - 06.02.07 at 21:03:24
 
heh I read the dutch news today and it stated this:
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/46211/Videokaarten:-ATi-groeit-ten-koste-van-VIA.html

Volgens het marktonderzoek van Jon Peddie heeft ATi in het vierde kwartaal 2,1% aandeel gewonnen op het gebied van videochips. Aartsrivaal nVidia verloor ondertussen 0,3% en Intel won 0,3%, waardoor de grootste slag gewonnen lijkt te zijn tegenover VIA, dat 2% verloor.

ATi had the largest increase that was the headlines of that news and also the main thing about that news what lies around that is not of intrest! Wink

ATi made the lagest gain qua procentage, it's not about who has the most territor, it was about who made the biggest gain comapred to quarter 3 and quarter 4 2K6, and that was ATi, all the info is there Smiley
http://tweakers.net/nieuws/46211/Videokaarten:-ATi-groeit-ten-koste-van-VIA.html

Tweakers.net is one of the most reliable sources for Digitial and computer news on the web in the BeneLux system, just wanted you to know, they got the source from X-Bit labs, it should read in english there.
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070205075010.html

By looking at this result's graph:
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AMD/ATi made the largest gain of all groups aka +2,1%, it isn't about who's on top, it's mainly about who made the largest positive leap forward Wink
and as the title of the X-Bit article reads :

Shipments of Graphics Adapters Flat – Jon Peddie Research.
AMD Begins to Fight Back Desktop Discrete Graphics Market
Grin

therefore no need to baffle Gary, just relax Tongue
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Reply #107 - 06.02.07 at 21:43:14
 
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ATi had the largest increase that was the headlines of that news and also the main thing about that news what lies around that is not of intrest! Wink


Then you are a blind fool-

Kia of america increased it sales of cars a whopping ***40%*** for the month of November while Chrysler only increased it's sales 2%.

Buy Kia stock right? Till you look at the SALES NUMBERS and see that Kia sold 10,000 cars and Chrysler over 150,000.

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AMD/ATi made the largest gain of all groups aka +2,1%, it isn't about who's on top, it's mainly about who made the largest positive leap forward Wink


Hate to break it to you- As someone who is in business it's very much about who is on top. Volume sales is where the money is.
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Reply #108 - 06.02.07 at 23:13:47
 
Heh, sorry guys - I just took the context from the forum posts rather than reading the article @Obi linked to... Roll Eyes

...just been to d@mn busy lately! Tongue
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Reply #109 - 07.02.07 at 01:14:05
 
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Then you are a blind fool-

Kia of america increased it sales of cars a whopping ***40%*** for the month of November while Chrysler only increased it's sales 2%.

Buy Kia stock right? Till you look at the SALES NUMBERS and see that Kia sold 10,000 cars and Chrysler over 150,000.


Hate to break it to you- As someone who is in business it's very much about who is on top. Volume sales is where the money is.

Come back to your senses! Shocked what you are aiming at isn't what I posted. Shocked

it was this that I posted and nothing more:

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hahah yeah you got a good point there, heh that card may be made of clay heh who knows, but yeah, it isn't good enough to state the real evidence Wink

Well something nice comming soon here in The Netherlands Smiley
ATi.AMD R600 was in Amsterdam in March
http://uk.theinquirer.net/?article=37407

Heh Amsterdam is just a 180KM drive down the road from where I live, heh just out of town if I have to think in Australian distances Grin

hah! good news here as well Smiley
http://www.jonpeddie.com/about/press/2007/FirstLook_Q406.shtml

NVIDIA loses 0.3% marketshare, ATI gains 2.1% Tongue


So will you stop threating me please Undecided , because all I posted was that positive thing about AMD\ATi's 2.1% gain.

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Then you are a blind fool-



Please do mind I am very disletic... it's not very kind to spot about that and no I am not blind, been going to the hospital for my eyes for 3 years and blindness was major threat back then, the infection I have is still unknown, so please be carefull what you say next time.
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Reply #110 - 07.02.07 at 10:48:13
 
The term "blind fool" refers to someone who will not see facts, it has nothing to do with your actual vison.

Perhaps the ATI fanboy love is best left to an ATI forum eh?
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Reply #111 - 07.02.07 at 13:14:37
 
Okay okay we know now that you are not fond of ATi cards, then I'm thinking why post here if ATi isn't your kind of thing?

And btw this topic has been made for the ATi users and to discuss about new ATi cards and also made for troubleshooting with ATi cards, not to start a flame war, in which your case would be leading...
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Reply #112 - 07.02.07 at 14:06:27
 
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Okay okay we know now that you are not fond of ATi cards, then I'm thinking why post here if ATi isn't your kind of thing?



