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Message started by TM30 on 27.08.05 at 19:09:50

Title: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by TM30 on 27.08.05 at 19:09:50
Today i got a boxed STB V3 2000 AGP

the PCB Date is 1100
It has 7NS MT (Micron) RAM

This is quite late for a V3 2000 AGP what do you think? I know the PCI cards are as late as this one but i never have had an STB V3 2000 AGP with such a late date... and i have many V3 2000 AGP at home ;D

edit: the card also has some other capacitors on it as all the other cards..

(V3 3500 i also have seen with this late PCB/Chip Date)

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by NitroX infinity on 27.08.05 at 19:55:13
I have a V3 3000 AGP which dates from week 15 of 2000. ;D

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by TM30 on 27.08.05 at 20:01:46
the one from STB?

does it also have other capacitors?

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by Lucidtomr on 31.08.05 at 09:28:52
hello TM30.  I have a STB voodoo 3 3000 AGP 16mb card.

These are AGP 2x, and they won't fit in the AGP 8x motherboards you see. It's like SDram and DDRram, the pin slots are off slightly.

Back then, during the Y2K crisis, AGP slots on motherboards were new, they just started to come out. The voodoo 3 was pretty new too then. People where switching from slower parts to faster parts, like EDO ram for faster SDram, and PCI for faster AGP cards. People were upgrading their motherboards for another reason besides the new AGP, it was for the new Pentium 3 processors that just came out too. Socket 7 was okay, but socket 370pin was the way to go if you wanted faster speed than 500Mhz slot 1 processors or socket 7 processors.

This technology may not be new, but it's not that old either. It was a medium/turning point.
Hope that answers your question. It is interesting to think about it, as I love classics, and I love the 3DFX graphics. I wish I knew about 3DFX when I was in highschool (1997-2000)

Back then I had a:
1998 Aser Spire 1812
Pentium 2MMX 233mhz upgraded to 500Mhz
LPX formfactore (power supplies for these are rare, maybe extinct.)
96mb EDO
1mb integraded video ATI Mach 64
1 PCI slot 2 ISA slots

^^still have my Acer along with a VA-503+ K6 233Mhz pc (mid tower baby at case) & Micron PC Pentium 1 90Mhz mobo based on Intel 824307FX / 82438 Triton chip set NLX formfactor baby at).

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by NitroX infinity on 31.08.05 at 13:38:33
I compared my 1500 with my 5199 and here are the differences.

Image is not of my own card btw, came from www.yjfy.com but looks like my 5199 card.

http://www.tweakers.net/ext/f/65631/thumb.jpg
(thumbnail)

1 = This chip is different, on my 1500 it says 'SST' and beneath that 'mpf' plus a bunch of numbers.
2 = These two chips are not on the 1500, instead there are two capacitors (correct name?) like number 3 but about a millimeter smaller in diameter.

Oh yeah, and the heatsink is different, no mounting holes on the 1500 :P But that doesn't seem important ;D

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 31.08.05 at 14:12:07
hehe my latest 3dfx/STB Voodoo3 is from week 17 year 2000.

it's a 3dfx Voodoo3 2000 PCI with 16MB SGRAM Rev.D 1700

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by TM30 on 31.08.05 at 17:03:53
so for now, how also has got late STB 2000 AGP ?

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by NitroX infinity on 31.08.05 at 17:08:27
BTW, what exactly do you mean with 'STB' Voodoo 3?
An STB PCB? Because I think all 3dfx V3's have an STB PCB.

Both my V3's do, anyway.

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by TM30 on 31.08.05 at 17:22:03
i mean cards that are made by 3dfx (STB)

so i want to exclude Powercolor and so on... cause powercolor cards have mostly a late PCB Date...

but i never saw a V3 2000 AGP by 3dfx with Year 2000 Date before...

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by gamma742 on 31.08.05 at 17:47:24

Quote:
^^still have my Acer along with a VA-503+ K6 233Mhz pc (mid tower baby at case)


I had one of these with a 350MHz, updated the BIOS and took it up to 550MHz. It used to be my V3 2000 machine reflashed with the 3000 V3 BIOS ;D

A lot of gaming done on that machine.

