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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #75 - 27.06.13 at 13:41:46

@Loeschzwerg:

According to Oscar PCB is warped a little bit. Bios is tested by him on his card and it work.

@osckhar:

This afternoon, I will try to contact Hank and ask about it.
If I have an answer from him I let you know because it's hard to speak with him. He is very busy.
You can confirm and post a screenshot of the bended part please?

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Reply #76 - 27.06.13 at 14:14:28

What I would do is reballing the first rampage chip 'dead' and check how the traces and substrate react. I guess the traces and substrate come with a special protection and I imagine I can work there since I must use the soldering iron to take out the leaded and clean the zone with solder wick copper.

@Dominik- PCB is little warped but not sure if the cause for bad contact but soldering the chip is the best option to know if is or NOT a contact problem.

About adding the missing balls 2ND RAMPAGE CHIP would be not a problem since I can add them and keep the presents with patience.

@Michel- keep me informed about what Hanks tells you.

NOTE- All the parts from Michel's cards works ok on my card. I mean test socket, chip and bios.

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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #77 - 27.06.13 at 18:20:30 If all other parts are working, then there should be something with the board or with the chip connection. Pressing more the chip would cause damaging ! Michael: if you ask me, I would solder the chip ! There is nothing to lose in my opinion. Unsoldering is always possible.
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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #78 - 28.06.13 at 11:02:05

Hi,

Yesterday I am trying to contact Hank without luck.

@osckhar:

I take my decision now.
I accept you put the chip directly on the pcb.
I will take some risks but I want to take them to progress Sad

Even if the card doesn't boot with that you can leave in this state and search others parts to find the problem.

Thanks Undecided

@m14radu:

Thanks for your support.

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Reply #79 - 28.06.13 at 11:08:37

trevormacro wrote on 28.06.13 at 11:02:05:

Hi,

Yesterday I am trying to contact Hank without luck.

@osckhar:

I take my decision now.
I accept you put the chip directly on the pcb.
I will take some risks but I want to take them to progress Sad

Even if the card doesn't boot with that you can leave in this state and search others parts to find the problem.

Oky! This afternoon I will start to work in your card.

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Oscar.

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Loeschzwerg Senior Member Offline AAlchemy PSU maker :-) Posts: 396 Germany -> Bavaria -> Augsburg Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #80 - 28.06.13 at 11:14:19 Good luck!
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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #81 - 28.06.13 at 11:18:54

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Talking about bad contact.

Here with my Rampy card.

Bad contact- NO DONGLE.

Good contact with clamp- NO DONGLE. Rows present since one memory connection is broken.

Driver loaded- HW ACCELERATION OFF - DONGLE

Locked HW ACCELERATION NOTCH 3 (SLIDE)

Why rows are no present once driver is loaded... driver is messed up as Hank stated.

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Loeschzwerg Senior Member Offline AAlchemy PSU maker :-) Posts: 396 Germany -> Bavaria -> Augsburg Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #82 - 28.06.13 at 12:00:15 Could you please do a comparison shot of 640x480 @60hz and 800x600 @60hz (windows display setting). Thx
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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #83 - 28.06.13 at 12:14:14

osckhar wrote on 28.06.13 at 11:18:54:

Why rows are no present once driver is loaded... driver is messed up as Hank stated.

Regards,
Oscar.

I think you have either a contact issue, a bad ram module or compatibility with the motherboard.

The ONLY time I had an issues with any rows on the screen was with the KT-133 or BX with USB on and driver loaded or the ASROCK BX motherboard where it would do it all the time.

Rampage is VERY picky about motherboards.

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Reply #84 - 28.06.13 at 13:26:36

@Dominik- yes, no problem. This night I will do a comparison.

@Gary- I have tried many motherboards in all motherboards but those vertical lines are present.

Seems my Rampy card comes with an old bios.

MICHEL'S BIOS DATED 07/12/2000

OSCAR'S BIOS DATED 05/12/2000

Gary's Rampage bios is dated 07/12/2000 as well. So, my bios is only 2 days old than yours.

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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #85 - 28.06.13 at 14:53:15 @Michael: In my opinion is the best decision in that case ! Good choice mate ! Lets hope that the card is running - I keep my finger crossed Osckhar: try to swap the bios on your card with the one from Michael card Do not flash you bios yet.
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Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700
Reply #86 - 28.06.13 at 15:18:41

m14radu wrote on 28.06.13 at 14:53:15:

@Michael: In my opinion is the best decision in that case !
Good choice mate !
Lets hope that the card is running - I keep my finger crossed

Osckhar: try to swap the bios on your card with the one from Michael card

Do not flash you bios yet.

Yes, Radu I already did it. I used my bios on Michel's card and vice versa with not changes.

Soon we will know if Michel's card is working.

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m14radu God Member Offline Take your chance ! Posts: 555 Timisoara, Romania Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #87 - 28.06.13 at 15:20:48 I keep my finger crossed Osckhar !
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osckhar God Member Offline www.3Dfx.es Posts: 812 SPAIN Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #88 - 28.06.13 at 16:27:27 m14radu wrote on 28.06.13 at 15:20:48: I keep my finger crossed Osckhar ! Thanks Radu! At the moment all perfect. I added 6 new balls rampage chip. Now little ultrasonic cleaner and ready for soldering the chip onto SPECTER card. Later pics. Regards, Oscar.
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osckhar God Member Offline www.3Dfx.es Posts: 812 SPAIN Gender:	Re: 3dfx Specter 1000 AGP TEST SOCKET Rev.A1 4700 Reply #89 - 28.06.13 at 16:52:57 Once added new balls rampage chip works perfect in my test socket specter card. Now ready to starts soldering chip. Nervous here! Regards, Oscar.
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