Now since I have had unidentified 3Dfx cards and I noticed that other collectors also have some of theirs unidentified I tought about creating a topic (this topic) for us users to post our unidentified card's pics, and share knowledge, this also would go for "I have seen something somewhere" situations, just feel free to post the card's pic
(!to prevent flooding the topic I would advise to everyone to first look at FalconFly's identifiying sub-page http://www.falconfly.de/identify-3dfx.htm before posting some pics)

Also.. try to post thumbnails with links to the hi-res pics so noone gets bandwith-hurt

True indeed, I was not sure if mention it or not... but, you just did and such a link in a topic like this is welcome.

Well about identifying sites, since I intend to make a little 3dfx page, I was thinking to make an identifying sub-page combining NitroX's list with pics, all this made in a reliable way, so there is no wrong info/pics like on 3dfx.cz
By pics I meant good photos taken by us collectors so we don't have lo-res 3rd-party pics and for that I would sure need some help here at falconfly's

If anyone might be interested in such project feel free to give some opinions.

Well we'll have to work together then and doublecheck everithing, and in my opinion the best info we can get is directly from a specific card's owner so every item on the list is properly checked.

Sorry I got no horses ,

Frankly I was mixed up with this site:
http://www.3dfx.cz/3dfx.htm

eum woops.

yeah there are plenty things to name about.

Voodoo 4 - 4800 AGP
jádro        166-183 MHz  ----->166Mhz
paměti        166-183 MHz  ----->166Mhz
64 MB SDRAM
trianglerate        > 10 MT/s
fillrate        333-366 MTexel / s
RAMDAC        350 MHz
sběrnice        AGP 4
výstupy        D-Sub, DVI, TV


Voodoo 4 - 4800 již nevyšla. Od verze 4500 se měla lišit především výstupem TV-out a DVI. Karta vychází ze stejného PCB, jako V4-4500; to je ale plně osazeno (64MB, TV-out, DVI).


Voodoo 4 - 4800 PCI ----->Voodoo4 4500 PCI
jádro        166-183 MHz   ----->166Mhz
paměti        166-183 MHz ----->166Mhz
32 MB SDRAM
trianglerate        ~ 10 MT/s
fillrate        333-366 MTexel / s
RAMDAC        350 MHz
sběrnice        AGP 4 / PCI ----->PCI Only
výstupy        D-Sub, DVI, TV


Voodoo 4 - 4800 PCI by pravděpodobně disponovala 32MB, jde v podstatě o V4MAC s osazeným TV-out.

they refer this as a Voodoo4 4800 PCI:


but it's actually a Voodoo4 4500 PCI 32MB With DVI/TV-Out.

then we have the great hoax talk about the Voodoo5 6500:

Voodoo 5 - 6500 ----->2x2 Comdex 1999 V56K
jádro        183 MHz ----->183Mhz V3 3500 cores
paměti        183 MHz ----->183Mhz  5.4ns Toshiba
128 (256?) MB SDRAM ----->128MB
32 (64?) MB na čip 1 ----->4x 32MB aka total of 128MB
512bit (4*128)
trianglerate        ? ----->none, card does not function!
fillrate        1466 MTexel / s ----->none, card does not function!
RAMDAC        350 MHz ----->none, card does not function!
sběrnice        AGP 2
délka        250 mm



then under that there is a graph with all the rev's well there a lot's of them that are not filled in propperly with the right ram speeds and timings.

there is als this little graph:

210-0391-001-A0 [0700]  první revize, Intel, 5,4 ns Toshiba

210-0391-001-A1 [1500]  první revize, Intel, 5,4 ns Toshiba
210-0391-001-A2 [2600]       druhá revize, HiNT, 5,4 ns Toshiba --->5,5 ns Toshiba
210-0391-001-A3 [3400]       třetí revize, HiNT, Toshiba, asi 5,4 ns
210-0391-001-A [3700]       poslední revize, HiNT, 6 ns Hynix, záruka funkční karty

210-0391-001-A [3900] poslední revize, HiNT, 6 ns Hynix, záruka funkční karty 12 layers as only difference aside Rev.A 3700 model.

the type of 6K with this picture:

is not a Rev.A 3700 but a Rev.A3 3400 with 183Mhz cores and 183Mhz 5.4 ns Toshiba SDRAM

and also the info about the Voodoo5 5200 AGP 64MB DDR isn't correct well let's say sure either:

Voodoo 5 - 5200
jádro        cca 200 MHz
paměti        cca 200MHz
2*64 MB DDR
fillrate        cca 800 MTexel / s
RAMDAC        350 MHz
sběrnice        AGP 4


Voodoo 5 - 5200 měla nahradit Voodoo 5 - 5500. Návrhy této karty jsou hotové, 14 dní po uzavření společnosti měl být vyroben prototyp. PCB 5200 vychází z PCB Voodoo 4 - 4200 AGP, které bylo schválně navrženo tak, aby tento krok snadno umožnilo. Pokud se podíváte na obrázek (např. nahoře na této stránce), tak si všimnete, že PCB je velice úzké a čip s pamětmi je umístěn poměrně blízko u sebe. To bylo cílené. Jednoduchou úpravou je pak možné vytvořit Voodoo 5 - 5200. Nabízím jednoduché schéma:

the idea is wel thought of but still isn't real exsisting info that is stored in the 3dfx archives.
on this picture they have created the Voodoo5 5200 design:

well thought but it's morely a hoax and some well created Photoshop work

same as for the result:


That wouldn't even bepossible the VSA-101's are too close too each other though it's still well thought ofcourse. but since when does a Voodoo5 have a TV-out hehe 8) Man that would of been Wacko to have around, and the size also so small!

that are some details which arn't correct. though I did correct them

I rather see benches in Unreal, Unreal Tournament, Tactical Ops or even Descent3, they all have 3dfx Glide, which is more interesting.

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4500 = 32 mb
4800 = 64 mb
5000 = 32 mb
5500 = 64 mb

Never has a 4500/5500 prototype board been spotted with 5.5 ns ram and I think I have most of them including the first 4500 PCB revision and the first 5500 PCB revision.

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5.4 ns ram.

I have a 2600 A2 V5-6000 here and it has 5.5 ns ram.

The clockspeed on the V5-6000 was dropped in a vain attempt to make it stable. I say vain since the problem was a design flaw that had nothing to do with clockspeed.

Daytona SLI- Yes 3dfx was considering a Daytona 5500 & 6000 but I'm sure the projects would have been canned. With Rampage up and running starting a new project that duplicate efforts would have not been smart and Daytona was a chip for OEM market.

IF the Daytona 5500 was made it would have been a stacked design.

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Why I always go right to the source.

Gary (my main computer is offline at the moment)