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 31.08.05 at 18:13:14
hehe well my Voodoo3 2000 PCI with SGRAM , it's PCB is light green and not dark green, I have 3 different models of the 2000 PCI :)

A 2000 PCI with SGRAM Rev.D 5399 from week 53 year 1999 [ 1999 was indeed a leap year!] with a little black square heatsink

A 2000 PCI with SGARM Rev.D 1700 from week 17 year 200 with a smally Aluminium coloured heatsink

A 3000 PCI with SGRAM Rev.D 0700 from week 07 year 2000 with the well known large Aluminium coloured Alu Heatsink which has been sighted on all 3dfx V3 AGP and PCI models.

And a 2000 PCI with SDRAM Rev.A 1799 from week 17 year 1999, it has the ole compaq PCB ;)

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by ALT-F13 on 01.09.05 at 03:08:15
My only STB V3-2000 AGP (just bought a week ago in Moscow;)) has 1200 PCB date.

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by Obi-Wan_Kenobi on 02.09.05 at 11:44:38
hmm week 12 year 2000 very nice :) so it's quite common that the SGRAM based Voodoo3 2000 & 3000 PCI's came later that thier SDRAM counterparts.

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by gdonovan on 02.09.05 at 12:44:46
Yes, if I remember right there were released later because 3dfx had no inital plans on releasing a PCI V3.

Market demand changed their minds.

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by ALT-F13 on 03.09.05 at 00:18:15
Looks like I'm lucky with late boards ;) I checked my STB V3-3000 SGRAM PCI and found it to be 21th week of 2000...

Not to mention Powercolor V3 PCI Ver 2.0 with 4th week of 2001... :-P

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by Lucidtomr on 03.09.05 at 02:31:50
NitroX infinity that thumb picture looks exactly like my STB Voodoo 3 3000 agp. I have a webcam and can take a picture of mine if you'd like to see it in closer detail.

I recently found out that my STB voodoo 3 3000 agp came from a Dell XPS system. It has a sticker that says 'Dell voodoo 3 1.10e'
I found the drivers for it on Dell's official site, which was hard to find the drivers for it (on dells site) BTW.

Dells drivers are not as new as the ones FalconFly hosts. Dells were like 4.0.17 or something like that.

Has anyone here use voodoo 3 drivers that were for say powercolor or creative for an STB or vice versa? Any problems?

What's with this talk about PCB? I don't know what it means or what you guys are talking about. It's like NetJargon or something
[edit]mist typed number[/edit]

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by NitroX infinity on 03.09.05 at 12:35:58
Lucidtomr; a thumbnail is a smaller image of a large version and it links to that large version, click on it to see the bigger one ;D

Also, Creative didn't do V3's.

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by Lucidtomr on 05.09.05 at 13:45:31

wrote on 03.09.05 at 12:35:58:
Also, Creative didn't do V3's.


Really? I'm pretty sure they where the last Video Card makers to still have Voodoo 3 drivers downloadable from their site. Or atleast 2 years ago they were still up and running. STB's site is gone, history. I know Creative definatly made Voodoo's, 3D Blaster Voodoo 2, A Voodoo Bansheee video card, Well not all of them are listed on my Microsoft chit sheet, like on the STB manufactor part, doesn't list Voodoo 3 but they made them, ex. my Voodoo 3 3000 agp not listed. STB Black Magic 3D voodoo 2, Nitro FX Voodoo Banshee.....

Strange thou, because I thought 3DFX bought STB after making Voodoo 2's, like around 1999 or so. Sad how a great video card maker could go down the tubes :'( . 3DFX seemed like it was ahead of it's time, like how in 1993 Germans IBM scientist were able to teleport light through cables, and back in the early 1990's Artificial Inteligance was like science fiction.

Well, anyways, I think I'll snag a shot of my video card, yahoo can host pictures right? Maybe I'll link it that way

Title: Re: Late V3 2000 AGP?
Post by gdonovan on 05.09.05 at 14:37:34
Creative never sold V3's, just V2 and Banshee (from 3dfx)


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