As I pointed out before your argument lacks logic- I own both an 9800pro and a X850.

If I dislike ATI so much then why did I just purchase an X850 a few months ago? Your argument falls on it's face.

What I object to is your ATI fanboy attitude while proclaiming your not an ATI fanboy and then stating everyone else who points it out as being either anti-ATI or pro Nvidia.

The facts are what the facts are.

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btw this topic has been made for the ATi users and to discuss about new ATi cards and also made for troubleshooting with ATi cards



If that is the case, why are you posting information regarding market share? It has nothing directly to do with troubleshooting or new hardware.

I suggest taking this attitude to an ATI forum, it isn't welcome here.
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Reply #113 - 07.02.07 at 18:30:16
 
well if ATi is welcome only not for your part, why are there so many ATi users in the first place Wink

But since you don't like this subject you may have it your way .

To make an end to this charade, just close this topic mate, really it is all up to you for that part, not me, I'm no admin Gary.

Jij je zin toch?

Vielen glück mit deine betragen Smiley
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Reply #114 - 07.02.07 at 18:41:27
 
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well if ATi is welcome only not for your part, why are there so many ATi users in the first place Wink

But since you don't like this subject you may have it your way .

To make an end to this charade, just close this topic mate, really it is all up to you for that part, not me, I'm no admin Gary.

Jij je zin toch?

Vielen glück mit deine betragen Smiley
Why are you saying that the topic should be closed? That useless and dumb. If it's up to me the topic can stay open and people can discuss about ATi as long as the useless fanboy stuff is stopped. After all I'm (and probably lot's of other people too) not interested in 'how great ATi is and that nVidia, VIA, SiS and Intel sucks all day'. I just want information about the latest ATi chips. Real numbers, real stories and no useless fanboy stuff.

Is it that hard to talk about brands in an objective way?
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Reply #115 - 07.02.07 at 19:03:06
 
heh I don't have a problem with that, I open this topic first to discuss about new ATi cards also featuring the R600 Smiley

Though it was a good idea, then there were people that had some troubles with their cards so also the reason I changed the topic title Smiley

But since there were a few that had a problem with this type of topic, if you read the other posts, that made me think, let it be so.

I am very simple with that type of decissions.

It's not my will to close this topic, but if there are some that can't stand these topics, then it might be best to close them, it would only lead to confusion, hatred and pointless continuous discussions, which is in my point of view a waist of energy and time, got more important things on my mind.

It's not my intention to make people feel dispressed or so on, it's just what happened on the last few pages, made me agree to that idea.

I use Ati cards because of the oerall better experience I had with them than cards from nVidia, really I have backhand cards like nVidia's award winning Leadtek GeForce4 Ti4600, great card nothing wrong with it at all, it's that the drivers lack the great layout and extra possibillities like Theater mode and so on, the image quallity on ATi cards is also over much clearer in my opinion than that of others, others may see that differently, no probs with that, it's that being shouted out by users as an ATi FanBoy, sorry that's not true, they are mostly FanBoy's themselves, they are actually too chicken to relise that themselves, they are the types that should be ignored and left out.

And hey it's good t have a difference of GFX taste out there righty! Grin
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Reply #116 - 07.02.07 at 19:15:01
 
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But since you don't like this subject you may have it your way .


*You* are the one defining the topic, not I.

You just stated a few posts ago that the topic was for hardware troubleshooting and discusion of new hardware and now it isn't?

Please explain?
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Reply #117 - 07.02.07 at 19:23:18
 
"Winning an argument on the Internet is like running the Special Olympics - even if you win you're still a retard"

Very harsh and sarcastic, but there's alot of truth to it.

Sorry but topics like this should be closed and not argued about, we are two good friends and places like this can only make us think of bad things.
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Reply #118 - 07.02.07 at 19:35:29
 
Obi it's not about "winning or losing" it's about having a rational discussion, further insults to people will get you nowhere on this board.

This little brush up came about when you insisted I was pro-Nvidia and ATI should not be held accountable for the problems encountered running thier hardware.
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Reply #119 - 07.02.07 at 19:39:23
 
If I would insult people I would rather let myself get banned or remove myself.

Being a danger for otherusers isn't my intention, and really I haven't threatend someone yet heh.

FlaconFly would of taken note there, I think we just don't mix, we both have our own ways of thinking, reading and yes posting and that collides from time to time, which is a shame really, I have indeedly posted somethings that's weren't that well done so did you, we both have our problems.
It's that I don't want to loose good friend liek this, it would be the most rediculous way ever.


So here by my last post.

My appologies on what has happened here, if you would like to talk about it feel free to continue online.
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